Comments on: Let’s Debate the Heresies of the Washington Thinktanks http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:54:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Perry http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75050 Perry Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75050 <p>Think tanks are private organizations. They can do whatever they want. They are not subject to the rules of political lobbies.</p> <p>There are many think tanks that are critical of Israel. </p> <p>It's too bad for the violent, troubled "Arab Street" that there are 150+ million American Jews and Christians whose interest is the security of Israel. Get used to it. Most Americans are not anti-Israel like you.</p> Think tanks are private organizations. They can do whatever they want. They are not subject to the rules of political lobbies.

There are many think tanks that are critical of Israel.

It's too bad for the violent, troubled "Arab Street" that there are 150+ million American Jews and Christians whose interest is the security of Israel. Get used to it. Most Americans are not anti-Israel like you.

]]> By: Michael Gold http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75051 Michael Gold Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75051 <p>When I heard that Martin Indyk, a citizen of Australia and AIPAC staffer, was being named ambassador to Israel, I actually thought my informant said "ambassador from Israel."<br /> Indyk went from AIPAC to Asst Secy of State to Ambassador. Not bad for a guy who received his citizenship by special act of Congress 24 hours before receiving a top job at the Clinton State Department.<br /> The US "peace team" at Camp David in 2000 consisted of Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Aaron Miller and Robert Malley. All Jews and Zionists except for Malley who is Jewish but a critic of Israel. <br /> Imagine if there was an Arab American on the US delegation negotiating peace. But there weren't. All Jews. Honest brokers! Yeah, right.</p> When I heard that Martin Indyk, a citizen of Australia and AIPAC staffer, was being named ambassador to Israel, I actually thought my informant said "ambassador from Israel."
Indyk went from AIPAC to Asst Secy of State to Ambassador. Not bad for a guy who received his citizenship by special act of Congress 24 hours before receiving a top job at the Clinton State Department.
The US "peace team" at Camp David in 2000 consisted of Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Aaron Miller and Robert Malley. All Jews and Zionists except for Malley who is Jewish but a critic of Israel.
Imagine if there was an Arab American on the US delegation negotiating peace. But there weren't. All Jews. Honest brokers! Yeah, right.

]]> By: Brey http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75052 Brey Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75052 <p>Actually, the US delegation consisted of the following indiviuals:</p> <p>Bill Clinton<br /> Secretary Madeleine Albright<br /> John Podesta, Chief of Staff<br /> Samuel Berger, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs<br /> Joe Lockhart, Assistant to the President and Press Secretary<br /> Maria Echaveste, Deputy Chief of Staff<br /> Dennis Ross, Special Middle East Coordinator<br /> Martin Indyk, U.S. Ambassador to Israel<br /> John Herbst, U.S. Consul General, Jerusalem<br /> Bruce Riedel, Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs, NSC<br /> Aaron Miller, Deputy Special Middle East Coordinator, Department of State<br /> Rob Malley, Special Assistant to the President for Arab-Israeli Affairs and Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs, NSC<br /> Jonathan Schwartz, Deputy Legal Adviser, Department of State<br /> Toni Verstandig, Deputy Assistant Secretary, Near Eastern Affairs, Department of State<br /> Gemal Helal, Senior Advisor, Department of State</p> Actually, the US delegation consisted of the following indiviuals:

Bill Clinton
Secretary Madeleine Albright
John Podesta, Chief of Staff
Samuel Berger, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs
Joe Lockhart, Assistant to the President and Press Secretary
Maria Echaveste, Deputy Chief of Staff
Dennis Ross, Special Middle East Coordinator
Martin Indyk, U.S. Ambassador to Israel
John Herbst, U.S. Consul General, Jerusalem
Bruce Riedel, Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs, NSC
Aaron Miller, Deputy Special Middle East Coordinator, Department of State
Rob Malley, Special Assistant to the President for Arab-Israeli Affairs and Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs, NSC
Jonathan Schwartz, Deputy Legal Adviser, Department of State
Toni Verstandig, Deputy Assistant Secretary, Near Eastern Affairs, Department of State
Gemal Helal, Senior Advisor, Department of State

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75053 Rowan Berkeley Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75053 <p>I think there is enough meat in the above that it should have appeared as a magazine or newspaper op-ed article, not a blog entry. In other words, Phil, relative to the weight of your writing, you are getting marginalised. Of course, if you weren't, it would disprove the basic argument about Jewish media domination, that you, I, Walt, Mearsheimer, Uncle Tom Cobbley, and Mrs Cobbley are all making all over the world now, except in the US mainstream media.</p> I think there is enough meat in the above that it should have appeared as a magazine or newspaper op-ed article, not a blog entry. In other words, Phil, relative to the weight of your writing, you are getting marginalised. Of course, if you weren't, it would disprove the basic argument about Jewish media domination, that you, I, Walt, Mearsheimer, Uncle Tom Cobbley, and Mrs Cobbley are all making all over the world now, except in the US mainstream media.

]]> By: J. Weisbrot http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75054 J. Weisbrot Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75054 <p>Mr. Weiss-</p> <p>Your insight and fortitude is commendable. Thanks for being an honest, forthright observer of the capture of the US foreign policy and the absolute capitulation of the corrupt elected officials. Don't forget to turn your sights on the key partner in this operation- the US media- which were a necessary (if not sufficient component) of this takeover.</p> <p>Best,</p> <p>J. Weisbrot</p> Mr. Weiss-

Your insight and fortitude is commendable. Thanks for being an honest, forthright observer of the capture of the US foreign policy and the absolute capitulation of the corrupt elected officials. Don't forget to turn your sights on the key partner in this operation- the US media- which were a necessary (if not sufficient component) of this takeover.

Best,

J. Weisbrot

]]> By: mel gibson http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75055 mel gibson Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75055 <p>keep up the good work little philly. in an age of worldwide media domination it is refreshing to find a christkiller who will admit to who is really behind all the wars in the world. <br /> your friend,<br /> mel<br /> p.s. dad digs the column too!</p> keep up the good work little philly. in an age of worldwide media domination it is refreshing to find a christkiller who will admit to who is really behind all the wars in the world.
your friend,
mel
p.s. dad digs the column too!

]]> By: Robert http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75056 Robert Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75056 <p>Phil, how many tabs of acid are your going to take before the debate?</p> <p>The joke is on The Observer.</p> Phil, how many tabs of acid are your going to take before the debate?

The joke is on The Observer.

]]> By: B. Netanyahu http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75057 B. Netanyahu Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75057 <p>Dear Mr. Weiss:</p> <p>We thank you for the recognition. But we certainly want to make sure you give props to the players behind the new US hegemony:</p> <p><a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/</a></p> <p>"Further, the process of transformation,<br /> even if it brings revolutionary change, is<br /> likely to be a long one, absent some<br /> catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a<br /> new Pearl Harbor."</p> <p>PNAC, baby. Just remember, <br /> we're all Israelis now- and<br /> as I said sometime ago, <br /> 9/11 is a good thing for <br /> Israel. </p> <p>Hey Phil- what's that plane<br /> doing flying into your<br /> window!?!?!</p> <p>Made ya look- just kiddin. <br /> Maybe. We're watching you,<br /> boychik.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>Benjamin</p> Dear Mr. Weiss:

We thank you for the recognition. But we certainly want to make sure you give props to the players behind the new US hegemony:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor."

PNAC, baby. Just remember,
we're all Israelis now- and
as I said sometime ago,
9/11 is a good thing for
Israel.

Hey Phil- what's that plane
doing flying into your
window!?!?!

Made ya look- just kiddin.
Maybe. We're watching you,
boychik.

Regards,

Benjamin

]]> By: Lilli Genscher http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75058 Lilli Genscher Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75058 <p>No one denies that AIPAC lobbied for war on Iraq. They did so to benefit Israel because that is what AIPAC does -- lobbies for Israel. THey lobbied for this war even though Israel is a nuclear power and should be able to handle its own defense. </p> <p> Apparently, AIPAC thought it preferable to have Americans die for Israel rather than to have Israeli soldiers die for Israel.<p> <p>Why is that? </p></p></p> No one denies that AIPAC lobbied for war on Iraq. They did so to benefit Israel because that is what AIPAC does — lobbies for Israel. THey lobbied for this war even though Israel is a nuclear power and should be able to handle its own defense.

Apparently, AIPAC thought it preferable to have Americans die for Israel rather than to have Israeli soldiers die for Israel.

Why is that?

]]> By: fred lapides http://mondoweiss.net/2006/09/lets_debate_the.html/comment-page-1#comment-75059 fred lapides Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2006/09/27/lets_debate_the.html#comment-75059 <p>If Israel controls American policy as is inmplied and stated, why is it that Isarel stopped the war in Lebvanon when told to do so by the US, and did not attack HeZbollah until granted permission by the US? Time and again, Israelil policy is controlled mainly out of Washington and not the other way around, as the anti-Israelil forces suggest .</p> If Israel controls American policy as is inmplied and stated, why is it that Isarel stopped the war in Lebvanon when told to do so by the US, and did not attack HeZbollah until granted permission by the US? Time and again, Israelil policy is controlled mainly out of Washington and not the other way around, as the anti-Israelil forces suggest .

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