The Suicide Question Re Corey Lidle

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I’m surprised that everyone covering Corey Lidle’s death has avoided the psychological question: Was depression or suicidal feeling a factor in the crash?

Let’s go to the videotape: in his last appearance in the public eye, just four days before his death, Saturday October 7, Corey Lidle came into the Yankees’ most important game of the season in the third inning. The Yankees were losing the game, 4-0, and Lidle then closed the door in the third and fourth, but couldn’t get an out in the 5th; he gave up three runs. When he was lifted, the Yankees were down 7-0. Yes, Jaret Wright lost the game; but Lidle put it out of reach. The Yankees departed the postseason, 8-3.

I’m blanking on his name, but at least one MLB pitcher who screwed up committed suicide in the off-season. Athletes in other sports have, too.

I don’t mind Katie Couric oozing a widow’s sympathy last night when she asked her reporter, “And what about his family?” But I’d like to hear some other questions: How did Corey Lidle respond to his dramatic failure on Saturday? Did he hold himself responsible for the Yankees’ demise? How fit was he to get in behind the controls?

12 Responses

  1. thewiseking
    October 12, 2006, 1:03 pm

    Phil; please stay away from sports commentary. The yankees demise had everything to do with a roster of non-performing superstars like A-Rod and Sheff, and abject failures on the starting mound like Mussina and Johnson. The yanks failure was not about mediocre set-up pitchers. Of note the only hint as to Lidles' emotional state after losing was his tendency (common to the new roster of loser over-paid yankees) to blame failure on management. These yankees are not suicidal about losing, they honestly dont seem to give a shit.
    GO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. lookingloo
    October 12, 2006, 3:22 pm

    If you're going to make unsubstantiated, wild claims, at least spell his name correctly, douchebag.

  3. looie
    October 12, 2006, 3:31 pm

    "I'm blanking on his name, but at least one MLB pitcher who screwed up committed suicide in the off-season."

    Are you the only journalist that doesn't know how to use google?

    Spare us.

  4. KarenProctor
    October 12, 2006, 4:24 pm

    I imagine he's referring to Donnie Moore, once of the California Angels, who committed suicide at least ten years after giving up a huge playoff home run to Dave Henderson of the Red Sox. The HR may have been attributable, but he had some other issues, too.

    Is this guy really a journalist? Sheesh.

  5. thewiseking
    October 12, 2006, 4:40 pm

    Lidle had this to say regarding the Yankee post-series meltdown; Lidle questioned how ready the Yankees were for the postseason, citing the fact that they clinched early and may have gone into "cruise control" over the final week or two of the regular season.

    "I think we got taken by surprise, got matched up with a team that was a little more ready to play than we were," Lidle said. "We were all pretty surprised how not ready we were for that series. I don't think we took the Tigers for granted. I just think they were up for it more than we were."
    I don't think the DSM-IV would classify any of this as suicidal ideation.

  6. Eric
    October 12, 2006, 4:52 pm

    You really don't know anything about professional athletes or baseball do you?

    The Yankees got spanked 8-3 in Game 4 with two runs coming in garbage time in the bottom of the ninth.

    Certainly no professional athlete would be able to survive in baseball as long as Lidle without incident if you're willing to put him up as possibly suicidal for entering a game down four runs and surrending three runs in a middle relief appearance for a team with a $200 million payroll and an All-Star at every single position.

    "I'm blanking on his name, but at least one MLB pitcher who screwed up committed suicide in the off-season. Athletes in other sports have, too."

    Right. Nice use of "at least" and "too" to cloud the fact that a) you don't know the pitcher who committed suicide; b) you can't bother to look it up on the internet; c) you can't bother to investigate the circumstances of the pitcher's death; d) you can't bother to research or list these supposed other professional athletes who committed suicide as a direct result of a single poor athletic performance.

    This post is worse than a wildly intoxicated man pontificating at a bar.

  7. Poopie
    October 12, 2006, 5:35 pm

    Jared Kushner and Peter Kaplan:

    Here's some free advice- Send Weiss and his wife, Judt and his wife and kids to a Mets game.

    The diarrhea that Weiss will post should create enough commentary to to make The Observer the most "popular" blog in the City.

  8. KR
    October 12, 2006, 7:55 pm

    One wonders, what if Bengals linebacker TJ Houshmandzadeh had just lost a playoff game then flew his airplane into a downtown NY building.

    Headlines like "terrorist suicide event", "arab decedent in suicide attack", etc would be more likely. Journalists braving tough questions like "What's wrong with those Arabs?" "He was Christian, but given his ancestry, does anyone doubt his sympathy with his muslim brothers across the sea?"

  9. Richard
    October 13, 2006, 8:34 am


    Please, stick to commenting about the lobby so your critics can make fools of themselves, instead of the other way around.

  10. Jim
    October 13, 2006, 9:31 am

    It seems to me that suicide is a very plausable reason for the Lidle plane crash!An eyewitness/pilot stated that the Cirrus was in coordinated flight up to the moment of impact.

  11. Altered Ego
    October 13, 2006, 8:01 pm

    Probably the most irresponsible blog post I've read in ages. You my friend, are the reason bloggers have so much trouble gaining acceptance from the mainstream media.

    I can't comment on whether or not Cory Lidle was depressed, but certainly he had no reason to be depressed over the baseball season. First all, he just pulled down a nice $6 million dollars (not to mention the playoff share he received from the Yanks). And if you watched any of the games, you'd know that you'd have to get pretty far down on the roster before you blamed Lidle for the loss to the Tigers.

    Lastly, the comparisons to Donnie Moore are also off-base. Moore killed himself about three years after he gave up that Henderson HR in 86, not a week later.

  12. billy bobby
    February 26, 2007, 2:07 pm

    he didnt committ suicide stupid people he just crashed his plane stupid lil noobs

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