Comments on: Journalists Refuse to Weigh Neocons’ Own Statements of Israel-Centered Foreign Policy http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 20:37:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72510 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72510 <p>"One major factor that drew [the first-generation neo-cons] inexorably to the right was their attachment to Israel and their growing frustration during the 1960s with a Democratic party that was becoming increasingly opposed to American military preparedness and increasingly enamored of Third World causes [e.g., Palestinian rights]. In the Reaganite right's hard-line anti-communism, commitment to American military strength, and willingness to intervene politically and militarily in the affairs of other nations to promote democratic values (and American interests), neocons found a political movement that would guarantee Israel's security." (Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace (1993), p. 231)</p> <p>"I’ve always thought it was best for Israel for the U.S. to be generally engaged and generally strong, and then the commitment to Israel follows from a general foreign policy." (William Kristol to the Jerusalem Post, July 27, 2000)</p> "One major factor that drew [the first-generation neo-cons] inexorably to the right was their attachment to Israel and their growing frustration during the 1960s with a Democratic party that was becoming increasingly opposed to American military preparedness and increasingly enamored of Third World causes [e.g., Palestinian rights]. In the Reaganite right's hard-line anti-communism, commitment to American military strength, and willingness to intervene politically and militarily in the affairs of other nations to promote democratic values (and American interests), neocons found a political movement that would guarantee Israel's security." (Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace (1993), p. 231)

"I’ve always thought it was best for Israel for the U.S. to be generally engaged and generally strong, and then the commitment to Israel follows from a general foreign policy." (William Kristol to the Jerusalem Post, July 27, 2000)

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72511 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72511 <p>Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil, nor of inter-Arab civil conflicts.</p> Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil, nor of inter-Arab civil conflicts.

]]> By: Klaus Bloemker http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72512 Klaus Bloemker Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72512 <p>"Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil"<br /> ------------------------------------------<br /> Yes, but the Israel lobby is the cause of the statement - by John Kerry before the last presidential election - "Israel's cause is America's cause." And this is not just a statement.<br /> I was wondering at the time: How the hell is Kerry going to solve the Palestinian conflict?</p> <p>Klaus<br /> </p> "Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil"
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Yes, but the Israel lobby is the cause of the statement – by John Kerry before the last presidential election – "Israel's cause is America's cause." And this is not just a statement.
I was wondering at the time: How the hell is Kerry going to solve the Palestinian conflict?

Klaus

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72513 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72513 <p>"Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil."</p> <p>Yes, but the Israel lobby is the cause of a situation where the countries with oil have been made our enemies, and the country with nothing to offer is our only ally.</p> "Israel is not the cause of US dependance on oil."

Yes, but the Israel lobby is the cause of a situation where the countries with oil have been made our enemies, and the country with nothing to offer is our only ally.

]]> By: Klaus Bloemker http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72514 Klaus Bloemker Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72514 <p>"the country with nothing (but problems - my comment)<br /> to offer is our only ally."<br /> _______________________________________</p> <p>That hits the nail on the head!</p> "the country with nothing (but problems – my comment)
to offer is our only ally."
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That hits the nail on the head!

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72515 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72515 <p>Where is the better analysis?</p> <p>I hear complaint, but not proposal.</p> Where is the better analysis?

I hear complaint, but not proposal.

]]> By: Klaus Bloemker http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72516 Klaus Bloemker Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72516 <p>No proposal?<br /> __________________</p> <p>The proposal could be: Tell the Israeli Jews to go back to where they came from - their country of origin and citizenship, be it Russia or Argentina. Most Israeli Jews still have a citzenship (or are entiteled to) of a country of their (or their parents/grandparents) origin/birth. </p> No proposal?
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The proposal could be: Tell the Israeli Jews to go back to where they came from – their country of origin and citizenship, be it Russia or Argentina. Most Israeli Jews still have a citzenship (or are entiteled to) of a country of their (or their parents/grandparents) origin/birth.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72517 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72517 <p>The majority of Israelis were born in Israel.</p> <p>That is the country of their birth.</p> The majority of Israelis were born in Israel.

That is the country of their birth.

]]> By: Gene Machina http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72518 Gene Machina Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72518 <p>To Richard Witty:</p> <p>I've been curious for a long time. I occasionally see remarks in the Israeli press along the lines of, "If things get any worse we'll emigrate to America." </p> <p>My question: Would you happen to know how hard is it for an Israeli to emigrate to America? Does he have to follow the same rules as would a Pole or an Italian? Or are there special and/or expedited rules for Israelis?</p> To Richard Witty:

I've been curious for a long time. I occasionally see remarks in the Israeli press along the lines of, "If things get any worse we'll emigrate to America."

My question: Would you happen to know how hard is it for an Israeli to emigrate to America? Does he have to follow the same rules as would a Pole or an Italian? Or are there special and/or expedited rules for Israelis?

]]> By: David http://mondoweiss.net/2007/04/norman_podhoret.html/comment-page-1#comment-72519 David Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/04/24/norman_podhoret.html#comment-72519 <p>Almost every "aliyah-ist" elects to keep his old U.S. citizenship alongside his new one. I've seen the figure of 600,000 for the number of dual-citizenship Israelis who are now living in the U.S. It's not easy to get this number (for obvious reasons).</p> <p>I'm not sure what the annual immigration quota is for non-U.S.-passport-holding Israelis. But I think we can assume it's pretty generous. :)</p> Almost every "aliyah-ist" elects to keep his old U.S. citizenship alongside his new one. I've seen the figure of 600,000 for the number of dual-citizenship Israelis who are now living in the U.S. It's not easy to get this number (for obvious reasons).

I'm not sure what the annual immigration quota is for non-U.S.-passport-holding Israelis. But I think we can assume it's pretty generous. :)

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