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		<title>By: Cannes</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71177</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gee Phil. Guess Glenn is just a big puss, huh? Only real men are inclined towards conspiracies and seek to paint everyone with the same brush.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way, I have it on good word that John Yoo and Alberto Gonzalez converted to judaism before taking their positions in Bushco. In fact, it is apparently now a requirement.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Phil. Guess Glenn is just a big puss, huh? Only real men are inclined towards conspiracies and seek to paint everyone with the same brush.</p>
<p>By the way, I have it on good word that John Yoo and Alberto Gonzalez converted to judaism before taking their positions in Bushco. In fact, it is apparently now a requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71178</link>
		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cannes, you might have enjoyed your comment, which does not make it less empty.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have watched this before, it is the same game again and again. The real good critiques - America needs now - are blamed for not going to far.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good you are around Glenn. And next time you debate someone via video, don&#039;t worry. It&#039;s all in your head only. [I hope you know what I mean?]&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannes, you might have enjoyed your comment, which does not make it less empty.</p>
<p>I have watched this before, it is the same game again and again. The real good critiques &#8211; America needs now &#8211; are blamed for not going to far.</p>
<p>Good you are around Glenn. And next time you debate someone via video, don&#39;t worry. It&#39;s all in your head only. [I hope you know what I mean?]</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71179</link>
		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;typical me!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;not too far - not far enough into the direction wanted. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typical me!</p>
<p>not too far &#8211; not far enough into the direction wanted. </p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71180</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The fact is that I do not think that Judaism as a religion is anywhere near the influence it is for neocons as Christian theology is for Bush&#039;s Christian evangelical base that believes in Middle Eastern militarism for theological reasons...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Absolutely -- Judaism as a religion is not a major factor in the way that some evangelical interpretations of Christianity are... but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#039;s an important distinction to remember. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The fact is that I do not think that Judaism as a religion is anywhere near the influence it is for neocons as Christian theology is for Bush&#39;s Christian evangelical base that believes in Middle Eastern militarism for theological reasons&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Absolutely &#8212; Judaism as a religion is not a major factor in the way that some evangelical interpretations of Christianity are&#8230; but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#39;s an important distinction to remember. </p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71181</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The fact is that I do not think that Judaism as a religion is anywhere near the influence it is for neocons as Christian theology is for Bush&#039;s Christian evangelical base that believes in Middle Eastern militarism for theological reasons...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Absolutely -- Judaism as a religion is not a major factor in the way that some evangelical interpretations of Christianity are... but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#039;s an important distinction to remember. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The fact is that I do not think that Judaism as a religion is anywhere near the influence it is for neocons as Christian theology is for Bush&#39;s Christian evangelical base that believes in Middle Eastern militarism for theological reasons&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Absolutely &#8212; Judaism as a religion is not a major factor in the way that some evangelical interpretations of Christianity are&#8230; but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#39;s an important distinction to remember. </p>
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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71182</link>
		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a danger that this blog turn into some sort of &quot;flypaper&quot; for conspiracy lovers of every stripe. One of the saddest and most curious things about the whole neocon business is how it recalls classic antisemite conspiracies. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All that has really happened in fact, is that the American political system is eminently gameable and is being constantly gamed by all in sundry... It is the &quot;kalpavriksha&quot; or wish fulfilling tree of the Hindu mythology where any group of highly focused, well organized and well funded con men without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude can get anything they want. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The difference here is that the Middle East is &quot;The Witch in the Wardrobe&quot; a closet opening on a Narnia/hell... and instead of leading us, as others have, to a crippled health care system, despoiled nature or a country floating in firearms, the neocons and AIPAC have led us to a geopolitical catastrophe of historic dimensions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only uniquely Jewish stereotype that I really can see at play here is the one about the Jews&#039; terrible and eternal bad luck. &lt;br /&gt;
http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a danger that this blog turn into some sort of &quot;flypaper&quot; for conspiracy lovers of every stripe. One of the saddest and most curious things about the whole neocon business is how it recalls classic antisemite conspiracies. </p>
<p>All that has really happened in fact, is that the American political system is eminently gameable and is being constantly gamed by all in sundry&#8230; It is the &quot;kalpavriksha&quot; or wish fulfilling tree of the Hindu mythology where any group of highly focused, well organized and well funded con men without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude can get anything they want. </p>
<p>The difference here is that the Middle East is &quot;The Witch in the Wardrobe&quot; a closet opening on a Narnia/hell&#8230; and instead of leading us, as others have, to a crippled health care system, despoiled nature or a country floating in firearms, the neocons and AIPAC have led us to a geopolitical catastrophe of historic dimensions.</p>
<p>The only uniquely Jewish stereotype that I really can see at play here is the one about the Jews&#39; terrible and eternal bad luck. <br />
<a href="http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/br">link to seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com</a><br /> /></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71183</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leander sez &quot;but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#039;s an important distinction to remember.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gee, Leander, thanks again for such banalities uttered as profundities. Besides the silly tautology (ya might as well say &quot;what brings Jews to support Israel is their desire to support Israel&quot; duhhh, isn&#039;t that what Zionism is?) what makes you or that banal statement the authoritative view on what makes &quot;American Jews coalesce&quot; about Isreal or anything? No doubt, you and the rest of the closet &quot;neocon&#039;ism is a Jewish conspiracy&quot; wankers would explain that you are doing &quot;the Jews&quot; a kindness by making the &quot;important distinction&quot; between Judaism and Zionism (gosh youre so insightful!), so when the iron boot comes out, you can happily wash your hands of it all by proclaiming how you were merely opposed to Zionism, not Jews, and in your brilliance, you had, on many a blog, pointed out this &quot;important distinction.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Of course, no one will believe you then, just as no one believes you now, just as no one believed your spiritual forebears in your fatherland when they made their lame excuses.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leander sez &quot;but what brings American Jews to coalesce in their support for Israel is Zionism, not Judaism. It&#39;s an important distinction to remember.&quot;</p>
<p>Gee, Leander, thanks again for such banalities uttered as profundities. Besides the silly tautology (ya might as well say &quot;what brings Jews to support Israel is their desire to support Israel&quot; duhhh, isn&#39;t that what Zionism is?) what makes you or that banal statement the authoritative view on what makes &quot;American Jews coalesce&quot; about Isreal or anything? No doubt, you and the rest of the closet &quot;neocon&#39;ism is a Jewish conspiracy&quot; wankers would explain that you are doing &quot;the Jews&quot; a kindness by making the &quot;important distinction&quot; between Judaism and Zionism (gosh youre so insightful!), so when the iron boot comes out, you can happily wash your hands of it all by proclaiming how you were merely opposed to Zionism, not Jews, and in your brilliance, you had, on many a blog, pointed out this &quot;important distinction.&quot; <br />
Of course, no one will believe you then, just as no one believes you now, just as no one believed your spiritual forebears in your fatherland when they made their lame excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: liberal white boy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71184</link>
		<dc:creator>liberal white boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I have been as willing as anyone else to raise and discuss the topic of the &lt;br /&gt;
neocons&#039; allegiance to Israel and the role it plays in their advocacy.  In &lt;br /&gt;
light of that, I would hope you would consider the possibility that there &lt;br /&gt;
may be other explanations besides &quot;fear&quot; and &quot;taboos&quot; as to why I don&#039;t &lt;br /&gt;
describe these issues exactly the way you would like.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes Mr. Weiss, like the possibility that his career may advance. He&#039;s not afraid he&#039;s just looking to make it to the big leagues. There is a difference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A very sad commentary and not much to hang your hat on Mr. Greenwald. (As willing as anyone?) Given the fact that MSM for 40 years has virtually ignored the oppression of the Palestinian people. The theft of their land and water. Their targeted assasination. Their torture and imprisonment. Their humiliation at check points. Their lack of a vote or a nation to call their own. The great wall of Israel. I would sure hate it if those in this country who now regard Israel as their religion, primarily because of their genetic materials(as opposed to silly religious beliefs)are offended that I and others are finally noticing the lack of reporting on some of these and other issues. It sort of looks like a coordinated effort. Call it AIPAC, Jinsa ,MSNBC or call it a cabal. The problem is you don&#039;t want to call it anything. You want to ignore it, to the peril of America.  (Yes, that includes all of us)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I have been as willing as anyone else to raise and discuss the topic of the <br />
neocons&#39; allegiance to Israel and the role it plays in their advocacy.  In <br />
light of that, I would hope you would consider the possibility that there <br />
may be other explanations besides &quot;fear&quot; and &quot;taboos&quot; as to why I don&#39;t <br />
describe these issues exactly the way you would like.&quot;</p>
<p>Yes Mr. Weiss, like the possibility that his career may advance. He&#39;s not afraid he&#39;s just looking to make it to the big leagues. There is a difference.</p>
<p>A very sad commentary and not much to hang your hat on Mr. Greenwald. (As willing as anyone?) Given the fact that MSM for 40 years has virtually ignored the oppression of the Palestinian people. The theft of their land and water. Their targeted assasination. Their torture and imprisonment. Their humiliation at check points. Their lack of a vote or a nation to call their own. The great wall of Israel. I would sure hate it if those in this country who now regard Israel as their religion, primarily because of their genetic materials(as opposed to silly religious beliefs)are offended that I and others are finally noticing the lack of reporting on some of these and other issues. It sort of looks like a coordinated effort. Call it AIPAC, Jinsa ,MSNBC or call it a cabal. The problem is you don&#39;t want to call it anything. You want to ignore it, to the peril of America.  (Yes, that includes all of us)</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71185</link>
		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whom are you talking to Mickey?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But feel free to attack me for whatever is on your mind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you feel better now????&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a capital &quot;N&quot; by the way. I insist!!!&lt;br /&gt;
And I am very pleased it works here;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LeaNder&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whom are you talking to Mickey?</p>
<p>But feel free to attack me for whatever is on your mind.</p>
<p>Do you feel better now????</p>
<p>It&#39;s a capital &quot;N&quot; by the way. I insist!!!<br />
And I am very pleased it works here;-)</p>
<p>LeaNder</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/07/glenn-greenwald.html/comment-page-1#comment-71186</link>
		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Something else for mickey:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The German Axis of the Good - I call them the German Neocon Axis - would, as you seem to, say that I - as a self-defined liberal - am a straight line descendant of the Nazis. Now my family and/or real ancestors do not much matter in this political game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is my favorite among them:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.achgut.com/dadgdx/index.php/dadgd/article/benjamin_weinthal_musterjuden_machen_mobil/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now to complicate things even a bit more, I often like his writings in the field of culture or arts and/or about Israel or German survivors; I simply strongly disagree with him concerning politics.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would you have thought, you could ever agree with a neocon? You just have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The world is full of wonder &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;leaNder is fine too, simply not leander.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else for mickey:</p>
<p>The German Axis of the Good &#8211; I call them the German Neocon Axis &#8211; would, as you seem to, say that I &#8211; as a self-defined liberal &#8211; am a straight line descendant of the Nazis. Now my family and/or real ancestors do not much matter in this political game.</p>
<p>This is my favorite among them:</p>
<p>http://www.achgut.com/dadgdx/index.php/dadgd/article/benjamin_weinthal_musterjuden_machen_mobil/</p>
<p>Now to complicate things even a bit more, I often like his writings in the field of culture or arts and/or about Israel or German survivors; I simply strongly disagree with him concerning politics.</p>
<p>Would you have thought, you could ever agree with a neocon? You just have.</p>
<p>The world is full of wonder </p>
<p>leaNder is fine too, simply not leander.</p>
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