Comments on: Anticipating Walt and Mearsheimer http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 20:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: Joachim Martillo http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71044 Joachim Martillo Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71044 <p>Schoenfeld is completely delusional to believe that Professor Walt is either anti-Semitic or would write anti-Semitic articles and books.</p> Schoenfeld is completely delusional to believe that Professor Walt is either anti-Semitic or would write anti-Semitic articles and books.

]]> By: Alex Chaihorsky http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71045 Alex Chaihorsky Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71045 <p>Cant wait. This will be a great test for American elite on its ability to take their own country's interests seriously.<br /> </p> Cant wait. This will be a great test for American elite on its ability to take their own country's interests seriously.

]]> By: Denis Drew http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71046 Denis Drew Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71046 <p>"further the march of this brand of thinly veiled anti-Semitism"</p> <p>The truth is that Israel only gets away with persecuting Palestinians because it is populated by white, middle class, English speaking types who are screwing over poor, darker-skinned Mideasterners -- that is the only genuine racial component at work.</p> "further the march of this brand of thinly veiled anti-Semitism"

The truth is that Israel only gets away with persecuting Palestinians because it is populated by white, middle class, English speaking types who are screwing over poor, darker-skinned Mideasterners — that is the only genuine racial component at work.

]]> By: lester http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71047 lester Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71047 <p>How un american for someone to be "worried" about a book. forget the issue of zionism, american jews really need to ditch the entire israeli outlook on things. I was just reading an article at jewcy.com about the ADL's aquiesscing however you spell it to turkey in regards to the genocide of armenians. some of the comments were really strange. like "of course there was a genocide but of course we shouldn't ackowledge because of politics and ..." so on. this is a very short term, very dishonorable way to think. but alot of the comments were very thoughtful/ respectful of armenians</p> How un american for someone to be "worried" about a book. forget the issue of zionism, american jews really need to ditch the entire israeli outlook on things. I was just reading an article at jewcy.com about the ADL's aquiesscing however you spell it to turkey in regards to the genocide of armenians. some of the comments were really strange. like "of course there was a genocide but of course we shouldn't ackowledge because of politics and …" so on. this is a very short term, very dishonorable way to think. but alot of the comments were very thoughtful/ respectful of armenians

]]> By: bill Pearlman http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71048 bill Pearlman Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71048 <p>Boy Lester, your a regular reader of Jewish web sites, jewcy for the love of God. You must live a real thrilling life. Dennis, if you ever actually went to Israel you would see that better than half the population is sephardic, and pretty dark skinned. Not to mention 50,000 Ethiopian Jews who are pretty black. Alex, I haven't fforgot about you. I'm going to get in touch with the NY Board of Rabbis next week and see what's involved in this. Get your parents ketubah ready because I would really like to check the pronvenance of any proof you supply.</p> Boy Lester, your a regular reader of Jewish web sites, jewcy for the love of God. You must live a real thrilling life. Dennis, if you ever actually went to Israel you would see that better than half the population is sephardic, and pretty dark skinned. Not to mention 50,000 Ethiopian Jews who are pretty black. Alex, I haven't fforgot about you. I'm going to get in touch with the NY Board of Rabbis next week and see what's involved in this. Get your parents ketubah ready because I would really like to check the pronvenance of any proof you supply.

]]> By: LanceThruster http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71049 LanceThruster Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71049 <p>I remember seeing a picture of a classroom of newly arrived Ethiopian Jews. Lots of smiling faces but pretty much segregated. I was wondering if at some point they are integrated with the general population or largely kept apart.</p> I remember seeing a picture of a classroom of newly arrived Ethiopian Jews. Lots of smiling faces but pretty much segregated. I was wondering if at some point they are integrated with the general population or largely kept apart.

]]> By: Alan http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71050 Alan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71050 <p>Lance, Bill implies that Sephardim Jews and Ethiopian Jews are treated as equals in Israel just because they exist. As anyone who has ever been in Israel and really experienced the country (meaning one has to avoid the very deceiving marketing "tours"), I can assure you that that's his usual bs, counting on the fact that most people wouldn't know how these Jews are treated.</p> <p>They are second-class citizens, only slightly above Israeli Arabs (who are third-class citizens).</p> <p>Not to mention other niceties, like the number of holocaust survivors living in dire poverty.</p> <p>One wonders why Bill is still in America when Israel - according to him - is such a nice country.</p> Lance, Bill implies that Sephardim Jews and Ethiopian Jews are treated as equals in Israel just because they exist. As anyone who has ever been in Israel and really experienced the country (meaning one has to avoid the very deceiving marketing "tours"), I can assure you that that's his usual bs, counting on the fact that most people wouldn't know how these Jews are treated.

They are second-class citizens, only slightly above Israeli Arabs (who are third-class citizens).

Not to mention other niceties, like the number of holocaust survivors living in dire poverty.

One wonders why Bill is still in America when Israel – according to him – is such a nice country.

]]> By: bill Pearlman http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71051 bill Pearlman Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71051 <p>Alan, nobody ever claimed that Isrel was a utopian society, What I am saying is that the people are has native to the region has anybody else and that the case that this is some sort of situation where people of "color" are being dumped on by white people is full of shit. And if you were ever in Israel for any period of time you would know that the Jews who are most skeptical of the Arabs intentions are Jews from Arab countries. the ones who know them the best. Peace now and what's left of the Israeli left wing is almost exclusively Ashenazi. <br /> The Ethiopian Jews are the only black africans who have ever been airlifted to a country and given full citizenship and help. No other country has ever done this and Sudanese refugees are trying to reach Israel even has we speak. Skiping all the "benevolent" brother Arab countries. Palestinians in Israel have aligned themselves with the enemy and are a security risk, without question. Any other country would have deported these people. Only Israel has members of a minority who want to destroy it in the parliament. <br /> Lastly, explain to me why guys like you are obsessed with all things Jewish, how much time out of every day do you spend researching us. And why, I'm not being sarcastic I really would like to know what makes a guy like you tick.</p> Alan, nobody ever claimed that Isrel was a utopian society, What I am saying is that the people are has native to the region has anybody else and that the case that this is some sort of situation where people of "color" are being dumped on by white people is full of shit. And if you were ever in Israel for any period of time you would know that the Jews who are most skeptical of the Arabs intentions are Jews from Arab countries. the ones who know them the best. Peace now and what's left of the Israeli left wing is almost exclusively Ashenazi.
The Ethiopian Jews are the only black africans who have ever been airlifted to a country and given full citizenship and help. No other country has ever done this and Sudanese refugees are trying to reach Israel even has we speak. Skiping all the "benevolent" brother Arab countries. Palestinians in Israel have aligned themselves with the enemy and are a security risk, without question. Any other country would have deported these people. Only Israel has members of a minority who want to destroy it in the parliament.
Lastly, explain to me why guys like you are obsessed with all things Jewish, how much time out of every day do you spend researching us. And why, I'm not being sarcastic I really would like to know what makes a guy like you tick.

]]> By: Alan http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71052 Alan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71052 <p>Oh, yeah, the Sudanese refugees! Last time I checked these poor refugees were put in concentration camps ("shelters") and getting ready to be deported.</p> <p>And considering the Apartheid laws, including the new JNF bill that wouldn't allow Israeli citizens who happen to be Arab to buy any land, I can't say I'm really surprised this minority has issues with the State.</p> <p>As far as security risks go, I don't see you having any trouble with fanatic Zionist neocons trying to drag the US into more ME wars on behalf of Israel, are you? But hey, oops, I forgot, you ARE a fanatic Zionist who wants the US to nuke Iran! How could you possibly have a problem with the security risk such persons - some of who have been investigated by the FBI in the past for passing State secrets to Israel - pose to the US? As long as it's good for Israel, right Bill?</p> <p>Yeah, keep talking about security risks.</p> <p>P.S. You conveniently forgot to answer my question: Why aren't you in Israel Bill? And have your kids served in the IDF? Nah, probably not. I bet your family has "other priorities".</p> Oh, yeah, the Sudanese refugees! Last time I checked these poor refugees were put in concentration camps ("shelters") and getting ready to be deported.

And considering the Apartheid laws, including the new JNF bill that wouldn't allow Israeli citizens who happen to be Arab to buy any land, I can't say I'm really surprised this minority has issues with the State.

As far as security risks go, I don't see you having any trouble with fanatic Zionist neocons trying to drag the US into more ME wars on behalf of Israel, are you? But hey, oops, I forgot, you ARE a fanatic Zionist who wants the US to nuke Iran! How could you possibly have a problem with the security risk such persons – some of who have been investigated by the FBI in the past for passing State secrets to Israel – pose to the US? As long as it's good for Israel, right Bill?

Yeah, keep talking about security risks.

P.S. You conveniently forgot to answer my question: Why aren't you in Israel Bill? And have your kids served in the IDF? Nah, probably not. I bet your family has "other priorities".

]]> By: Sabine Wales http://mondoweiss.net/2007/08/anticipating-wa.html/comment-page-1#comment-71053 Sabine Wales Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/08/02/anticipating-wa.html#comment-71053 <p>"Been there, done that" is also the strategy used to prevent a congressional investigation of the traitors who lied us into an unnecessary war which is bankrupting the country. (The Republicans say that this is old news.) Hopefully the Mearsheimer/Walt book will reinvigorate the public discussion leading to pressure on Congress to act before the Israel Lobby leads us into another war. </p> "Been there, done that" is also the strategy used to prevent a congressional investigation of the traitors who lied us into an unnecessary war which is bankrupting the country. (The Republicans say that this is old news.) Hopefully the Mearsheimer/Walt book will reinvigorate the public discussion leading to pressure on Congress to act before the Israel Lobby leads us into another war.

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