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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;more like MY bet in the last israel lobby thread! Anyway, both Ron paul and critics of israel are severly marginalized so it would have to be during a debate, if they even let him debate.  Certainly none of the dems will say anything about it, though kucinich is coming around.  He and Paul were the only ones to vote against the ridiculous AIPAC / Iran bill last month&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more like MY bet in the last israel lobby thread! Anyway, both Ron paul and critics of israel are severly marginalized so it would have to be during a debate, if they even let him debate.  Certainly none of the dems will say anything about it, though kucinich is coming around.  He and Paul were the only ones to vote against the ridiculous AIPAC / Iran bill last month</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is black humor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have to wite a paper about the Saudi lobby.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good plan?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is black humor.</p>
<p>I have to wite a paper about the Saudi lobby.</p>
<p>Good plan?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PS&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The AIPAC matter is anti-statesmanship.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The quality of the USA politics needs improvement. But AIPAC is a sideshow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The former colonies of Asia and Africa are so poorly managed that they are bringing the world to a catastrophic crisis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Russian and Iranian brinkmanship are our other major problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All nations must dig themselves out of the holes by a moral and decent reformation at home.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that John Edwards could be our best choice for the difficult times ahead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I hope that Barack Obama will recognize that he is a caricature. Completely unqualified like Hillary Clinton. (Bill Clinton was an unqualified failure as I think of him now.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Only Edwards or McCain have character and integrity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The rest are the usual politicians. Disturbed  by truth.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS</p>
<p>The AIPAC matter is anti-statesmanship.</p>
<p>The quality of the USA politics needs improvement. But AIPAC is a sideshow.</p>
<p>The former colonies of Asia and Africa are so poorly managed that they are bringing the world to a catastrophic crisis.</p>
<p>The Russian and Iranian brinkmanship are our other major problem.</p>
<p>All nations must dig themselves out of the holes by a moral and decent reformation at home.</p>
<p>I think that John Edwards could be our best choice for the difficult times ahead.</p>
<p>And I hope that Barack Obama will recognize that he is a caricature. Completely unqualified like Hillary Clinton. (Bill Clinton was an unqualified failure as I think of him now.)</p>
<p>Only Edwards or McCain have character and integrity.</p>
<p>The rest are the usual politicians. Disturbed  by truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, I am less optimistic than you are.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The whole American political establishment is already on board as far as a now likely war against Iran is concerned (see Arthur Silber&#039;s excellent analysis on http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2007/08/worsening-nightmare.html).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps in the aftermath of that catastrophe Walt and Mearsheimer&#039;s ideas will be common currency - but what will be the point then?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I am less optimistic than you are.</p>
<p>The whole American political establishment is already on board as far as a now likely war against Iran is concerned (see Arthur Silber&#39;s excellent analysis on <a href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2007/08/worsening-nightmare.html)./p">link to powerofnarrative.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>Perhaps in the aftermath of that catastrophe Walt and Mearsheimer&#39;s ideas will be common currency &#8211; but what will be the point then?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed*ard Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed*ard Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1.  It won&#039;t go mainstream.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2.  Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucenich just might bring it up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3.  You&#039;re very courageous and tenacious, Phil.  I&#039;ve been too busy to read many of your essays since you &quot;left&quot; the Observer&#039;s space, but I&#039;m learning a lot on my few visits here.  Thank you!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  It won&#39;t go mainstream.</p>
<p>2.  Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucenich just might bring it up.</p>
<p>3.  You&#39;re very courageous and tenacious, Phil.  I&#39;ve been too busy to read many of your essays since you &quot;left&quot; the Observer&#39;s space, but I&#39;m learning a lot on my few visits here.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul&#039;s writings during the run-up to the war made it clear that he considered the Israel lobby a major factor. Since launching his campaign, however, he has had to drop any reference to the topic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On another subject: Just a reminder that the MuzzleWatch story on the town of Watertown&#039;s recent stand against the ADL is fascinating. The video of the town meeting (about an hour long) is as heartwarming as any Hollywood movie. The comments from the townspeople, while polite, make it clear that they recognize exactly what kind of organization the ADL really is.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.hairenik.com/HairenikTV/HA_TV_Clip98.htm&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=228&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul&#39;s writings during the run-up to the war made it clear that he considered the Israel lobby a major factor. Since launching his campaign, however, he has had to drop any reference to the topic.</p>
<p>On another subject: Just a reminder that the MuzzleWatch story on the town of Watertown&#39;s recent stand against the ADL is fascinating. The video of the town meeting (about an hour long) is as heartwarming as any Hollywood movie. The comments from the townspeople, while polite, make it clear that they recognize exactly what kind of organization the ADL really is.<br />
<a href="http://www.hairenik.com/HairenikTV/HA_TV_Clip98.htmbr">link to hairenik.com</a><br /> /><br />
<a href="http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=228/p">link to muzzlewatch.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hank Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a very interesting blog. It is ironic that I come upon it now, just days before the publication of my new book on the influence of the shadow woman lobby. That&#039;s right, the woman lobby. I&#039;m not talking about their front organizations like NOW or NARAL, I&#039;m talking about the informal infrastructure of females that conspire to control the world. Talk about a third rail - THIS never gets discussed. Over the last 100 years these ladies have gained increasingly greater control over out media institutions (Oprah anyone?), our government (record number of female repreresentatives at the state and national level), our foreign policy (Rice anyone?), our educational institutions (more female professors and students), our corporations (Meg Whitman anyone?) and most importantly our homes (you know what I&#039;m talking about). Take a look at the world around you. We are besieged by terrorism, ecological disaster, potential market collapse, rogue states, an ineffectual UN, record number of bankruptices, dog fighting quarterbacks and crooked NBA refs. Do you really think that we would have these problems if it weren&#039;t for these dastardly women? Who do you think gave birth to the people who are exploiting others and to those who are killing innocent children? That&#039;s right -- WOMEN!! Those damn women. Michele Malkin - can you name me someone who was beating the war drum louder than this woman. Imelda Marcos - she made her husband oppress an entire island nation just so she could fulfill her shoe obsession. Winnie Mandela - almost single handedly destroyed her great husband&#039;s reputation. Margaret Thatcher - the Iron Lady caused unknown amounts of death and destruction due to her policies and decisions. Golda Meir - Mass killer of Arabs. Suha Arafat - Thief of millions. Lindsy Lohan, Brittany Spears, Madonna. I could go on for pages, but you&#039;ll have to read my new book for a comprehensive list. Now I used to be big fan of women. I bought into their propaganda hook line and sinker. I was taken in by many of them and did their bidding. My own mother and sisters were active in the conspiracy, but kept me in the dark for the most part. The constant anti-male remarks should have clued me in. Always stressing the need for women to have more control and their own desire to run things went right over my head. It wasn&#039;t until I met a man who had once been a woman. &quot;He&quot; had a sex change several years ago and spilled the beans on the woman conspiracy. Let me add that it is not ALL women. Some women are good people who don&#039;t wish to see their sisters take control and continue ruining the world, but they are cowed into silence by their fellow sisters. Just try bringing this up at a cocktail party. With my new book &quot;The Shadow Woman Lobby&quot; I expose all and lay out a 27 point plan on how to take back control. We may need to crack a few eggs, but can we really afford not to?&lt;br /&gt;
You can expect quite a few johnnie-come-latelys to come out with similar books now about this conspiracy, but remember that you heard it first here, from Hank Ford. FIGHT THE WOMAN LOBBY! &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting blog. It is ironic that I come upon it now, just days before the publication of my new book on the influence of the shadow woman lobby. That&#39;s right, the woman lobby. I&#39;m not talking about their front organizations like NOW or NARAL, I&#39;m talking about the informal infrastructure of females that conspire to control the world. Talk about a third rail &#8211; THIS never gets discussed. Over the last 100 years these ladies have gained increasingly greater control over out media institutions (Oprah anyone?), our government (record number of female repreresentatives at the state and national level), our foreign policy (Rice anyone?), our educational institutions (more female professors and students), our corporations (Meg Whitman anyone?) and most importantly our homes (you know what I&#39;m talking about). Take a look at the world around you. We are besieged by terrorism, ecological disaster, potential market collapse, rogue states, an ineffectual UN, record number of bankruptices, dog fighting quarterbacks and crooked NBA refs. Do you really think that we would have these problems if it weren&#39;t for these dastardly women? Who do you think gave birth to the people who are exploiting others and to those who are killing innocent children? That&#39;s right &#8212; WOMEN!! Those damn women. Michele Malkin &#8211; can you name me someone who was beating the war drum louder than this woman. Imelda Marcos &#8211; she made her husband oppress an entire island nation just so she could fulfill her shoe obsession. Winnie Mandela &#8211; almost single handedly destroyed her great husband&#39;s reputation. Margaret Thatcher &#8211; the Iron Lady caused unknown amounts of death and destruction due to her policies and decisions. Golda Meir &#8211; Mass killer of Arabs. Suha Arafat &#8211; Thief of millions. Lindsy Lohan, Brittany Spears, Madonna. I could go on for pages, but you&#39;ll have to read my new book for a comprehensive list. Now I used to be big fan of women. I bought into their propaganda hook line and sinker. I was taken in by many of them and did their bidding. My own mother and sisters were active in the conspiracy, but kept me in the dark for the most part. The constant anti-male remarks should have clued me in. Always stressing the need for women to have more control and their own desire to run things went right over my head. It wasn&#39;t until I met a man who had once been a woman. &quot;He&quot; had a sex change several years ago and spilled the beans on the woman conspiracy. Let me add that it is not ALL women. Some women are good people who don&#39;t wish to see their sisters take control and continue ruining the world, but they are cowed into silence by their fellow sisters. Just try bringing this up at a cocktail party. With my new book &quot;The Shadow Woman Lobby&quot; I expose all and lay out a 27 point plan on how to take back control. We may need to crack a few eggs, but can we really afford not to?<br />
You can expect quite a few johnnie-come-latelys to come out with similar books now about this conspiracy, but remember that you heard it first here, from Hank Ford. FIGHT THE WOMAN LOBBY! </p>
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		<title>By: JMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Given my dissident politics, I should be up in arms about the Israel lobby. Not only have I supported the civil rights of the Palestinians over the years, but two of my principal intellectual mentors were George W. Ball and Edward Said, both severe critics of Israel and its extra-special relationship with the United States. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nowadays I ought to be even bolder in my critique, since the silent agreement suppressing candid discussions about Israeli-U.S. relations has recently been shaken by some decidedly mainstream figures. These critics of Israel and its American agents include John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, of the University of Chicago, and Harvard&#039;s Kennedy School, respectively; Tony Judt, a historian at New York University; and former President Jimmy Carter. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Somehow, though, I can&#039;t shake the idea that the Israel lobby, no matter how powerful, isn&#039;t all it is cracked up to be, particularly where it concerns the Bush administrations past and present. Indeed, when I think of pernicious foreign lobbies with disproportionate sway over American politics, I can&#039;t see past Saudi Arabia and its royal house, led by King Abdullah. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The long and corrupt history of American-Saudi relations centers around the kingdom&#039;s vast reserves of easily extractable oil, of course. Ever since President Franklin D. Roosevelt met aboard ship in 1945 with King Ibn Saud, the special relationship with the desert kingdom has only grown stronger. The House of Saud is usually happy to sell us oil at a consistent and reasonable price and then increase production if unseemly market forces drive the world price of a barrel too high for U.S. consumers. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In exchange we arm the Saudis to the teeth and turn a blind eye to their medieval approach to crime and punishment. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even during the Saudi-led oil embargo of 1973-74, an exceedingly hostile action against the United States supposedly justified by Washington&#039;s support of Israel in the Yom Kippur War, the Nixon administration treaded very softly. Despite the illegality of the embargo it arguably violated international law as well as a bilateral commercial agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia the White House and the State Department could hardly have been more diplomatic toward their Bedouin friends. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As the historian J.B. Kelly recounts, the U.S. ambassador to Riyahd, James Akins, did his best to placate King Faisal by urging the Saudi&#039;s American-owned oil concessionaire ARAMCO to, in Akin&#039;s words, &quot;hammer home&quot; to the White House that the embargo wouldn&#039;t be lifted unless &quot;the political struggle [between Israel and the Arabs] is settled in [a] manner satisfactory to [the] Arabs.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In all, as Kelly wrote, &quot;a most peculiar recourse for an ambassador to employ to influence the policy of his own government.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But this was a blip on the screen of harmonious petrol politics. After Iran&#039;s Islamic revolution overthrew the trusted shah, in 1979, the thoroughly anti-democratic Saudi oligarchy appeared an island of stability and thus of greater strategic value to Washington. Indeed, in a head-to-head match-up with the Israel lobby in 1981 over the proposed American sale of AWACS planes to the Saudis, the Saudi lobby won a close vote in the Senate. Leading the Arab charge on Capitol Hill was the debonair Prince Bandar, who demonstrated that charm mixed with a lot of money could beat the Israelis, even during the pro-Israel administration of Ronald Reagan. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bandar was quickly promoted to Saudi ambassador to Washington, where, in 1990, he was assigned the task by Defense Secretary Dick Cheney of, in effect, doling out press passes to the U.S. media before the Gulf War this in spite of the fact that tens of thousands of U.S. troops were swarming into the kingdom to defend it against a perceived invasion threat from Saddam Hussein. When he wasn&#039;t entertaining congressmen and spreading good cheer through his highly paid lobbyist, Fred Dutton, Bandar was busy making friends with, at first vice president, and then president, George H.W. Bush, and by extension with Bush&#039;s son, the future president. This personal relationship with the Bush family has served Bandar and his family very well, as documented in Craig Unger&#039;s book, House of Bush, House of Saud.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the prince and his royal relatives evidently also impressed the Clinton administration. Before he died in the World Trade Center on 9/11, the former FBI counterterrorism chief John O&#039;Neill complained to French investigator Jean-Charles Brisard that Saudi pressure on the State Department had prevented him from fully investigating possible al-Qaida involvement in the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen, and of the destroyer Cole in 2000. As with Pakistan&#039;s President Pervez Musharraf, there&#039;s always talk of the Saudis playing a double game with al-Qaida publicly denouncing it and privately paying it off but you don&#039;t have to be a conspiracy theorist to understand that the Saudis don&#039;t have America&#039;s best interests at heart. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So it gets worse. Now, according to Seymour Hersh, Bandar has virtually joined the Bush administration as a shadow cabinet member. Hersh&#039;s New Yorker article last month described &quot;the redirection&quot; of U.S. foreign policy against Iran and Arab Shi&#039;ite terrorists in collaboration with such Sunni-dominated countries as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt (this in spite of the fact that Sunni rebels, funded in part by Saudi &quot;private citizens,&quot; have killed the bulk of American solidiers who have died in Iraq). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The wise men in this new policy council reportedly include Vice President Cheney, deputy national security adviser Elliot Abrams (an Iran-Contra convict who is very pro-Israel), the nominee for U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad, and none other than Bandar, now the Saudi national-security adviser. Such is the cynicism of Bushian, Israeli and Saudi foreign policy that Abrams collaborates with Bandar, whose country does not recognize Israel and whose &quot;charities&quot; give money to the families of suicide bombers who blow themselves up inside the Jewish state. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lately, King Abdullah has been making anti-American noises, calling the U.S. presence in Iraq an &quot;illegitimate foreign occupation.&quot; But like the Saudis&#039; paper-thin devotion to the Palestinian cause, this is just so much realpolitik. In March 1974, the oil embargo was lifted without any conditions concerning Palestinian rights. Today, as the Shi&#039;ism scholar Amal Saad-Ghorayeb told Mohamad Bazzi, of Newsday, &quot;the Saudis are being more autonomous, but it&#039;s a very contrived sense of autonomy&quot; designed &quot;to give [them] more political cover so they can rally Arab support against [Shi&#039;ite] Iran.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re naive enough to believe that the Saudi king&#039;s rhetoric signifies a genuine break with the United States over Iraq, or anything else, then you might also believe that the Israel lobby is more powerful than the Saudi lobby. And if you think that Israeli security means more to George Bush than Saudi oil, then you might even believe that Bush saw 9/11 coming. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given my dissident politics, I should be up in arms about the Israel lobby. Not only have I supported the civil rights of the Palestinians over the years, but two of my principal intellectual mentors were George W. Ball and Edward Said, both severe critics of Israel and its extra-special relationship with the United States. </p>
<p>Nowadays I ought to be even bolder in my critique, since the silent agreement suppressing candid discussions about Israeli-U.S. relations has recently been shaken by some decidedly mainstream figures. These critics of Israel and its American agents include John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, of the University of Chicago, and Harvard&#39;s Kennedy School, respectively; Tony Judt, a historian at New York University; and former President Jimmy Carter. </p>
<p>Somehow, though, I can&#39;t shake the idea that the Israel lobby, no matter how powerful, isn&#39;t all it is cracked up to be, particularly where it concerns the Bush administrations past and present. Indeed, when I think of pernicious foreign lobbies with disproportionate sway over American politics, I can&#39;t see past Saudi Arabia and its royal house, led by King Abdullah. </p>
<p>The long and corrupt history of American-Saudi relations centers around the kingdom&#39;s vast reserves of easily extractable oil, of course. Ever since President Franklin D. Roosevelt met aboard ship in 1945 with King Ibn Saud, the special relationship with the desert kingdom has only grown stronger. The House of Saud is usually happy to sell us oil at a consistent and reasonable price and then increase production if unseemly market forces drive the world price of a barrel too high for U.S. consumers. </p>
<p>In exchange we arm the Saudis to the teeth and turn a blind eye to their medieval approach to crime and punishment. </p>
<p>Even during the Saudi-led oil embargo of 1973-74, an exceedingly hostile action against the United States supposedly justified by Washington&#39;s support of Israel in the Yom Kippur War, the Nixon administration treaded very softly. Despite the illegality of the embargo it arguably violated international law as well as a bilateral commercial agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia the White House and the State Department could hardly have been more diplomatic toward their Bedouin friends. </p>
<p>As the historian J.B. Kelly recounts, the U.S. ambassador to Riyahd, James Akins, did his best to placate King Faisal by urging the Saudi&#39;s American-owned oil concessionaire ARAMCO to, in Akin&#39;s words, &quot;hammer home&quot; to the White House that the embargo wouldn&#39;t be lifted unless &quot;the political struggle [between Israel and the Arabs] is settled in [a] manner satisfactory to [the] Arabs.&quot; </p>
<p>In all, as Kelly wrote, &quot;a most peculiar recourse for an ambassador to employ to influence the policy of his own government.&quot; </p>
<p>But this was a blip on the screen of harmonious petrol politics. After Iran&#39;s Islamic revolution overthrew the trusted shah, in 1979, the thoroughly anti-democratic Saudi oligarchy appeared an island of stability and thus of greater strategic value to Washington. Indeed, in a head-to-head match-up with the Israel lobby in 1981 over the proposed American sale of AWACS planes to the Saudis, the Saudi lobby won a close vote in the Senate. Leading the Arab charge on Capitol Hill was the debonair Prince Bandar, who demonstrated that charm mixed with a lot of money could beat the Israelis, even during the pro-Israel administration of Ronald Reagan. </p>
<p>Bandar was quickly promoted to Saudi ambassador to Washington, where, in 1990, he was assigned the task by Defense Secretary Dick Cheney of, in effect, doling out press passes to the U.S. media before the Gulf War this in spite of the fact that tens of thousands of U.S. troops were swarming into the kingdom to defend it against a perceived invasion threat from Saddam Hussein. When he wasn&#39;t entertaining congressmen and spreading good cheer through his highly paid lobbyist, Fred Dutton, Bandar was busy making friends with, at first vice president, and then president, George H.W. Bush, and by extension with Bush&#39;s son, the future president. This personal relationship with the Bush family has served Bandar and his family very well, as documented in Craig Unger&#39;s book, House of Bush, House of Saud.</p>
<p>But the prince and his royal relatives evidently also impressed the Clinton administration. Before he died in the World Trade Center on 9/11, the former FBI counterterrorism chief John O&#39;Neill complained to French investigator Jean-Charles Brisard that Saudi pressure on the State Department had prevented him from fully investigating possible al-Qaida involvement in the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen, and of the destroyer Cole in 2000. As with Pakistan&#39;s President Pervez Musharraf, there&#39;s always talk of the Saudis playing a double game with al-Qaida publicly denouncing it and privately paying it off but you don&#39;t have to be a conspiracy theorist to understand that the Saudis don&#39;t have America&#39;s best interests at heart. </p>
<p>So it gets worse. Now, according to Seymour Hersh, Bandar has virtually joined the Bush administration as a shadow cabinet member. Hersh&#39;s New Yorker article last month described &quot;the redirection&quot; of U.S. foreign policy against Iran and Arab Shi&#39;ite terrorists in collaboration with such Sunni-dominated countries as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt (this in spite of the fact that Sunni rebels, funded in part by Saudi &quot;private citizens,&quot; have killed the bulk of American solidiers who have died in Iraq). </p>
<p>The wise men in this new policy council reportedly include Vice President Cheney, deputy national security adviser Elliot Abrams (an Iran-Contra convict who is very pro-Israel), the nominee for U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad, and none other than Bandar, now the Saudi national-security adviser. Such is the cynicism of Bushian, Israeli and Saudi foreign policy that Abrams collaborates with Bandar, whose country does not recognize Israel and whose &quot;charities&quot; give money to the families of suicide bombers who blow themselves up inside the Jewish state. </p>
<p>Lately, King Abdullah has been making anti-American noises, calling the U.S. presence in Iraq an &quot;illegitimate foreign occupation.&quot; But like the Saudis&#39; paper-thin devotion to the Palestinian cause, this is just so much realpolitik. In March 1974, the oil embargo was lifted without any conditions concerning Palestinian rights. Today, as the Shi&#39;ism scholar Amal Saad-Ghorayeb told Mohamad Bazzi, of Newsday, &quot;the Saudis are being more autonomous, but it&#39;s a very contrived sense of autonomy&quot; designed &quot;to give [them] more political cover so they can rally Arab support against [Shi&#39;ite] Iran.&quot; </p>
<p>If you&#39;re naive enough to believe that the Saudi king&#39;s rhetoric signifies a genuine break with the United States over Iraq, or anything else, then you might also believe that the Israel lobby is more powerful than the Saudi lobby. And if you think that Israeli security means more to George Bush than Saudi oil, then you might even believe that Bush saw 9/11 coming. </p>
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		<title>By: sharpinchitown</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve, you&#039;re on the wrong side.  everyone you mentioned - Edwards, Clinton, Obama - are all a part of the system, just the other side of the coin from your standard republican.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul is the only politician who does not believe in the Federal Reserve banking system of inflating and deflating our economy into bankruptcy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He is also the only republican who was ALWAYS anti-war (how many democrats can say that?) because it violates our Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you&#39;re on the wrong side.  everyone you mentioned &#8211; Edwards, Clinton, Obama &#8211; are all a part of the system, just the other side of the coin from your standard republican.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is the only politician who does not believe in the Federal Reserve banking system of inflating and deflating our economy into bankruptcy.</p>
<p>He is also the only republican who was ALWAYS anti-war (how many democrats can say that?) because it violates our Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: PMS</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hank Ford is a chauvanist pig. Everyone knows it is men who have caused all of the problems in the world. Has there ever been a female president of the USA?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And don&#039;t give me this crap about women controlling the men behind the scenes. That is crazy conspiratorial thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank Ford is a chauvanist pig. Everyone knows it is men who have caused all of the problems in the world. Has there ever been a female president of the USA?</p>
<p>And don&#39;t give me this crap about women controlling the men behind the scenes. That is crazy conspiratorial thinking.</p>
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