I think that one very hopeful thing that distinguishes our Internet era is that meaningful conversations can take place "outside the mainstream media". A lot of people can talk to a lot of other people for very little money.

The mainstream media is not "our friend", it is certainly one of the prime suspects in leading the USA into Iraq and it has to treated like the "official press" of a dictatorship, which is read "between the lines" and never taken at face value.

It costs a lot of money to create the mass media and that money is spent to shape the opinions of the majority that don't have a lot of money in ways to make them behave in ways that are beneficial to the owners of said media. 2+2=4, n'est pas?

M&W's book is subversive in the best sense of the word. Subverting the "gatekeeper" function of the mainstream media is of vital importance in what is to be practically a labor of recreating democracy from mere DNA traces, like some political-science fiction version of Jurassic Park.

I would add to that reasoning a personal or emotional rage at Saddam Hussein on the part of GW, to complete the "unfinished business" of the first Iraqi war, and as payback for alleged assasination attempts on his father.

"The true danger here is that the conversation will happen outside the mainstream media."

The "true danger" to whom? Phil, I admire your work, but you need to stop worrying about the Judeofascists and start worrying about humanity.

The Judeofascists have basically conditioned nearly all Jews — even open-minded liberal ones — to think as a tribe no matter where the Judeofascist elite leads them. Hence, an honest debate beneficial to all of humanity about Judeofascist influence over Washington is framed as a potential "danger" to all Jews.

Your point seems to be that an undercurrent of anti-Semitism will swell into a tidal wave if the debate is suppressed by the MSM. But this is America. If a tidal wave forms, it's not going to take out average Jews, it's going to take out the Judeofascists at the top who helped lead America (and average Jews) into this mess: guys like Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Wurmser, Kristol, Krauthammer, Tom Friedman et al. and to a lesser extent what blogger xymphora calls the Jewish Billionaire's Club — rich racist diaspora Jews who are using their money to advance a quasi-fascist Jewish empire in Greater Israel by buying off Washington and largely controlling the MSM.

So would it be a bad thing if corrupt Judeofascists at the top in America are discredited and destroyed? Only to Jews who are reliant upon them and enabling them, and thus are culpable as collaborators anyway.

So please tell me: How is a massive American backlash against Judeofascism a bad thing? I would say any "danger" percolating out there in America is merely to the Judeofascists and their useful idiots, not to average Jews.

In other words, Mr. Weiss, please don't hold your breath for the media to get on the Lobby-Neocon-Iraq connection… or WTC 7 being "pulled" and not even worthy of mention in the 9/11 Commission report… Personally I am shocked, and will only even believe it when I see it, that W&M are going to be on the Colbert Report. But I will bet good money they won't be on TV much anywhere else, and people will be too busy talking about Syria to discuss 'the neo-con 25' and their destroying Iraq mostly for Zionist ends.

On a brighter note, serious discussion can, has, and will continue to happen over the internet where serious people are now going for information. If the media continues the blackout on the topics that are unsettling for power, it will lose marketshare, just as it has been starting to do. And I for one look forward to seeing how the Jewish billionaires (who fund the Lobby) choose between profits and this one-note ideology.

I decided that I would not be shy, I would rant and rave, tell everybody what I thought. I wore my "I Love Palestine" T-shirt, I went into bars with a chip on my shoulder, expecting a fight.

Much to my surprise, as I started telling the strangers sitting beside me the things I saw at checkpoints, the way our tax dollars support racist policies, they would agree with me. At work, at cocktail parties, in dive bars, people understood the brutality of Israel's policies. Their sympathies were with the boy with the stone, not the man with the tank, no matter how often the New York Times or George Bush told them Israel was our ally. Perhaps this should not have surprised me, but it did.

What I realised, after the fifth person asked where they could get a Yassir Arafat t-shirt, is that although the American media and government are pro-Israeli, the American people are not. Part of this may be some sort of residual anti-semitism but mostly I think it is support for the underdog. After all, it is hard to root for the tank against a child with a stone.

The great dilemma for America's elites is that more and more of us don't believe our media or our government. The disparity between what we see to be the truth and what our leaders tell us will ultimately cost them. After all, the Soviet Union fell at least in part because no one believed the establishment's stories.

America fostered the Ku Klux Klan, long-term restrictive immigration rights to protect its racial purity. America tolerated Jim Crow, failing to afford ALL men (including those without property, female humans, people of color) full civil rights.

In the 1930's and early 40's, MANY urged that the US has no business fighting fascism in Europe, and on the basis of popular movements spawned by heroes Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford.

Until the 50's and early 60's Jews were subject to "legal" limitations on college entrance, numerous professions (including banking, law, defense, and others).

My mother described for me her first five years at public school in Worcester MA, in which she was routinely chased for being a Jew, a "Christ killer".

The second day that my son attended the local high school, he was assaulted by another student, who put a note on his desk saying "Hitler should have finished the job".

Fear is always exagerated and irrational. Its just that it is not unfounded, nor is America as confidently just as the naive imagine.

It is now. It has been largely in my and Phil's life (we spent a couple summers together as teenagers).

It hasn't been in my in-laws and wife's lives, survivors (and children of survivors)of real genocide.

Naivete is easy when speaking of others' lives.