Comments on: The World Changes! A Full-Page Ad for Walt/Mearsheimer in NYT! http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 21:18:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: Adam http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69654 Adam Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69654 <p>Bill Maher seemed pretty freaked out by Michael Scheuer's criticism of US policy towards Israel. I wish Scheuer had pressed the issue a bit more and clarified Maher's misconceptions about Israeli "democracy". </p> <p>I thought the crowds reaction was interesting as well with many more cheers than boos for Scheuer's and Garafalo's comments. </p> Bill Maher seemed pretty freaked out by Michael Scheuer's criticism of US policy towards Israel. I wish Scheuer had pressed the issue a bit more and clarified Maher's misconceptions about Israeli "democracy".

I thought the crowds reaction was interesting as well with many more cheers than boos for Scheuer's and Garafalo's comments.

]]> By: cooper http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69655 cooper Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69655 <p>FREE THE JENA SIX!FREE THE JENA SIX!FREE THE JENA SIX!</p> <p>[NewSpeak translation: <br /> .<br /> "White Man, return to your cubicles.<br /> .<br /> Noble Black Man, Arise! <br /> .<br /> Ignore the puppeteer-ovitz; you must save <br /> The Magic Negro.<br /> .<br /> Pay no attention to the terrorists Walt and Mearsheimer.<br /> .<br /> Our next Hate will again feature Osama Bin Goldstein as regularly scheduled..."]</p> FREE THE JENA SIX!FREE THE JENA SIX!FREE THE JENA SIX!

[NewSpeak translation:
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"White Man, return to your cubicles.
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Noble Black Man, Arise!
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Ignore the puppeteer-ovitz; you must save
The Magic Negro.
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Pay no attention to the terrorists Walt and Mearsheimer.
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Our next Hate will again feature Osama Bin Goldstein as regularly scheduled..."]

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69656 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69656 <p>Michael Scheuer shocks Bill Maher by talking about American wars for Israel--http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18442.htm</p> Michael Scheuer shocks Bill Maher by talking about American wars for Israel–link to informationclearinghouse.info

]]> By: lester http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69657 lester Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69657 <p>I think what the maher show illustrates is something that the book made abundently clear to me: regardless of your view of the various issues surrounding israel, much of the rhetoric about it is out of date. Some of it is leftover from the cold war and immediate post 9/11 shock. israel supporters need to update their arguments, as the old ones don't really cut it anymore. israel can't logically be described as a strategic assett.</p> I think what the maher show illustrates is something that the book made abundently clear to me: regardless of your view of the various issues surrounding israel, much of the rhetoric about it is out of date. Some of it is leftover from the cold war and immediate post 9/11 shock. israel supporters need to update their arguments, as the old ones don't really cut it anymore. israel can't logically be described as a strategic assett.

]]> By: WM http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69658 WM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69658 <p>I think the media strategy last time is to not talk about the W&M paper, but have their editorials blast them as anti-semites. Obviously it has changed this time, instead of calling them anti-semites, call them delusional because the fact that they are being covered by the media shows that the power of the lobby is a myth.</p> <p>Scheuer is starting to show a little more spine. I remember when he did talk about the Israel lobby, he will frequently follow it up with "but you got to watch out for the Saudi Lobby". Now he is coming out and playing realpolitiks.</p> <p>South Africans in the Apartheid days might have thought American soldiers should die so their beacon of civilization in a land surround by savages could thrive, only the Aryan nation might have joined that struggle. America would have armed SA to the teeth, but would let them defend against the savages on their own.</p> I think the media strategy last time is to not talk about the W&M paper, but have their editorials blast them as anti-semites. Obviously it has changed this time, instead of calling them anti-semites, call them delusional because the fact that they are being covered by the media shows that the power of the lobby is a myth.

Scheuer is starting to show a little more spine. I remember when he did talk about the Israel lobby, he will frequently follow it up with "but you got to watch out for the Saudi Lobby". Now he is coming out and playing realpolitiks.

South Africans in the Apartheid days might have thought American soldiers should die so their beacon of civilization in a land surround by savages could thrive, only the Aryan nation might have joined that struggle. America would have armed SA to the teeth, but would let them defend against the savages on their own.

]]> By: daveg http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69659 daveg Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69659 <p>Is Scheuer Jewish? He look it, and in this press conference he seems to be wearing a Kippah, no?</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt6Pf7jZjA</p> <p>He comes in around minute number 7:00.</p> Is Scheuer Jewish? He look it, and in this press conference he seems to be wearing a Kippah, no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt6Pf7jZjA

He comes in around minute number 7:00.

]]> By: Steve http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69660 Steve Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69660 <p>Petty scholars<br /> =====================================</p> <p>I think WM will go down in history as petty pitiful one-dimensional trash writers.</p> <p>I hope I am right.<br /> =====================================</p> Petty scholars
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I think WM will go down in history as petty pitiful one-dimensional trash writers.

I hope I am right.
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]]> By: daveg http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69661 daveg Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69661 <p>Read somewhere else that Scheuer went to Jesuit school, so not Jewish.</p> Read somewhere else that Scheuer went to Jesuit school, so not Jewish.

]]> By: WM http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/jeff-jacoby-wri.html/comment-page-1#comment-69662 WM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/24/jeff-jacoby-wri.html#comment-69662 <p>Steve, I assume you are ignorant and don't know what I am talking about. So you better go watch the Scheuer video and apply it to what Maher and the rest of the politicians are saying. If you still don't get it, I will explain it to you.<br /> </p> Steve, I assume you are ignorant and don't know what I am talking about. So you better go watch the Scheuer video and apply it to what Maher and the rest of the politicians are saying. If you still don't get it, I will explain it to you.

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