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		<title>By: Seth Roberts</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70353</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post. I didn&#039;t start off interested in this subject but you&#039;ve made me interested by writing about it so well.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I didn&#39;t start off interested in this subject but you&#39;ve made me interested by writing about it so well.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Your wrongheaded policies about Israel are a big reason our country is in Iraq, how do you answer?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know what you&#039;re saying, but remember that the real crime the Lobby is being accused of is not of having wrongheaded policies. That&#039;s pretty common. It&#039;s of corrupting the system so that rightheaded policies can not emerge out of the democratic discussion. It&#039;s of abusing their position of great power. Ultimately, it&#039;s of having no respect for the host society.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Your wrongheaded policies about Israel are a big reason our country is in Iraq, how do you answer?&quot;</p>
<p>I know what you&#39;re saying, but remember that the real crime the Lobby is being accused of is not of having wrongheaded policies. That&#39;s pretty common. It&#39;s of corrupting the system so that rightheaded policies can not emerge out of the democratic discussion. It&#39;s of abusing their position of great power. Ultimately, it&#39;s of having no respect for the host society.</p>
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		<title>By: James Morris</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70355</link>
		<dc:creator>James Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Weiss,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here is a link for the CBS &#039;60 Minutes&#039; email which conveys that the executive producer (Jeff Fager) is refusing to do a segment on the Mearsheimer/Walt book:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;60 Minutes&#039; refusing to cover Mearsheimer/Walt book:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=77703&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think &#039;explode&#039; was the most accurate description. The AEI moderator was trying to cut me off after I had responded to Dore Gold when I had conveyed that the US was tragically attacked at the World Trade Center on 9/11 (and earlier in 1993) because of US support for Israel&#039;s brutal oppression of the Palestinians and that such was also conveyed in James Bamford&#039;s &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; book (simply look up &#039;Israel as a terrorist motivation&#039; in the index). Ambassador Gold had earlier mentioned in his presentation that Israel had nothing to do with 9/11 (wording to that effect). In addition, I was trying to ask JINSA/PNAC associated Neoconservative Richard Perle why he had basically lied to Congressman Walter Jones when he had asked Mr. Perle about his association with the &#039;A Clean Break&#039; document during a Congressional hearing (see the following URL):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/04/operating-off-different-agenda.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &#039;A Clean Break&#039; document is addressed on pages 261-269/321 of Bamford&#039;s &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; book (see the following URL):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;A Clean Break&#039; (from James Bamford&#039;s &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; book): &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=28769&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The paperback version of &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; includes an additional section about the ongoing AIPAC espionage case which the pro-Israel biased US press/media is hardly covering either. Stephen Green is mentioned in that additional chapter (his name in referenced in the index) as the FBI brought him in as a consultant after writing various books and articles to include the following one which mentions Mr. Perle as well:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Serving Two Flags:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-green.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bamford&#039;s &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; is shown in the right margin of the following URL which includes the transcript of the exchange with 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton about how 9/11 tragically took place because of US support for Israel (see the &#039;What Motivated the 9/11 Hijackers?&#039; video which is linked at the upper left there):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-support-for.html &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Weiss,</p>
<p>Here is a link for the CBS &#39;60 Minutes&#39; email which conveys that the executive producer (Jeff Fager) is refusing to do a segment on the Mearsheimer/Walt book:</p>
<p>&#39;60 Minutes&#39; refusing to cover Mearsheimer/Walt book:</p>
<p>http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=77703</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think &#39;explode&#39; was the most accurate description. The AEI moderator was trying to cut me off after I had responded to Dore Gold when I had conveyed that the US was tragically attacked at the World Trade Center on 9/11 (and earlier in 1993) because of US support for Israel&#39;s brutal oppression of the Palestinians and that such was also conveyed in James Bamford&#39;s &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; book (simply look up &#39;Israel as a terrorist motivation&#39; in the index). Ambassador Gold had earlier mentioned in his presentation that Israel had nothing to do with 9/11 (wording to that effect). In addition, I was trying to ask JINSA/PNAC associated Neoconservative Richard Perle why he had basically lied to Congressman Walter Jones when he had asked Mr. Perle about his association with the &#39;A Clean Break&#39; document during a Congressional hearing (see the following URL):</p>
<p>http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/04/operating-off-different-agenda.html</p>
<p>The &#39;A Clean Break&#39; document is addressed on pages 261-269/321 of Bamford&#39;s &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; book (see the following URL):</p>
<p>&#39;A Clean Break&#39; (from James Bamford&#39;s &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; book): </p>
<p>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=28769</p>
<p>The paperback version of &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; includes an additional section about the ongoing AIPAC espionage case which the pro-Israel biased US press/media is hardly covering either. Stephen Green is mentioned in that additional chapter (his name in referenced in the index) as the FBI brought him in as a consultant after writing various books and articles to include the following one which mentions Mr. Perle as well:</p>
<p>Serving Two Flags:</p>
<p>http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-green.html</p>
<p>Bamford&#39;s &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; is shown in the right margin of the following URL which includes the transcript of the exchange with 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton about how 9/11 tragically took place because of US support for Israel (see the &#39;What Motivated the 9/11 Hijackers?&#39; video which is linked at the upper left there):</p>
<p>The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel </p>
<p>http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-support-for.html </p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70356</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Truth in Palestine&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil sympathizes with the Palestinians. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Me, too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But differently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real rescue will come from a Palestinian leader with integrity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Before gaining independence, the leadership must steer the society to an internal peace and moderation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like Iraq, which gained independence too early, and slipped into the tyranny Baathi style, Palestinian leaders have used all outside assistance for war and terror.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A pre-independence policy should create a just society, which gives up the revenge and terror.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The revolutionary Saddam Husseins of Palestine are not the right prescription for a peaceful Palestinian future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let us not support them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let us support the real Palestinian Abraham Lincolns.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth in Palestine</p>
<p>Phil sympathizes with the Palestinians. </p>
<p>Me, too.</p>
<p>But differently.</p>
<p>The real rescue will come from a Palestinian leader with integrity.</p>
<p>Before gaining independence, the leadership must steer the society to an internal peace and moderation.</p>
<p>Like Iraq, which gained independence too early, and slipped into the tyranny Baathi style, Palestinian leaders have used all outside assistance for war and terror.</p>
<p>A pre-independence policy should create a just society, which gives up the revenge and terror.</p>
<p>The revolutionary Saddam Husseins of Palestine are not the right prescription for a peaceful Palestinian future.</p>
<p>Let us not support them.</p>
<p>Let us support the real Palestinian Abraham Lincolns.</p>
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		<title>By: James Morris</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70357</link>
		<dc:creator>James Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a footnote to my comment above.. The following article conveys how Bamford&#039;s &#039;A Pretext for War&#039; book had such an effect on Congressman Walt Jones in it was instrumental in turning him against the Iraq quagmire:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Three Conversions of Walter B. Jones:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2006/01/the_three_conversions_of_walter_b_jones.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More on Mearsheimer &amp; Walt:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a footnote to my comment above.. The following article conveys how Bamford&#39;s &#39;A Pretext for War&#39; book had such an effect on Congressman Walt Jones in it was instrumental in turning him against the Iraq quagmire:</p>
<p>The Three Conversions of Walter B. Jones:</p>
<p>http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2006/01/the_three_conversions_of_walter_b_jones.html</p>
<p>More on Mearsheimer &amp; Walt:</p>
<p>http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800</p>
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		<title>By: Oarwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oarwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, sorry to cavil, but this sounds a little like noblesse oblige:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We must accept our new status as principals in the U.S., and find a spiritual/political raison-d&#039;etre that takes greater account of other peoples, for instance Arab societies and the American communities that have produced the foot soldiers of this war.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I view all hortatory statements (even my own) with suspicion.  Let&#039;s just end the lies and demonstrate media complicity in disseminating agitprop (so that never again will lies lead us to war), and call it a day. But I know your heart&#039;s in the right place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, describing the text as &quot;exalted&quot; makes it sound a bit like Holy Writ. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My prediction:  The book will be largely ignored (other than a few obligatory denunciations), but will be read by its target audience.  Mention of the book will be considered polarizing, and therefore anathema.  Eventually it will be regarded in the same way Carroll Quigley&#039;s &#039;Tragedy &amp; Hope&#039; is regarded: true, sobering, but largely irrelevant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, sorry to cavil, but this sounds a little like noblesse oblige:</p>
<p>&quot;We must accept our new status as principals in the U.S., and find a spiritual/political raison-d&#39;etre that takes greater account of other peoples, for instance Arab societies and the American communities that have produced the foot soldiers of this war.&quot;</p>
<p>I view all hortatory statements (even my own) with suspicion.  Let&#39;s just end the lies and demonstrate media complicity in disseminating agitprop (so that never again will lies lead us to war), and call it a day. But I know your heart&#39;s in the right place.</p>
<p>Also, describing the text as &quot;exalted&quot; makes it sound a bit like Holy Writ. </p>
<p>My prediction:  The book will be largely ignored (other than a few obligatory denunciations), but will be read by its target audience.  Mention of the book will be considered polarizing, and therefore anathema.  Eventually it will be regarded in the same way Carroll Quigley&#39;s &#39;Tragedy &amp; Hope&#39; is regarded: true, sobering, but largely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;as  ron paul supporter, let me assure you there is a VERY good chance it will be ignored.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as  ron paul supporter, let me assure you there is a VERY good chance it will be ignored.  </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Mention of the book will be considered polarizing, and therefore anathema.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My expectation as well. Which is odd, because &quot;polarizing&quot; is often exactly what the media finds profitable. But the particular situation of our media rules out any mainstream attention to this.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Mention of the book will be considered polarizing, and therefore anathema.&quot;</p>
<p>My expectation as well. Which is odd, because &quot;polarizing&quot; is often exactly what the media finds profitable. But the particular situation of our media rules out any mainstream attention to this.</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-70361</link>
		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11534 &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;August 31, 2007 &lt;br /&gt;
Showdown Over Iran &lt;br /&gt;
We can stop the coming war with Iran – but concerned Americans must act quickly &lt;br /&gt;
by Justin Raimondo &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--------------------------------------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/9631&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Attacking Iran Would be Madness and a Capital Crime &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By Dave Lindorff &lt;br /&gt;
Created Aug 30 2007 - 9:26am &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;---------------------------------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://counterpunch.org/mcgovern08312007.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Do We Have the Courage to Stop War with Iran?&lt;br /&gt;
By RAY McGOVERN&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11534 </p>
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<p>August 31, 2007 <br />
Showdown Over Iran <br />
We can stop the coming war with Iran – but concerned Americans must act quickly <br />
by Justin Raimondo </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Published on The Smirking Chimp (<a href="http://www.smirkingchimp.com)">link to </a></p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/9631</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to smirkingchimp.com</a></p>
<p>Attacking Iran Would be Madness and a Capital Crime </p>
<p>By Dave Lindorff <br />
Created Aug 30 2007 &#8211; 9:26am </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>http://counterpunch.org/mcgovern08312007.html</p>
<p>
Do We Have the Courage to Stop War with Iran?<br />
By RAY McGOVERN</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Walt &amp; Mearsheimer&#039;s Proof That &#039;Tail Wagged the Dog&#039; Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html&lt;/p&gt;

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<a href="http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to philipweiss.org</a></p>
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