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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Like to draw your attention to this interview with Norman Finkelstein:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=43&amp;ItemID=13796&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like to draw your attention to this interview with Norman Finkelstein:<br />
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		<title>By: Paul E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry I am posting this a second time. It is also at the end of the previous commentary and I think it might get buried. It was considerable work to get the links together.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m glad M&amp;W is having an impact but I know I couldn&#039;t read it. Looking at it on Amazon I was referred to Joel Kovel&#039;s &#039;Overcoming Zionism&#039; and ordered it. Have only had time to read the beginning but I am very pleased with it. It gives a unique (psychoanalytic) point of view on the history and motives of Zionism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then I found that the book, published in England, had been suspended by its US distributer, the U Michigan Press, because of Zionist pressure on the U. It has since been reinstated but the U is now considering whether to end its distribution of all books by the publisher. For news on this see:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29839248&amp;postID=887452129804271410&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also there is the action of UC Irvine Chancellor Michael Drake of revoking the offer to Erwin Chemerinsky to head their new Law School. Here is the excellent editorial on it in the Times:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/opinion/14fri3.html&lt;br /&gt;
and here is Drake&#039;s statement:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.chancellor.uci.edu/lawschool_dean_070913.shtml&lt;br /&gt;
in which he insinuates that Chemerinsky would intimidate the students.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason for this reversal is not known, but the best guess is that it has to do with Chemerinsky&#039;s representation of the family of Rachel Corrie, since nothing else about him seems to be particularly controversal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish there were more people like Richard Drake. Unfortunately the Zionists have usually been successful in intimidating academic institutions.&lt;br /&gt;
See the excerpt from M&amp;W on Amazon, and also DePaul&#039;s dropping of Finkelstein, which happened too recently to be mentioned in the book.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of which reflects on Phil&#039;s strange espousal of elitism. US elites are mostly either deaf and blind, and/or co-opted. I can have no respect for them, especially the &#039;intellectuals&#039; who should know better.&lt;/p&gt;

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Sorry I am posting this a second time. It is also at the end of the previous commentary and I think it might get buried. It was considerable work to get the links together.</p>
<p>I&#39;m glad M&amp;W is having an impact but I know I couldn&#39;t read it. Looking at it on Amazon I was referred to Joel Kovel&#39;s &#39;Overcoming Zionism&#39; and ordered it. Have only had time to read the beginning but I am very pleased with it. It gives a unique (psychoanalytic) point of view on the history and motives of Zionism.</p>
<p>Then I found that the book, published in England, had been suspended by its US distributer, the U Michigan Press, because of Zionist pressure on the U. It has since been reinstated but the U is now considering whether to end its distribution of all books by the publisher. For news on this see:<br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29839248&amp;postID=887452129804271410</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to blogger.com</a></p>
<p>Also there is the action of UC Irvine Chancellor Michael Drake of revoking the offer to Erwin Chemerinsky to head their new Law School. Here is the excellent editorial on it in the Times:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/opinion/14fri3.html<br">link to nytimes.com</a><br /> /><br />
and here is Drake&#39;s statement:<br />
<a href="http://www.chancellor.uci.edu/lawschool_dean_070913.shtml<br">link to chancellor.uci.edu</a><br /> /><br />
in which he insinuates that Chemerinsky would intimidate the students.</p>
<p>The reason for this reversal is not known, but the best guess is that it has to do with Chemerinsky&#39;s representation of the family of Rachel Corrie, since nothing else about him seems to be particularly controversal.</p>
<p>I wish there were more people like Richard Drake. Unfortunately the Zionists have usually been successful in intimidating academic institutions.<br />
See the excerpt from M&amp;W on Amazon, and also DePaul&#39;s dropping of Finkelstein, which happened too recently to be mentioned in the book.</p>
<p>All of which reflects on Phil&#39;s strange espousal of elitism. US elites are mostly either deaf and blind, and/or co-opted. I can have no respect for them, especially the &#39;intellectuals&#39; who should know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; I&#039;ve lost count over the years of people ruined by these guys. Works suppressed, careers destroyed, reputations ruined.&lt;br /&gt;
They have gone after Finkesltein because he exposed the WJC and other jewish groups over defrauding the swiss banks and europe - they could never take Prof Finkelstien up on his challenge to sue him for defamation because then they would be exposed to cross examination under oath. they are destroying him instead, kudos to the Proff - he is fighting back as best he can.&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s the rub - Israel would sooner reclassify survivors than pay them a decent pension, after an outcry, they get Germany to cough up more money and decide they are survivors after all. Young germans like young Americans, tired of watching their tax $ awarded to the 16th richest country in the world when we have poor people and broken infratstructure here and a future we need to build for our kids.&lt;br /&gt;
These guys never made a poor jew any richer, they don&#039;t make Israel any safer by destroying folks and burning books - They are doing the oposite.  we need to stand up for academics and jounalists and the guy on the street whether we agree with everything they say or not, what is America if not the land of the free? Land of sumb suckers?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#39;ve lost count over the years of people ruined by these guys. Works suppressed, careers destroyed, reputations ruined.<br />
They have gone after Finkesltein because he exposed the WJC and other jewish groups over defrauding the swiss banks and europe &#8211; they could never take Prof Finkelstien up on his challenge to sue him for defamation because then they would be exposed to cross examination under oath. they are destroying him instead, kudos to the Proff &#8211; he is fighting back as best he can.<br />
Here&#39;s the rub &#8211; Israel would sooner reclassify survivors than pay them a decent pension, after an outcry, they get Germany to cough up more money and decide they are survivors after all. Young germans like young Americans, tired of watching their tax $ awarded to the 16th richest country in the world when we have poor people and broken infratstructure here and a future we need to build for our kids.<br />
These guys never made a poor jew any richer, they don&#39;t make Israel any safer by destroying folks and burning books &#8211; They are doing the oposite.  we need to stand up for academics and jounalists and the guy on the street whether we agree with everything they say or not, what is America if not the land of the free? Land of sumb suckers?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Me,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m tired of seeing my tax money awarded to the top 5% of property owners in the US.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not particularly tired of my tax money spent (with guidelines, not micro-management), to support the defense of a vibrant democracy, periodically under military assault.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me,</p>
<p>I&#39;m tired of seeing my tax money awarded to the top 5% of property owners in the US.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not particularly tired of my tax money spent (with guidelines, not micro-management), to support the defense of a vibrant democracy, periodically under military assault.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody who is not financially independent takes a grave risk if he speaks against THE LOBBY.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Crimson Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Conservatism Isn&#039;t What It Used to Be&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I was in the Reagan administration, America had a lively press that never hesitated to take us to task.  Even the “Teflon President” received more brickbats than Bush and Cheney.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The lively press disappeared along with its independence in the media concentration engineered during the Clinton administration.  Shortly thereafter all the liberal news anchors disappeared as well.  Today the US  press a serves as propaganda ministry for the government’s wars and police state. Yet, some conservatives continue to rant on about “the liberal media.”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That other conservative bugaboo, liberal academia, has also been crushed.  Universities once controlled their appointments, but no more.  Recently, the political science faculty at DePaul, a Catholic university, voted to give tenure to the courageous scholar and teacher Norman Finkelstein. The department was unable to make its tenure decision stick over the objections of the Israel Lobby and their conservative allies, who were able to reach in over the heads of the political science department and the College Personnel Committee and force DePaul’s president to block Finkelstein’s tenure. Finkelstein had angered the Israel Lobby with his criticisms of Israel’s misuse of the holocaust sufferings of Jews to oppress the Palestinians and to silence critics.   &lt;br /&gt;
On September 14, 2007, the Los Angeles Times reported that the appointment of the distinguished legal scholar Erwin Chemerinsky as the Dean of a new law school at the University of California at Irvine had been withdrawn by the university’s chancellor, Michael V. Drake, who gave in to the demands of conservatives outside the university.  Conservatives are outraged at Chemerinsky because he criticized Attorney General Gonzales.  In withdrawing Chemerinsky’s appointment, Drake told him: “I didn’t realize there would be conservatives out to get you.”     &lt;br /&gt;
Gonzales is the attorney general who wrote memos justifying torture and denying that the Bush administration was bound by the Geneva Conventions.  Gonzales told a stunned Senate Judiciary Committee that the US Constitution did not provide habeas corpus protection to American citizens.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To experience an attorney general of the US fiercely attacking the US Constitution, rending its every provision, is the most frightening experience of my lifetime. That the head of the legal branch of the executive, sworn to uphold the Constitution, would turn against it in order to enhance unaccountable executive power is a clear impeachable offense.  If anyone anywhere in the world deserved criticism, Gonzales did. But when Chemerinsky unbraided the despicable Gonzales, conservatives rushed to Gonzales’ defense, not to the defense of the American Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems only yesterday that conservatives were complaining about the liberties that liberals took with the Constitution.  Liberals were expanding rights, fancifully perhaps. But today conservatives are curtailing long established rights, such as habeas corpus and protection against self-incrimination.  Conservatives abandoned “original intent” and all of their constitutional scruples once they had a chance to cram more power into the presidency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my conservative days as an academic, I experienced some liberal blackballs. But liberals did not attack academic freedom per se. The new conservatives despise academic freedom and have created organizations to monitor departments of Middle East studies in order to lower the boom on scholars who follow the truth instead of neoconservative ideology or Israeli policy. Today academic freedom has disappeared just like the independent media. No one but powerful organized interest groups has a voice.  In the media truth can only emerge on comic shows like The Colbert Report and Jon Stewart’s The Daily Show.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In years past, conservatives were often shouted down on university campuses by left-wing students. But today speakers disapproved by powerful interest groups are simply disinvited in advance. Even Harvard University has fallen to the new censorship. On September 14, 2007, the Harvard Crimson reported that the Israel Lobby was able to force Harvard University to disinvite three speakers, an Oxford University professor, a DePaul professor, and a Rutgers professor, because they had criticized Israeli policy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In America today, speaking your mind in the media or in academia is a thing of the past. A country that has no voices independent of powerful interests is a country in which freedom is dead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS</p>
<p>When I was in the Reagan administration, America had a lively press that never hesitated to take us to task.  Even the “Teflon President” received more brickbats than Bush and Cheney.</p>
<p>The lively press disappeared along with its independence in the media concentration engineered during the Clinton administration.  Shortly thereafter all the liberal news anchors disappeared as well.  Today the US  press a serves as propaganda ministry for the government’s wars and police state. Yet, some conservatives continue to rant on about “the liberal media.”</p>
<p>That other conservative bugaboo, liberal academia, has also been crushed.  Universities once controlled their appointments, but no more.  Recently, the political science faculty at DePaul, a Catholic university, voted to give tenure to the courageous scholar and teacher Norman Finkelstein. The department was unable to make its tenure decision stick over the objections of the Israel Lobby and their conservative allies, who were able to reach in over the heads of the political science department and the College Personnel Committee and force DePaul’s president to block Finkelstein’s tenure. Finkelstein had angered the Israel Lobby with his criticisms of Israel’s misuse of the holocaust sufferings of Jews to oppress the Palestinians and to silence critics.   <br />
On September 14, 2007, the Los Angeles Times reported that the appointment of the distinguished legal scholar Erwin Chemerinsky as the Dean of a new law school at the University of California at Irvine had been withdrawn by the university’s chancellor, Michael V. Drake, who gave in to the demands of conservatives outside the university.  Conservatives are outraged at Chemerinsky because he criticized Attorney General Gonzales.  In withdrawing Chemerinsky’s appointment, Drake told him: “I didn’t realize there would be conservatives out to get you.”     <br />
Gonzales is the attorney general who wrote memos justifying torture and denying that the Bush administration was bound by the Geneva Conventions.  Gonzales told a stunned Senate Judiciary Committee that the US Constitution did not provide habeas corpus protection to American citizens.  </p>
<p>To experience an attorney general of the US fiercely attacking the US Constitution, rending its every provision, is the most frightening experience of my lifetime. That the head of the legal branch of the executive, sworn to uphold the Constitution, would turn against it in order to enhance unaccountable executive power is a clear impeachable offense.  If anyone anywhere in the world deserved criticism, Gonzales did. But when Chemerinsky unbraided the despicable Gonzales, conservatives rushed to Gonzales’ defense, not to the defense of the American Constitution.</p>
<p>It seems only yesterday that conservatives were complaining about the liberties that liberals took with the Constitution.  Liberals were expanding rights, fancifully perhaps. But today conservatives are curtailing long established rights, such as habeas corpus and protection against self-incrimination.  Conservatives abandoned “original intent” and all of their constitutional scruples once they had a chance to cram more power into the presidency.</p>
<p>In my conservative days as an academic, I experienced some liberal blackballs. But liberals did not attack academic freedom per se. The new conservatives despise academic freedom and have created organizations to monitor departments of Middle East studies in order to lower the boom on scholars who follow the truth instead of neoconservative ideology or Israeli policy. Today academic freedom has disappeared just like the independent media. No one but powerful organized interest groups has a voice.  In the media truth can only emerge on comic shows like The Colbert Report and Jon Stewart’s The Daily Show.</p>
<p>In years past, conservatives were often shouted down on university campuses by left-wing students. But today speakers disapproved by powerful interest groups are simply disinvited in advance. Even Harvard University has fallen to the new censorship. On September 14, 2007, the Harvard Crimson reported that the Israel Lobby was able to force Harvard University to disinvite three speakers, an Oxford University professor, a DePaul professor, and a Rutgers professor, because they had criticized Israeli policy.</p>
<p>In America today, speaking your mind in the media or in academia is a thing of the past. A country that has no voices independent of powerful interests is a country in which freedom is dead.</p>
<p>Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: <a href="mailto:PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com">PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a link to an article about Alan Greenspan:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/2007/09/12/Alan-Greenspan-Age-of-Turbulence&lt;br /&gt;
To understand where Alan Greenspan is coming from, it&#039;s important to know that as a young man he was one of Ayn Rand&#039;s most favored disciples and that her magnum opus, &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; could  be said to be his &quot;bible&quot;.  Outside of the parameters of human relations affirmed by all major faiths, it is a book whose philosophy Gore Vidal described as “nearly perfect in its immorality.” To make a long story short, Greenspan&#039;s years at the Fed have not been about the economy, which is now beginning to unravel: these years have been about Greenspan, who is now about to make a lot of money writing and speaking. And if what he writes or what he says about current affairs destabilizes that economy... hard cheese (that&#039;s British for tough shit).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a link to an article about Alan Greenspan:<br />
<a href="http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/2007/09/12/Alan-Greenspan-Age-of-Turbulence<br">link to portfolio.com</a><br /> /><br />
To understand where Alan Greenspan is coming from, it&#39;s important to know that as a young man he was one of Ayn Rand&#39;s most favored disciples and that her magnum opus, &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; could  be said to be his &quot;bible&quot;.  Outside of the parameters of human relations affirmed by all major faiths, it is a book whose philosophy Gore Vidal described as “nearly perfect in its immorality.” To make a long story short, Greenspan&#39;s years at the Fed have not been about the economy, which is now beginning to unravel: these years have been about Greenspan, who is now about to make a lot of money writing and speaking. And if what he writes or what he says about current affairs destabilizes that economy&#8230; hard cheese (that&#39;s British for tough shit).</p>
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		<title>By: evanj</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was an inadvertent typo in Richard Witty&#039;s post. For &#039;vibrant democracy&#039; read &#039;vibrant ethnocracy, with a healthy dose of theocracy&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an inadvertent typo in Richard Witty&#39;s post. For &#39;vibrant democracy&#39; read &#39;vibrant ethnocracy, with a healthy dose of theocracy&#39;.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpio</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpio</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey, at least Greenspan cleared up the whole Iraq invasion thing: it really was all about oil, not about Israel, never had a thing to do w Israel, dont even think about looking behind the curtain...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Cloud Cuckoo Land</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Cuckoo Land</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;to support the defense of a vibrant democracy, periodically under military assault.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;God help us all if to be a liberal humanist today means to be a Richard Witty...&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>God help us all if to be a liberal humanist today means to be a Richard Witty&#8230;</p>
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