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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68749</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Backbone is NOT the equivalent of refusal to negotiate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of the ways that win-win contracts are constructed, are by self-definition of what winning is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It does NOT equate to conquering, or dominance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, backbone results from thorough and benevolent analysis first, and not from arbitrariness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Arbitrariness is something other than backbone.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backbone is NOT the equivalent of refusal to negotiate.</p>
<p>One of the ways that win-win contracts are constructed, are by self-definition of what winning is.</p>
<p>It does NOT equate to conquering, or dominance.</p>
<p>Hopefully, backbone results from thorough and benevolent analysis first, and not from arbitrariness.</p>
<p>Arbitrariness is something other than backbone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68750</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Take away the billions in American subsidies and arms giveaways, then find out how tough the Israelis really are. That&#039;s the only thing that saved them in 1973.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hezbollah would probably eat them for lunch absent Israeli access to American weapons.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take away the billions in American subsidies and arms giveaways, then find out how tough the Israelis really are. That&#39;s the only thing that saved them in 1973.</p>
<p>Hezbollah would probably eat them for lunch absent Israeli access to American weapons.  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68751</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is that your desire, that they be eaten for lunch?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hezbollah is a militia. It can&#039;t even aim missiles. It can ONLY shoot randomly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only thing that it is good at is guerilla fighting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they stayed in Lebanon consistently, then Israel would stay in Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that your desire, that they be eaten for lunch?</p>
<p>Hezbollah is a militia. It can&#39;t even aim missiles. It can ONLY shoot randomly.</p>
<p>The only thing that it is good at is guerilla fighting.</p>
<p>If they stayed in Lebanon consistently, then Israel would stay in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have no animus toward Israel outside of the fact that, thanks to people like you, they are a millstone wrapped around the neck of America.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Forty some years ago I was completely for Israel.  Having been witness to history since then...The USS Liberty...watching those who were hating on American servicemen line up to give blood for the Israeli Army...Arab oil embargo...Pollard...AIPAC...Derschowitz&#039;s contempt for pre 1900 America...I no longer drink the Jewish Kool Aid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way, the West Bank is not part of Israel so maybe the IDF should try staying in Israel before they complain about Hezbollah &quot;kidnapping&quot;(!!!) their soldiers from outside of Israel.  Silly me thinking that &quot;kidnapping&quot; was something done to kids, whereas soldiers, especially big brave macho bullying IDF types get captured.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no animus toward Israel outside of the fact that, thanks to people like you, they are a millstone wrapped around the neck of America.</p>
<p>Forty some years ago I was completely for Israel.  Having been witness to history since then&#8230;The USS Liberty&#8230;watching those who were hating on American servicemen line up to give blood for the Israeli Army&#8230;Arab oil embargo&#8230;Pollard&#8230;AIPAC&#8230;Derschowitz&#39;s contempt for pre 1900 America&#8230;I no longer drink the Jewish Kool Aid.</p>
<p>By the way, the West Bank is not part of Israel so maybe the IDF should try staying in Israel before they complain about Hezbollah &quot;kidnapping&quot;(!!!) their soldiers from outside of Israel.  Silly me thinking that &quot;kidnapping&quot; was something done to kids, whereas soldiers, especially big brave macho bullying IDF types get captured.  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68753</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In your &quot;wake up&quot;, you exceeded the facts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ve all had emotional events in our lives that shook our assumptions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally witnessed a police riot during an anti-war demonstration in 1970, that soured my view of police for two decades.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a different view of police in general now, though individual cases certainly turn my stomach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In journalism, I was able to attend a small press conference at the Nicaraguan embassy in DC in 1980, shortly after the Nicaraguan revolution overthrowing US client Somoza. At the press conference was Daniel Ortega&#039;s brother (a Marxist Leninist) and also representatives from liberation theology Catholic priests.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I read the Washington Post&#039;s assessment of the press conference and political &quot;context&quot; the following day. I was appalled that they focused ONLY on the remarks by Ortega&#039;s brother as an indication of the association with Moscow and Cuba. They neglected the visionary poets and priests.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, a year later, the priest and the poet that presented at the press conference had been imprisoned, and one executed, and the Marxist-Leninists had purged any liberation theologists that objected to their policies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Research in context bears out truth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Research with an emotional bias, bears out prejudice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You may call my attitude that Israel has a right to exist without random violence on its civilians as a prejudice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t. Thats what I call humane.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Us liberals simultaneously assert the rights and goals of multiple parties, see clearly.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your &quot;wake up&quot;, you exceeded the facts.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve all had emotional events in our lives that shook our assumptions.</p>
<p>I personally witnessed a police riot during an anti-war demonstration in 1970, that soured my view of police for two decades.</p>
<p>I have a different view of police in general now, though individual cases certainly turn my stomach.</p>
<p>In journalism, I was able to attend a small press conference at the Nicaraguan embassy in DC in 1980, shortly after the Nicaraguan revolution overthrowing US client Somoza. At the press conference was Daniel Ortega&#39;s brother (a Marxist Leninist) and also representatives from liberation theology Catholic priests.</p>
<p>I read the Washington Post&#39;s assessment of the press conference and political &quot;context&quot; the following day. I was appalled that they focused ONLY on the remarks by Ortega&#39;s brother as an indication of the association with Moscow and Cuba. They neglected the visionary poets and priests.</p>
<p>But, a year later, the priest and the poet that presented at the press conference had been imprisoned, and one executed, and the Marxist-Leninists had purged any liberation theologists that objected to their policies.</p>
<p>Research in context bears out truth.</p>
<p>Research with an emotional bias, bears out prejudice.</p>
<p>You may call my attitude that Israel has a right to exist without random violence on its civilians as a prejudice.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t. Thats what I call humane.</p>
<p>Us liberals simultaneously assert the rights and goals of multiple parties, see clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You may call my attitude that Christian Americans have a right not to be dragged into the problems created by Israeli expansionism inhumane.  I don&#039;t.  I call it patriotic Americanism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s something that is completely alien to Israeli loyalists posturing themselves as liberals.  Isn&#039;t it odd that you don&#039;t extend your liberal concerns as to what is humane to Palestinean apartment dwellers randomly killed when Israeli gunships rocket their apartment building.  Obviously your humanitarianism extends no further than the ends of your own tribe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What you really are Mr Witty is a phony American and a phony liberal.  You&#039;re a Zionist.  I hope you make Aliyah soon.  And this concludes my side of our dialogue forever.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may call my attitude that Christian Americans have a right not to be dragged into the problems created by Israeli expansionism inhumane.  I don&#39;t.  I call it patriotic Americanism.</p>
<p>That&#39;s something that is completely alien to Israeli loyalists posturing themselves as liberals.  Isn&#39;t it odd that you don&#39;t extend your liberal concerns as to what is humane to Palestinean apartment dwellers randomly killed when Israeli gunships rocket their apartment building.  Obviously your humanitarianism extends no further than the ends of your own tribe.</p>
<p>What you really are Mr Witty is a phony American and a phony liberal.  You&#39;re a Zionist.  I hope you make Aliyah soon.  And this concludes my side of our dialogue forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68755</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Simultaneously with the right and goals of post-1948 Israel to exist (with no borders, no constitution?) without random violence on its civilians, what are the rights and goals of Palestinians, and especially so in the matchup between stones and tanks and bulldozers (paid for my Americans)?  I am not&lt;br /&gt;
unsympathetic to either party. I am just trying to see the big&lt;br /&gt;
picture, especially since I pay taxes, have been an American combat soldier, and I have many relatives in combat in the Middle East.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Simultaneously with the right and goals of post-1948 Israel to exist (with no borders, no constitution?) without random violence on its civilians, what are the rights and goals of Palestinians, and especially so in the matchup between stones and tanks and bulldozers (paid for my Americans)?  I am not<br />
unsympathetic to either party. I am just trying to see the big<br />
picture, especially since I pay taxes, have been an American combat soldier, and I have many relatives in combat in the Middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68756</link>
		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israeli rudeness and toughness is generally considered overcompensation for the common Eastern European view that Jews are weak and effeminate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Jews were so important economically in Commonwealth that merchants considered it advisable to appear harmless, and it is not surprising that typically Eastern European Jewish characteristics like kvetshing are associated in the Polish mind with femininity&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli rudeness and toughness is generally considered overcompensation for the common Eastern European view that Jews are weak and effeminate.</p>
<p>The Jews were so important economically in Commonwealth that merchants considered it advisable to appear harmless, and it is not surprising that typically Eastern European Jewish characteristics like kvetshing are associated in the Polish mind with femininity</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You were warned, Chuck.  Under no circumstances try to conduct a rational debate with Mr. Witty for that way lies madness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What you are up against is not his self-styled &quot;liberal, humane Zionism&quot; but pure zealotry.   Mr. Witty&#039;s brand of Zionism is a secular religion, fundamentalist in nature: it is immune to logic or facts. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or morality, for that matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were warned, Chuck.  Under no circumstances try to conduct a rational debate with Mr. Witty for that way lies madness.</p>
<p>What you are up against is not his self-styled &quot;liberal, humane Zionism&quot; but pure zealotry.   Mr. Witty&#39;s brand of Zionism is a secular religion, fundamentalist in nature: it is immune to logic or facts. </p>
<p>Or morality, for that matter. </p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/an-israeli-on-h.html/comment-page-1#comment-68758</link>
		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My stepmother taugh in the NYC public schools.  she said the israeli kids were always the craziest&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My stepmother taugh in the NYC public schools.  she said the israeli kids were always the craziest</p>
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