Comments on: On Upper Broadway: Mearsheimer Unbound http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:18:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Merril http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69067 Merril Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69067 <p>OMG - Did you get to touch him too?</p> OMG – Did you get to touch him too?

]]> By: David http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69068 David Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69068 <p>I'm glad to hear the converstation is turning to the media. I've sensed a tendency on their part to shy away from discussing that part of the lobby and concentrate on the political wing. It's the hardest aspect of the lobby to talk about because, unlike AIPAC ("just another NRA") it really is pernicious. The distortions it introduces into the American public discussion can't be called a normal part of the democratic process.</p> I'm glad to hear the converstation is turning to the media. I've sensed a tendency on their part to shy away from discussing that part of the lobby and concentrate on the political wing. It's the hardest aspect of the lobby to talk about because, unlike AIPAC ("just another NRA") it really is pernicious. The distortions it introduces into the American public discussion can't be called a normal part of the democratic process.

]]> By: LanceThruster http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69069 LanceThruster Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69069 <p>It's interesting to see the change in tactics. First, W&M were going to be at the forefront of reawekening the "new anti-Semitism." Now, their supposedly sloppy scholarship is said to not even be worth the time of the pro-Zionist camp. What makes the situation all the more laughable is that the attempt to bury the W&M book was unsuccessful so the new official narrative is that no effort was ever made to try to suppress the book.</p> It's interesting to see the change in tactics. First, W&M were going to be at the forefront of reawekening the "new anti-Semitism." Now, their supposedly sloppy scholarship is said to not even be worth the time of the pro-Zionist camp. What makes the situation all the more laughable is that the attempt to bury the W&M book was unsuccessful so the new official narrative is that no effort was ever made to try to suppress the book.

]]> By: The Lobby http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69070 The Lobby Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69070 <p>If we wanted to suppress the book we could have suppressed the book. Don't you know we are all powerful and control everything?</p> If we wanted to suppress the book we could have suppressed the book. Don't you know we are all powerful and control everything?

]]> By: MM http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69071 MM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69071 <p>When your opponent's argument is just too good, see if you can mischaracterize it to a weaker form, and then criticize that instead. Then, stupid people might think you bested your opponent.</p> <p>Did you know The Lobby is the best debater on his entire 9th grade forensics team?</p> When your opponent's argument is just too good, see if you can mischaracterize it to a weaker form, and then criticize that instead. Then, stupid people might think you bested your opponent.

Did you know The Lobby is the best debater on his entire 9th grade forensics team?

]]> By: delia ruhe http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69072 delia ruhe Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69072 <p>I'm not a great fan of the Realist paradigm in IR, but I'm starting to get some real respect for W+M. By the sounds of your report, they focussed on their most irrefutable point -- with lots of evidence and logic to back it up -- that it has been impossible to have that crucially necessary debate about the US in the MEast because the lobby has been preventing it.</p> <p>The war in Iraq is long lost, and the upcoming one in Iran is suicide for US policy in the MEast. The lobby is gonna hafta take a good share of the blame for that.</p> I'm not a great fan of the Realist paradigm in IR, but I'm starting to get some real respect for W+M. By the sounds of your report, they focussed on their most irrefutable point — with lots of evidence and logic to back it up — that it has been impossible to have that crucially necessary debate about the US in the MEast because the lobby has been preventing it.

The war in Iraq is long lost, and the upcoming one in Iran is suicide for US policy in the MEast. The lobby is gonna hafta take a good share of the blame for that.

]]> By: Steve Jewishy http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69073 Steve Jewishy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69073 <p>"I saw one guy with a yarmulke and one other Jewishy guy who got up and left early. Ho hum."</p> <p>Oh hum indeed. </p> <p><br /> The Jewshy guy was you, no?</p> <p><br /> Wise Wise is morally inflamed again, ho hum.<br /> </p> "I saw one guy with a yarmulke and one other Jewishy guy who got up and left early. Ho hum."

Oh hum indeed.

The Jewshy guy was you, no?

Wise Wise is morally inflamed again, ho hum.

]]> By: Wallace Brand http://mondoweiss.net/2007/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-69074 Wallace Brand Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69074 <p>Mearsheimer comments that Israel when Israel learned of Bush's plan to invade Iraq, it suggested that he attack Iran first. Wait a minute! Isn't it his thesis that it was Israel's ides to attack Iraq?<br /> http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=35&x_article=1365</p> Mearsheimer comments that Israel when Israel learned of Bush's plan to invade Iraq, it suggested that he attack Iran first. Wait a minute! Isn't it his thesis that it was Israel's ides to attack Iraq?
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/10/10/walt-and-mearsh-2.html#comment-69075 <p>Mearsheimer comments that Israel when Israel learned of Bush's plan to invade Iraq, it suggested that he attack Iran first. Wait a minute! Isn't it his thesis that it was Israel's ides to attack Iraq?<br /> http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=35&x_article=1365</p> Mearsheimer comments that Israel when Israel learned of Bush's plan to invade Iraq, it suggested that he attack Iran first. Wait a minute! Isn't it his thesis that it was Israel's ides to attack Iraq?