Comments on: Elite Opinion vs. Populists; CFR Veers on Walt & Mearsheimer http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/elite-opinion-v.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 21:50:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: David http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/elite-opinion-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-68301 David Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/11/03/elite-opinion-v.html#comment-68301 <p>The sympathetic popular response to M&W owes a lot to the issue of what were the reasons behind 9-11. I think Americans always sensed that -- as much as they'd like to believe it -- the story that "they hate our freedom" just wouldn't wash. But this was the central tenet of the Zionist line and was strictly enforced by everyone from Friedman to Krauthammer. All attempts to discuss a linkage to policy in Palestine were met with screams of "antisemitism" (starting with British Foreign Minister Jack Straw's comments immediately after the bombings). As a result, we were denied any meaningful discussion of the reasons behind our disaster.</p> <p>Now M&W come along and insist that Americans be given the actual words of Al Qaeda explaining their motivation. And the link to Zionism is so blatant that the behavior of the Friedmans et al. can't be explained as a mere difference in interpretation. It seems more like a direct attempt to deceive.</p> <p>(M&W's earlier response to critics, "Setting the Record Straight" is probably the best short summary of everything we know on the subject of "why they hate us.")<br /> http://www.israellobbybook.com/Setting_the_Record_Straight.pdf<br /> pp 16-17</p> The sympathetic popular response to M&W owes a lot to the issue of what were the reasons behind 9-11. I think Americans always sensed that — as much as they'd like to believe it — the story that "they hate our freedom" just wouldn't wash. But this was the central tenet of the Zionist line and was strictly enforced by everyone from Friedman to Krauthammer. All attempts to discuss a linkage to policy in Palestine were met with screams of "antisemitism" (starting with British Foreign Minister Jack Straw's comments immediately after the bombings). As a result, we were denied any meaningful discussion of the reasons behind our disaster.

Now M&W come along and insist that Americans be given the actual words of Al Qaeda explaining their motivation. And the link to Zionism is so blatant that the behavior of the Friedmans et al. can't be explained as a mere difference in interpretation. It seems more like a direct attempt to deceive.

(M&W's earlier response to critics, "Setting the Record Straight" is probably the best short summary of everything we know on the subject of "why they hate us.")
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]]> By: Reblev http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/elite-opinion-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-68302 Reblev Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/11/03/elite-opinion-v.html#comment-68302 <p>"This is dangerous sociology: the pro-Israel people are gathered in the elitist turrets, ready to release boiling oil on the masses." Very good point.</p> <p>The scary thing is, it didn't take a long time to go from the Weimar Republic to the Third Reich. The Germans were very militaristic, true, but a very civilized and evolved people as well. Many had become poor very quickly, however. Look at the economy in this country now, and the effect that globalization has had on many people's jobs.</p> <p>The French Revolution evolved more slowly, but I see that many of the neocons have Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" attitude, when it comes to viewing people unlike themselves. How many of them have sent sons or daughters to Iraq? How many of them care to send one?</p> "This is dangerous sociology: the pro-Israel people are gathered in the elitist turrets, ready to release boiling oil on the masses." Very good point.

The scary thing is, it didn't take a long time to go from the Weimar Republic to the Third Reich. The Germans were very militaristic, true, but a very civilized and evolved people as well. Many had become poor very quickly, however. Look at the economy in this country now, and the effect that globalization has had on many people's jobs.

The French Revolution evolved more slowly, but I see that many of the neocons have Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" attitude, when it comes to viewing people unlike themselves. How many of them have sent sons or daughters to Iraq? How many of them care to send one?

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