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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Foreign Affairs&#8217; Savages Walt &amp; Mearsheimer&#8217;s &#8216;Methodology&#8217; and Misses the Point</title>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68317</link>
		<dc:creator>carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That dumb bitch probably voted for Bush.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dumb bitch probably voted for Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68318</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The president of the Council on Foreign Relations is Richard N. Haass. Before him it was Lesley Gelb. No one on the staff is ever going to write a piece discussing the power of the Jewish lobby.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, notice how, like most of the critics, Mead refuses to bring up the subject of UNCONDITIONAL support. This is at the center of M&amp;W&#039;s argument and is repeated on almost every page of the book. But most critics -- particularly from the left -- don&#039;t want to see it because it is so embarrassing. Why is AfPN no different from the ZOA in insisting that American support never be made conditional on Israel ending the occupation? Does it have something to do with a fear of allowing the gentile community into the decision-making process? That all will be lost if control is taken out of exclusively Jewish hands?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course it does. (Go back and read the comments of poor ToughDove if you need a refresher on mentality of the frightened tribalist.)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president of the Council on Foreign Relations is Richard N. Haass. Before him it was Lesley Gelb. No one on the staff is ever going to write a piece discussing the power of the Jewish lobby.</p>
<p>BTW, notice how, like most of the critics, Mead refuses to bring up the subject of UNCONDITIONAL support. This is at the center of M&amp;W&#39;s argument and is repeated on almost every page of the book. But most critics &#8212; particularly from the left &#8212; don&#39;t want to see it because it is so embarrassing. Why is AfPN no different from the ZOA in insisting that American support never be made conditional on Israel ending the occupation? Does it have something to do with a fear of allowing the gentile community into the decision-making process? That all will be lost if control is taken out of exclusively Jewish hands?</p>
<p>Of course it does. (Go back and read the comments of poor ToughDove if you need a refresher on mentality of the frightened tribalist.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68319</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The reason the review described the research as shoddy, was because it was.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, the reason it is relevant is that Walt/Mearsheimer promote their credentials as some basis of reliability.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You set your intellectual bar too damn low, Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Concise examination of political interactions is NOT new territory Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You yourself are as fixated on defending Walt/Mearsheimer as you complain about neo-conservatives defending Israel right or wrong unconditionally.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the review described the research as shoddy, was because it was.</p>
<p>And, the reason it is relevant is that Walt/Mearsheimer promote their credentials as some basis of reliability.</p>
<p>You set your intellectual bar too damn low, Phil.</p>
<p>Concise examination of political interactions is NOT new territory Phil.</p>
<p>You yourself are as fixated on defending Walt/Mearsheimer as you complain about neo-conservatives defending Israel right or wrong unconditionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68320</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Americans for Peace Now part of AIPAC?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If so, then AIPAC is a big tent.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Americans for Peace Now part of AIPAC?</p>
<p>If so, then AIPAC is a big tent.</p>
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		<title>By: ej</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68321</link>
		<dc:creator>ej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mead is touted as the &#039;Henry A. Kissinger Senior Fellow for U.S. Foreign Policy ...&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
Somebody has a weird sense of humour.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mead is touted as the &#39;Henry A. Kissinger Senior Fellow for U.S. Foreign Policy &#8230;&#39;.<br />
Somebody has a weird sense of humour.</p>
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		<title>By: Oarwell</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68322</link>
		<dc:creator>Oarwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would you like to end all this craziness?  Do you want to change the world within weeks?  Here&#039;s how-- Ron Paul&#039;s first action as president:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDM8US25xXg&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you like to end all this craziness?  Do you want to change the world within weeks?  Here&#39;s how&#8211; Ron Paul&#39;s first action as president:</p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDM8US25xXg</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68323</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say that I thought the review was quite good in its own ways, it is pushing to advance the discussion via constructive criticism.  I think that Walter Russell Mead does point of a few things that aren&#039;t really issues, but he accepts a lot of the aspects of the book and calls out for more study of these issues to illuminate them.  The Israel Lobby is a pioneering book and thus it is expected that it will get some connections wrong, and weight the importance of various aspects incorrect, especially when it strays from the area of expertise of the authors.  We need more studies of this topic area, and Mead is basically calling for them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that Mead comes across as unnecessarily harsh, but behind some of the surface tone, he is actually furthering the discussion in a productive direction.  I hope that foreign policy scholars take Mead up on some of his recommendations for additional research on this topic that can further illuminate the subject.  Mearsheimer and Walt can&#039;t singlehandedly change the nature of the relationship between Israel, American Jewry, and U.S. Foreign Policy in the Middle East.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I thought the review was quite good in its own ways, it is pushing to advance the discussion via constructive criticism.  I think that Walter Russell Mead does point of a few things that aren&#39;t really issues, but he accepts a lot of the aspects of the book and calls out for more study of these issues to illuminate them.  The Israel Lobby is a pioneering book and thus it is expected that it will get some connections wrong, and weight the importance of various aspects incorrect, especially when it strays from the area of expertise of the authors.  We need more studies of this topic area, and Mead is basically calling for them.</p>
<p>I think that Mead comes across as unnecessarily harsh, but behind some of the surface tone, he is actually furthering the discussion in a productive direction.  I hope that foreign policy scholars take Mead up on some of his recommendations for additional research on this topic that can further illuminate the subject.  Mearsheimer and Walt can&#39;t singlehandedly change the nature of the relationship between Israel, American Jewry, and U.S. Foreign Policy in the Middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: Kegger</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68324</link>
		<dc:creator>Kegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil sounds like a real pill at a party.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil sounds like a real pill at a party.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68325</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard Witty - Mead claims that some limited aspects of the book are shoddy, not the whole thing as you appear to be interpreting thing.  You seem to be lacking the precision that you call for in others.  Just saying.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Witty &#8211; Mead claims that some limited aspects of the book are shoddy, not the whole thing as you appear to be interpreting thing.  You seem to be lacking the precision that you call for in others.  Just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: syriacomment</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/foreign-affairs-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-68326</link>
		<dc:creator>syriacomment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The editor of a premier pan-Arab daily newspaper is warning with the eventual departure of American forces from Iraq, the vacuum will be filled by Syria and Iran, and &quot;with friends like these, who needs enemies?&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The commentary comes from Tariq Alhomayed, editor-in-chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, the Arabic-language newspaper that is printed in 12 cities on four continents and also features an English-language website. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The editorial was highlighted by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which monitors media reports throughout the Middle East. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;In an editorial titled &#039;[The] American Withdrawal and the Second Stage,&#039; … Alhomayed warned of what might happen after the U.S. withdraws its forces from Iraq,&quot; MEMRI said. &quot;He argued that Iraq would be taken over by Iran and Syria, which are seeking to dominate the Middle East, and that the result would be the spread of extremism and violence throughout the region.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Both Iran and Syria are &quot;getting ready&quot; for the American departure, he said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Iran has, in fact, been present in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein&#039;s regime. As for Syria, it has been one of the disrupters of the Iraqi project however from afar,&quot; he said. &quot;Nevertheless, what is new today is Damascus&#039;s endeavor to reorganize the Baathist rather than the Sunni elements as is commonly believed, in order to ensure Syrian influence in Iraq.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He said while Syrian President Bashar Assad, &quot;stated that his country has influence over Lebanon; an influence that he described as positive … we all know that this is not true.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The commentary noted Syria wants the Golan Heights without war and wants to win America over &quot;without having to adopt a moderate approach or refrain from interfering in Lebanon or Iraq.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Damascus, like Iran, is playing the Hamas card, a movement that is affiliated to the Muslim Brotherhood…&quot; he continued. &quot;Iran, by imposing fait accompli or reaching an agreement with the United States, wants to dominate the Arab world and to resume exporting the Islamic revolution.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;This is the main problem. America will leave the region and we will find ourselves opening a new chapter that is no better than where we are today. After the devouring of Iraq and Lebanon at the hands of Iran and Syria, the Gulf region will be under the siege of the Islamic revolution and under pressure from Syrian meddling,&quot; he said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We do not know where this will all end. Therefore, in light of the American exit and the lack of Arab activity, the region will witness its second stage of downfall; however, this time, it will be in the hands of Tehran and Damascus,&quot; he said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In its own editorial, the International Herald Tribune said U.S. voters are becoming increasingly convinced it is time for a troop withdrawal, forcing them then to focus their attention on the &quot;likely consequences&quot; in the region. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Washington&#039;s presence in Iraq will gradually diminish over the next five years, leaving in place a weak, decentralized system of warlords with some foreign supporter,&quot; the IHT said. &quot;The central government appears certain to weaken over time, but the proposal of a new al-Qaida haven arising in the Sunni triangle is not the most significant threat that would emerge from a post-U.S. Iraq. Rather, it is the galvanizing effect that a U.S. troop pullout would have on Islamist radicals in the Maghreb, the Palestinian territories, Jordan and beyond.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The editor of a premier pan-Arab daily newspaper is warning with the eventual departure of American forces from Iraq, the vacuum will be filled by Syria and Iran, and &quot;with friends like these, who needs enemies?&quot; </p>
<p>The commentary comes from Tariq Alhomayed, editor-in-chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, the Arabic-language newspaper that is printed in 12 cities on four continents and also features an English-language website. </p>
<p>The editorial was highlighted by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which monitors media reports throughout the Middle East. </p>
<p>&quot;In an editorial titled &#39;[The] American Withdrawal and the Second Stage,&#39; … Alhomayed warned of what might happen after the U.S. withdraws its forces from Iraq,&quot; MEMRI said. &quot;He argued that Iraq would be taken over by Iran and Syria, which are seeking to dominate the Middle East, and that the result would be the spread of extremism and violence throughout the region.&quot; </p>
<p>Both Iran and Syria are &quot;getting ready&quot; for the American departure, he said. </p>
<p>&quot;Iran has, in fact, been present in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein&#39;s regime. As for Syria, it has been one of the disrupters of the Iraqi project however from afar,&quot; he said. &quot;Nevertheless, what is new today is Damascus&#39;s endeavor to reorganize the Baathist rather than the Sunni elements as is commonly believed, in order to ensure Syrian influence in Iraq.&quot; </p>
<p>He said while Syrian President Bashar Assad, &quot;stated that his country has influence over Lebanon; an influence that he described as positive … we all know that this is not true.&quot; </p>
<p>The commentary noted Syria wants the Golan Heights without war and wants to win America over &quot;without having to adopt a moderate approach or refrain from interfering in Lebanon or Iraq.&quot; </p>
<p>&quot;Damascus, like Iran, is playing the Hamas card, a movement that is affiliated to the Muslim Brotherhood…&quot; he continued. &quot;Iran, by imposing fait accompli or reaching an agreement with the United States, wants to dominate the Arab world and to resume exporting the Islamic revolution.&quot; </p>
<p>&quot;This is the main problem. America will leave the region and we will find ourselves opening a new chapter that is no better than where we are today. After the devouring of Iraq and Lebanon at the hands of Iran and Syria, the Gulf region will be under the siege of the Islamic revolution and under pressure from Syrian meddling,&quot; he said. </p>
<p>&quot;We do not know where this will all end. Therefore, in light of the American exit and the lack of Arab activity, the region will witness its second stage of downfall; however, this time, it will be in the hands of Tehran and Damascus,&quot; he said. </p>
<p>In its own editorial, the International Herald Tribune said U.S. voters are becoming increasingly convinced it is time for a troop withdrawal, forcing them then to focus their attention on the &quot;likely consequences&quot; in the region. </p>
<p>&quot;Washington&#39;s presence in Iraq will gradually diminish over the next five years, leaving in place a weak, decentralized system of warlords with some foreign supporter,&quot; the IHT said. &quot;The central government appears certain to weaken over time, but the proposal of a new al-Qaida haven arising in the Sunni triangle is not the most significant threat that would emerge from a post-U.S. Iraq. Rather, it is the galvanizing effect that a U.S. troop pullout would have on Islamist radicals in the Maghreb, the Palestinian territories, Jordan and beyond.&quot; </p>
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