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		<title>By: Hamas</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68022</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s your point infidel?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: ANON</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Demographic Trends and Jews.. attitude towards government:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By 2050 the U.S population will surge to 500 million (projected) yet the Jewish population will drop to 3.5 million from perhaps 6 million today. (Jews have few children hence their strong disinterest in having them fight their wars). &lt;br /&gt;
I would expect that in order to maintain Jewish  influence over the US govt that Jewish thinkers will advocate a move away from one person one vote to voting based upon capital accumulated, degrees awarded etc. This would allow Jews to maintain their disproportionate influence in government as their numbers decline.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>By 2050 the U.S population will surge to 500 million (projected) yet the Jewish population will drop to 3.5 million from perhaps 6 million today. (Jews have few children hence their strong disinterest in having them fight their wars). <br />
I would expect that in order to maintain Jewish  influence over the US govt that Jewish thinkers will advocate a move away from one person one vote to voting based upon capital accumulated, degrees awarded etc. This would allow Jews to maintain their disproportionate influence in government as their numbers decline.</p>
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		<title>By: ANONYMOUSE</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68024</link>
		<dc:creator>ANONYMOUSE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look at what the jew armitage is claiming now:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The man who revealed that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA said that he was &quot;extraordinarily foolish&quot; to leak her name.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told CNN&#039;s Wolf Blitzer in an interview broadcast Sunday that he did not realize Plame was a covert agent when he discussed her with syndicated columnist Robert Novak.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Novak, a former CNN contributor, wrote the July 2003 column in which Plame was named as a CIA employee. He later cited his sources as Armitage and Karl Rove, then President Bush&#039;s top political adviser.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Armitage said he had seen a memo that said Plame was publicly chairing a meeting, so he assumed her CIA employment was not a secret.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;There was no ill intent on my part, and I had never seen, ever in 43 years of having a security clearance, a covert operative&#039;s name in a memo,&quot; he said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blitzer asked Armitage if he &quot;simply assumed that she was not a clandestine officer of the CIA.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Well, even Mr. Novak has said that he used the word &#039;operative&#039; and misused it,&quot; Armitage said. &quot;No one ever said &#039;operative.&#039; And I not only assumed it, as I say, I have never seen a covert agent&#039;s name in a memo. However, that doesn&#039;t take away from what Mrs. Plame said. It was foolish, yes.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Emotional Rove announces &#039;next chapter&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
Judge tosses out lawsuit in CIA leak case &lt;br /&gt;
Bush commutes Libby&#039;s prison sentence &lt;br /&gt;
Rove, who left the White House in August, has denied he was also a source of the leak to Novak.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Plame&#039;s identity was disclosed shortly after her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, challenged one of the chief claims underpinning the Bush administration&#039;s case for the U.S. invasion of Iraq -- that Iraq had sought uranium for nuclear weapons from the African country of Niger. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In an op-ed piece for The New York Times, Wilson wrote that he had investigated the claim at the request of CIA officials and found it &quot;highly doubtful&quot; that any such transaction could have occurred, and he accused the Bush administration of having &quot;twisted&quot; the evidence for war.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Neither Armitage nor Rove was charged with a crime in the leak.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at what the jew armitage is claiming now:</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (CNN) &#8212; The man who revealed that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA said that he was &quot;extraordinarily foolish&quot; to leak her name.</p>
<p>Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told CNN&#39;s Wolf Blitzer in an interview broadcast Sunday that he did not realize Plame was a covert agent when he discussed her with syndicated columnist Robert Novak.</p>
<p>Novak, a former CNN contributor, wrote the July 2003 column in which Plame was named as a CIA employee. He later cited his sources as Armitage and Karl Rove, then President Bush&#39;s top political adviser.</p>
<p>Armitage said he had seen a memo that said Plame was publicly chairing a meeting, so he assumed her CIA employment was not a secret.</p>
<p>&quot;There was no ill intent on my part, and I had never seen, ever in 43 years of having a security clearance, a covert operative&#39;s name in a memo,&quot; he said. </p>
<p>Blitzer asked Armitage if he &quot;simply assumed that she was not a clandestine officer of the CIA.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Well, even Mr. Novak has said that he used the word &#39;operative&#39; and misused it,&quot; Armitage said. &quot;No one ever said &#39;operative.&#39; And I not only assumed it, as I say, I have never seen a covert agent&#39;s name in a memo. However, that doesn&#39;t take away from what Mrs. Plame said. It was foolish, yes.&quot;</p>
<p>Emotional Rove announces &#39;next chapter&#39; <br />
Judge tosses out lawsuit in CIA leak case <br />
Bush commutes Libby&#39;s prison sentence <br />
Rove, who left the White House in August, has denied he was also a source of the leak to Novak.</p>
<p>Plame&#39;s identity was disclosed shortly after her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, challenged one of the chief claims underpinning the Bush administration&#39;s case for the U.S. invasion of Iraq &#8212; that Iraq had sought uranium for nuclear weapons from the African country of Niger. </p>
<p>In an op-ed piece for The New York Times, Wilson wrote that he had investigated the claim at the request of CIA officials and found it &quot;highly doubtful&quot; that any such transaction could have occurred, and he accused the Bush administration of having &quot;twisted&quot; the evidence for war.</p>
<p>Neither Armitage nor Rove was charged with a crime in the leak.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68025</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dershowitz is an odd duck. Although he has taken a lot of heat for his &quot;discussion&quot; (from both his left and his right) with prominent critics of Israel, particularly Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, he also prominently confronted Meir Kahane in public debate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Zionism is not by definition &quot;religious&quot;. It is popular, as in defined by self-identification with a people. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the source of that self-definition is religious, but that is a subset of the definition as one of a people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My experience with the Christian left, if you are using that term descriptively, is that they are mostly very principled people, applying values to situations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They emphasize the spiritual and ethical teachings of Jesus (really liberal Jewish teachings), and deemphasize the dictums to exclude or punish.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There was an article I think in the Times magazine section a few weeks ago, describing the new theological emphasis on spiritual growth post conversion as more important, than either the conversion itself or the association as &quot;Christians&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The principle of &quot;love thy neighbor as thyself&quot; is not really consistent with war for interests (say warring for oil supply chain stability).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dershowitz is an odd duck. Although he has taken a lot of heat for his &quot;discussion&quot; (from both his left and his right) with prominent critics of Israel, particularly Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein.</p>
<p>However, he also prominently confronted Meir Kahane in public debate.</p>
<p>Zionism is not by definition &quot;religious&quot;. It is popular, as in defined by self-identification with a people. </p>
<p>Sometimes the source of that self-definition is religious, but that is a subset of the definition as one of a people.</p>
<p>My experience with the Christian left, if you are using that term descriptively, is that they are mostly very principled people, applying values to situations.</p>
<p>They emphasize the spiritual and ethical teachings of Jesus (really liberal Jewish teachings), and deemphasize the dictums to exclude or punish.</p>
<p>There was an article I think in the Times magazine section a few weeks ago, describing the new theological emphasis on spiritual growth post conversion as more important, than either the conversion itself or the association as &quot;Christians&quot;.</p>
<p>The principle of &quot;love thy neighbor as thyself&quot; is not really consistent with war for interests (say warring for oil supply chain stability).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Demographic Trends and Jews.. attitude towards government:&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By 2050 the number of elite jews in the lists of the most powerful people in America will surpass the 80%. They will have very little need of the jewish vote to control the american political process because they will be themselves the american political process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And Richard Armitage is not jewish (as far as I know)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oinc! Oinc!&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>By 2050 the number of elite jews in the lists of the most powerful people in America will surpass the 80%. They will have very little need of the jewish vote to control the american political process because they will be themselves the american political process.</p>
<p>And Richard Armitage is not jewish (as far as I know)</p>
<p>Oinc! Oinc!</p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68027</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know about that. I don&#039;t see too many lefties who aren&#039;t disgusted with Israel and with the US/Isr relationship at present.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I check out the dem left site, DKos frequently and the vast majority there are negative toward Israel and their US Lobby. There is a small group of posters there however, always the same ones, that are rabid pro zionist and apoligist for AIPAC and Israel. They operate like a pack and hunt down every Israel related post to trash it and hurl the anit-semite thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that actually the dem party in congress, having a large number of jews, are more Israel centric than your average dem voter.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know about that. I don&#39;t see too many lefties who aren&#39;t disgusted with Israel and with the US/Isr relationship at present.</p>
<p>I check out the dem left site, DKos frequently and the vast majority there are negative toward Israel and their US Lobby. There is a small group of posters there however, always the same ones, that are rabid pro zionist and apoligist for AIPAC and Israel. They operate like a pack and hunt down every Israel related post to trash it and hurl the anit-semite thing.</p>
<p>I think that actually the dem party in congress, having a large number of jews, are more Israel centric than your average dem voter.</p>
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		<title>By: Gudbrand</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68028</link>
		<dc:creator>Gudbrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those damn Palestinians are no better than the Israelis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At least six people have been killed in gunfire at a rally organised by Fatah in the Gaza Strip to mark three years since the death of Yasser Arafat. &lt;br /&gt;
Security forces from the rival Hamas movement opened fire at crowds, causing people to run for cover, reports say. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was the biggest rally held by the late president&#039;s party since it was ousted from Gaza by Hamas in June after a series of bloody clashes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The iconic Palestinian leader died in Paris on 11 November 2004. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since his death Palestinian politics has been riven by splits, the most violent between the secular nationalist Fatah party and the radical Islamist group Hamas. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Taunting &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hundreds of thousands of Fatah supporters, carrying pictures of Arafat and waving yellow Fatah flags had gathered in a large square in the centre of Gaza City. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hamas security officials said they fired toward protesters who threw stones at security compounds. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Witnesses said the first shots were fired after crowds started accusing Hamas security forces of being a proxy for Shia Muslim-ruled Iran. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;About 100 people were reported to have been wounded in the violence. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hamas has banned opposition rallies since its takeover of Gaza, and its security personnel were out in force at the edge of Monday&#039;s massive gathering. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Correspondents say any move to prevent a ceremony commemorating Mr Arafat - whose following still crosses factional divisions - would have been widely unpopular in Gaza. &lt;/p&gt;

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<p>At least six people have been killed in gunfire at a rally organised by Fatah in the Gaza Strip to mark three years since the death of Yasser Arafat. <br />
Security forces from the rival Hamas movement opened fire at crowds, causing people to run for cover, reports say. </p>
<p>It was the biggest rally held by the late president&#39;s party since it was ousted from Gaza by Hamas in June after a series of bloody clashes. </p>
<p>The iconic Palestinian leader died in Paris on 11 November 2004. </p>
<p>Since his death Palestinian politics has been riven by splits, the most violent between the secular nationalist Fatah party and the radical Islamist group Hamas. </p>
<p>Taunting </p>
<p>Hundreds of thousands of Fatah supporters, carrying pictures of Arafat and waving yellow Fatah flags had gathered in a large square in the centre of Gaza City. </p>
<p>Hamas security officials said they fired toward protesters who threw stones at security compounds. </p>
<p>Witnesses said the first shots were fired after crowds started accusing Hamas security forces of being a proxy for Shia Muslim-ruled Iran. </p>
<p>About 100 people were reported to have been wounded in the violence. </p>
<p>Hamas has banned opposition rallies since its takeover of Gaza, and its security personnel were out in force at the edge of Monday&#39;s massive gathering. </p>
<p>Correspondents say any move to prevent a ceremony commemorating Mr Arafat &#8211; whose following still crosses factional divisions &#8211; would have been widely unpopular in Gaza. </p>
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		<title>By: Gudbrand</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/11/now-the-religio.html/comment-page-1#comment-68029</link>
		<dc:creator>Gudbrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The UN ordered an investigation into an incident in which Palestinian militants fired mortars at Israel from a UN-run school in Gaza. &lt;br /&gt;
Ban Ki-moon condemned the abuse of UN facilities and described it a &quot;serious violation of the UN&#039;s privileges and immunities&quot;, a spokeswoman said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Israeli military aircraft filmed the mortars being fired from the school&#039;s playground in Beit Hanoun last week. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The UN has already complained about the incident to the authorities in Gaza. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The coastal territory has been controlled by the Islamist movement, Hamas, since it seized control from the rival Fatah group of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in June. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Serious violation&#039; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Israeli military&#039;s video of the incident on 29 October, taken from the air using thermal imaging equipment, shows three figures firing mortars outside the school run by the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, Unrwa, in Beit Hanoun. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We&#039;ve complained frequently to both sides - to the Israelis when the IDF comes in and use our schools for interrogating people, and also to the Palestinians whenever anybody also violates our installations&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Karen Koning AbuZayd, Unrwa Commissioner-General &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unrwa commissioner-general Karen Koning AbuZayd said the school had been evacuated earlier in the day because of an Israeli military incursion nearby. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;This is a problem when we&#039;re not there, what happens to our schools,&quot; Ms AbuZayd told a news conference on Wednesday. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We&#039;ve complained frequently to both sides - to the Israelis when the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) comes in and use our schools for interrogating people, and also to the Palestinians whenever anybody also violates our installations,&quot; she added. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A spokeswoman for the UN secretary-general said he had asked Unrwa to fully investigate the incident. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The United Nations runs a number of schools in the Gaza Strip &lt;br /&gt;
&quot;The secretary-general condemns this abuse of UN facilities, which is a serious violation of the UN&#039;s privileges and immunities,&quot; Marie Okabe said. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;He calls on all involved in this conflict to avoid actions that endanger the lives of civilians, especially children, and that put at risk Unrwa&#039;s ability to carry out its humanitarian mission.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rockets are fired from the Gaza Strip on an almost daily basis by Palestinian militants, who say they are responding to continued Israeli aggression. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Israeli government has responded by declaring the coastal territory a &quot;hostile entity&quot; and stepping up economic and political sanctions. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last week, Israel&#039;s attorney general intervened to suspend government plans to restrict electricity supplies to Gaza&#039;s civilian population, although fuel restrictions have already been initiated. The UN has called the sanctions punitive and unacceptable. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN ordered an investigation into an incident in which Palestinian militants fired mortars at Israel from a UN-run school in Gaza. <br />
Ban Ki-moon condemned the abuse of UN facilities and described it a &quot;serious violation of the UN&#39;s privileges and immunities&quot;, a spokeswoman said. </p>
<p>Israeli military aircraft filmed the mortars being fired from the school&#39;s playground in Beit Hanoun last week. </p>
<p>The UN has already complained about the incident to the authorities in Gaza. </p>
<p>The coastal territory has been controlled by the Islamist movement, Hamas, since it seized control from the rival Fatah group of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in June. </p>
<p>&#39;Serious violation&#39; </p>
<p>The Israeli military&#39;s video of the incident on 29 October, taken from the air using thermal imaging equipment, shows three figures firing mortars outside the school run by the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, Unrwa, in Beit Hanoun. </p>
<p>&quot;We&#39;ve complained frequently to both sides &#8211; to the Israelis when the IDF comes in and use our schools for interrogating people, and also to the Palestinians whenever anybody also violates our installations&quot;<br />
Karen Koning AbuZayd, Unrwa Commissioner-General </p>
<p>Unrwa commissioner-general Karen Koning AbuZayd said the school had been evacuated earlier in the day because of an Israeli military incursion nearby. </p>
<p>&quot;This is a problem when we&#39;re not there, what happens to our schools,&quot; Ms AbuZayd told a news conference on Wednesday. </p>
<p>&quot;We&#39;ve complained frequently to both sides &#8211; to the Israelis when the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) comes in and use our schools for interrogating people, and also to the Palestinians whenever anybody also violates our installations,&quot; she added. </p>
<p>A spokeswoman for the UN secretary-general said he had asked Unrwa to fully investigate the incident. </p>
<p>The United Nations runs a number of schools in the Gaza Strip <br />
&quot;The secretary-general condemns this abuse of UN facilities, which is a serious violation of the UN&#39;s privileges and immunities,&quot; Marie Okabe said. </p>
<p>&quot;He calls on all involved in this conflict to avoid actions that endanger the lives of civilians, especially children, and that put at risk Unrwa&#39;s ability to carry out its humanitarian mission.&quot; </p>
<p>Rockets are fired from the Gaza Strip on an almost daily basis by Palestinian militants, who say they are responding to continued Israeli aggression. </p>
<p>The Israeli government has responded by declaring the coastal territory a &quot;hostile entity&quot; and stepping up economic and political sanctions. </p>
<p>Last week, Israel&#39;s attorney general intervened to suspend government plans to restrict electricity supplies to Gaza&#39;s civilian population, although fuel restrictions have already been initiated. The UN has called the sanctions punitive and unacceptable. </p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Equally OT, this article from Bloomberg (quelle surprise!) provides a good description of the Israel lobby (elected representatives’ arm) at work derailing the nuclear rapprochement between the US and India because of the latter’s ties with Iran.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This precisely the sort of thing W&amp;M presented as a problem.  In this case it is sacrificing US-Indian ties on the alter of the US-Israel relationships.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601104&amp;sid=aeQLq2c_FnrU&amp;refer=mideast&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wake-up Americans!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Equally OT, this article from Bloomberg (quelle surprise!) provides a good description of the Israel lobby (elected representatives’ arm) at work derailing the nuclear rapprochement between the US and India because of the latter’s ties with Iran.</p>
<p>This precisely the sort of thing W&amp;M presented as a problem.  In this case it is sacrificing US-Indian ties on the alter of the US-Israel relationships.</p>
<p>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601104&amp;sid=aeQLq2c_FnrU&amp;refer=mideast</p>
<p>Wake-up Americans!</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Witty-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When Dep. Sec. of Defense Wolfowitz said oil would pay for this Iraq war, he meant that the price of oil would be so damn high, that oil profit taxes (cough!) would pay for the war. That, and the sizeable cashing-in on the Canadian tar sands just now becoming viable per current astronomical prices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No one [who&#039;s really paying attention] believes this war was to CONTROL Iraqi oil. Or in your words, stabilize the supply chain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The war never proved remotely possible of achieving that end, what with the bombs and billions of dollars and weapons gone missing, almost instantaneously. Evidence it could not possibly achieve that aim was and is abundant and the oil futures market basically bears out the material failure of that, meaning that you, Richard Witty, must literally believe the men who took the world&#039;s biggest military to war, and continue its expansion, are complete and utter fucking buffoons.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are; they aren&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witty-</p>
<p>When Dep. Sec. of Defense Wolfowitz said oil would pay for this Iraq war, he meant that the price of oil would be so damn high, that oil profit taxes (cough!) would pay for the war. That, and the sizeable cashing-in on the Canadian tar sands just now becoming viable per current astronomical prices.</p>
<p>No one [who&#39;s really paying attention] believes this war was to CONTROL Iraqi oil. Or in your words, stabilize the supply chain.</p>
<p>The war never proved remotely possible of achieving that end, what with the bombs and billions of dollars and weapons gone missing, almost instantaneously. Evidence it could not possibly achieve that aim was and is abundant and the oil futures market basically bears out the material failure of that, meaning that you, Richard Witty, must literally believe the men who took the world&#39;s biggest military to war, and continue its expansion, are complete and utter fucking buffoons.</p>
<p>You are; they aren&#39;t.</p>
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