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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67137</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What percentage of Israeli Jews oppose dividing Jerusalem? My guess it&#039;s at least 58% or (probably) much higher. So if Israelis don&#039;t want it, it&#039;s not a case of evil American Jews. It&#039;s Israelis. That&#039;s bad news for Phil, because his neurotic exercises in self therapy aren&#039;t likely to impress people who actually live with Arabs&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What percentage of Israeli Jews oppose dividing Jerusalem? My guess it&#39;s at least 58% or (probably) much higher. So if Israelis don&#39;t want it, it&#39;s not a case of evil American Jews. It&#39;s Israelis. That&#39;s bad news for Phil, because his neurotic exercises in self therapy aren&#39;t likely to impress people who actually live with Arabs</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67138</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Phil the explanation of Jewry&#039;s attitude lies in the old adage that it is only possible to truly hate those whom one has wronged unjustifiably.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Applying the adage to Palestine and the overwhelming majority of its indigenous people, the Arabs, Jews hate the Arabs beause they know deep down that Jews have wronged the Arabs. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hatred and scapegoating the Arabs,hanging onto Jerusalem etc are much easier substitutes than thinking about these matters. (Jews can be great thinkers when they have nothing at stake....)  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Phil the explanation of Jewry&#39;s attitude lies in the old adage that it is only possible to truly hate those whom one has wronged unjustifiably.</p>
<p>Applying the adage to Palestine and the overwhelming majority of its indigenous people, the Arabs, Jews hate the Arabs beause they know deep down that Jews have wronged the Arabs. </p>
<p>Hatred and scapegoating the Arabs,hanging onto Jerusalem etc are much easier substitutes than thinking about these matters. (Jews can be great thinkers when they have nothing at stake&#8230;.)  </p>
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		<title>By: Ed.</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67139</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The following article will be helpful in comprehending why even &quot;liberal&quot; diaspora Jews can&#039;t bring themselves to admit their own complicity in the Iraq war: to do so would be to concede that their own religion (and hence, for those that identify themselves as an extension of their religion) their own very essence...is fascist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;What is &quot;Judeofascism&quot;?&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.judeofascism.com/2007/12/what-is-judeofascism.html&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following article will be helpful in comprehending why even &quot;liberal&quot; diaspora Jews can&#39;t bring themselves to admit their own complicity in the Iraq war: to do so would be to concede that their own religion (and hence, for those that identify themselves as an extension of their religion) their own very essence&#8230;is fascist.</p>
<p>&#39;What is &quot;Judeofascism&quot;?&#39; <br />
<a href="http://www.judeofascism.com/2007/12/what-is-judeofascism.html/p">link to judeofascism.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David the First</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67140</link>
		<dc:creator>David the First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John wrote: &quot;Maybe Phil the explanation of Jewry&#039;s attitude lies in the old adage that it is only possible to truly hate those whom one has wronged unjustifiably.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I too think this. I think it&#039;s a key to understanding the current psychological dynamic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a pessimistic conclusion, because it implies that the community is stuck in a dynamic of self-reinforcing hatred -- a kind of vicious circle. And breaking out is going to require something that Jews have not always been particularly good at: taking responsibility for past actions and making some kind of atonement.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John wrote: &quot;Maybe Phil the explanation of Jewry&#39;s attitude lies in the old adage that it is only possible to truly hate those whom one has wronged unjustifiably.&quot;</p>
<p>I too think this. I think it&#39;s a key to understanding the current psychological dynamic.</p>
<p>It&#39;s a pessimistic conclusion, because it implies that the community is stuck in a dynamic of self-reinforcing hatred &#8212; a kind of vicious circle. And breaking out is going to require something that Jews have not always been particularly good at: taking responsibility for past actions and making some kind of atonement.</p>
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		<title>By: cogit8</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67141</link>
		<dc:creator>cogit8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israel has gotten what it wished for: control of all Palestine from the Med. sea to the Jordan river. By ingeneously carving up the Arab areas into totally controlled shtetls, Israel has aborted any notion of a normal Palestinian Statehood. The Jews will try to &quot;sell&quot; a ridiculous version of statehood, but no one will buy it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That the Jews have been able to conquer the land and neglect the welfare of it&#039;s captured citizens is heineous. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That the rest of the world watches this Orwellian nonsense and barely gives humanitarian assistance to human-beings held behind barbed-wire is testimony to modern Jew power. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Philip, I don&#039;t know about such events as WW1 and the so-called Protocols, but I know damn-well what I&#039;ve witnessed since 911. The whole Jewish community is complicit to one extent or another in these actions. They&#039;ve bought themselves a fine kettle of fish, and now it&#039;s starting to stink.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel has gotten what it wished for: control of all Palestine from the Med. sea to the Jordan river. By ingeneously carving up the Arab areas into totally controlled shtetls, Israel has aborted any notion of a normal Palestinian Statehood. The Jews will try to &quot;sell&quot; a ridiculous version of statehood, but no one will buy it.</p>
<p>That the Jews have been able to conquer the land and neglect the welfare of it&#39;s captured citizens is heineous. </p>
<p>That the rest of the world watches this Orwellian nonsense and barely gives humanitarian assistance to human-beings held behind barbed-wire is testimony to modern Jew power. </p>
<p>Philip, I don&#39;t know about such events as WW1 and the so-called Protocols, but I know damn-well what I&#39;ve witnessed since 911. The whole Jewish community is complicit to one extent or another in these actions. They&#39;ve bought themselves a fine kettle of fish, and now it&#39;s starting to stink.</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67142</link>
		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ISRAEL AND TOP ZIONIST LEADERS ATTACK INTELLIGENCE (another excellent piece by James Petras):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2db3mq&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISRAEL AND TOP ZIONIST LEADERS ATTACK INTELLIGENCE (another excellent piece by James Petras):</p>
<p>http://tinyurl.com/2db3mq</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67143</link>
		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even Michael Scheuer (who used to head up the Bin Laden unit for the CIA) basically endorsed Ron Paul in the following youtube video (of course the fifth columnist Israel first crowd doesn&#039;t like Ron Paul!): &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAehMPVFFE0 &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael Scheuer (former head of CIA Bin Laden unit) was on Bill Maher. He said: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot; Israel is not worth an American life or an American dollar.&quot; and &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Our unqualified support of Israel has brought the US a great deal of pain and increasingly dead Americans, fighting wars that are not ours to fight.&quot; and &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot; America is fighting a war that does not exist -- our politicians have lied to us-it is not about hating freedom, womens&#039; rights etc.---it is about our policies in the Middle East .&quot; Bill Maher who is Jewish was clearly shaken. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael Scheuer was shown in the following youtube as well: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Additional at the following URL: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even Michael Scheuer (who used to head up the Bin Laden unit for the CIA) basically endorsed Ron Paul in the following youtube video (of course the fifth columnist Israel first crowd doesn&#39;t like Ron Paul!): </p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAehMPVFFE0 </p>
<p>Michael Scheuer (former head of CIA Bin Laden unit) was on Bill Maher. He said: </p>
<p>&quot; Israel is not worth an American life or an American dollar.&quot; and </p>
<p>&quot;Our unqualified support of Israel has brought the US a great deal of pain and increasingly dead Americans, fighting wars that are not ours to fight.&quot; and </p>
<p>&quot; America is fighting a war that does not exist &#8212; our politicians have lied to us-it is not about hating freedom, womens&#39; rights etc.&#8212;it is about our policies in the Middle East .&quot; Bill Maher who is Jewish was clearly shaken. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- </p>
<p>Michael Scheuer was shown in the following youtube as well: </p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ">link to youtube.com</a> </p>
<p>Additional at the following URL: </p>
<p>http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67144</link>
		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Video that gets to the Israel question: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.IRmep.org/jm.wmv &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-support-for.html &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video that gets to the Israel question: </p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg </p>
<p>http://www.IRmep.org/jm.wmv </p>
<p>
The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel </p>
<p>http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-support-for.html </p>
<p>SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks: </p>
<p>http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html </p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67145</link>
		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Be sure to read Kevin MacDonald&#039;s &#039;Thinking about Neoconservatism&#039; article and his &#039;Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movement&#039; monograph which are both linked near the top of the following URL:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=32606&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to read Kevin MacDonald&#39;s &#39;Thinking about Neoconservatism&#39; article and his &#39;Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movement&#39; monograph which are both linked near the top of the following URL:</p>
<p>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=32606</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/james-petras-ha.html/comment-page-1#comment-67146</link>
		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Save Darfur gives liberal Jews the ability &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*to fight genocide, &lt;br /&gt;
*to show their progressive credentials, &lt;br /&gt;
*yet to spew Islamophobic hatred against Muslim Americans as well as against foreign Muslims and &lt;br /&gt;
*yet incite the incineration of yet another Arab country.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I published a slightly different version of http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/12/harvard-supports-incinerating-arab.html in Sudan Vision, which is an English language Sudanese paper. It was given a full page.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wanted the Sudanese to understand with what they are dealing, but I also wanted to demonstrate another point of dispute between me and Stephen Walt (from a seminar last year that Kishwer Falkner Baroness Magravine ran last year at the KSG).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We were discussing Neocons and democratization. I was arguing that today all local politics is global and all global politics is local.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jewish Zionists are bringing their fanatic hatred of the native Palestinian population of Arabs here and making it part of local Academic and Pulitzer politics in the case of Samantha Power. But then the local politics of Power&#039;s academic whoredom and Islamophobic incitement at the Carr Center goes back to the Arab and Muslim world to complicate US international relations because of someone like me that has worked in the Arab and Muslim world or because of all the students and faculty at the KSG who have connections to the Arab and Muslim world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kishwer (nee Khan) is a member of the House of Lords. She emigrated from Pakistan to the UK in the 1970s and still has many ties in Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Save Darfur gives liberal Jews the ability </p>
<p>*to fight genocide, <br />
*to show their progressive credentials, <br />
*yet to spew Islamophobic hatred against Muslim Americans as well as against foreign Muslims and <br />
*yet incite the incineration of yet another Arab country.</p>
<p>I published a slightly different version of <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/12/harvard-supports-incinerating-arab.html">link to eaazi.blogspot.com</a><br /> in Sudan Vision, which is an English language Sudanese paper. It was given a full page.</p>
<p>I wanted the Sudanese to understand with what they are dealing, but I also wanted to demonstrate another point of dispute between me and Stephen Walt (from a seminar last year that Kishwer Falkner Baroness Magravine ran last year at the KSG).</p>
<p>We were discussing Neocons and democratization. I was arguing that today all local politics is global and all global politics is local.</p>
<p>Jewish Zionists are bringing their fanatic hatred of the native Palestinian population of Arabs here and making it part of local Academic and Pulitzer politics in the case of Samantha Power. But then the local politics of Power&#39;s academic whoredom and Islamophobic incitement at the Carr Center goes back to the Arab and Muslim world to complicate US international relations because of someone like me that has worked in the Arab and Muslim world or because of all the students and faculty at the KSG who have connections to the Arab and Muslim world.</p>
<p>Kishwer (nee Khan) is a member of the House of Lords. She emigrated from Pakistan to the UK in the 1970s and still has many ties in Pakistan.</p>
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