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		<title>By: Jerome Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Readers of this blog should not fail to read Henry Siegman&#039;s brilliant analysis of the Annapolis conference, in the Dec. 31 Nation, available now online, I believe.  It simply doesn&#039;t get any better than this.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers of this blog should not fail to read Henry Siegman&#39;s brilliant analysis of the Annapolis conference, in the Dec. 31 Nation, available now online, I believe.  It simply doesn&#39;t get any better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are in New York Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, you&#039;re not looking all the way around.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Jewish community in my home town is lawyers, accountants (me), artists, farmers, factory workers, homeless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nearly certainly similarly in New York, and in your new hometown.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unless something has radically changed in the past three years, your parents are still middle class (even with an inflated home value). I don&#039;t know about your brothers and sisters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The world itself has grown more conservative, including politically. The conservative movement in the US is/was NOT largely Jewish. Ronald Reagon had Jewish supporters certainly, but the majority of the conservative wave (evangelical, free-market) was not Jewish in origin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The anti-tax movement is not particularly a Jewish movement. But, that is what has created the aristocracy society that we now have (and coming to have).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There was a divestiture of public assets, great inflation in minimum necessities. Twenty years ago, it shocked me that people in Japan earning $40,000/year had to afford a $300,000 house as that was what was available there. The US was different then.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its not now. It TAKES a high income to make ends meet now. (Maybe not so much if you don&#039;t have children.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The ethnic composition of class relations is not that significant from where I sit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Asking, what can make things different, better, the ethnic questions are NOT the ones that make a difference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, I like Edwards&#039; emphasis on work as the basis of community prosperity. Even with disparities in compensation for work, the range of income from work maybe is in the 100-1 range, across all of society.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In contrast the range of income from investments (ownership, not from work) is in the range of infinity - 1. (There is no &quot;infinity - 1&quot;, but you get the idea.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Currently, income from investment is taxed at a maximum of 15%, with no exposure to alternative minimum tax.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In contrast, including social security taxes, a typical self-employed plumber will pay 40 - 45% federal income taxes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The republicans are to &quot;thank&quot; for the new aristocracy and regulatory negligence, while the democrats are to &quot;thank&quot; for high costs of real estate and health care run up by favored tax status.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are in New York Phil.</p>
<p>And, you&#39;re not looking all the way around.</p>
<p>The Jewish community in my home town is lawyers, accountants (me), artists, farmers, factory workers, homeless.</p>
<p>Nearly certainly similarly in New York, and in your new hometown.</p>
<p>Unless something has radically changed in the past three years, your parents are still middle class (even with an inflated home value). I don&#39;t know about your brothers and sisters.</p>
<p>The world itself has grown more conservative, including politically. The conservative movement in the US is/was NOT largely Jewish. Ronald Reagon had Jewish supporters certainly, but the majority of the conservative wave (evangelical, free-market) was not Jewish in origin.</p>
<p>The anti-tax movement is not particularly a Jewish movement. But, that is what has created the aristocracy society that we now have (and coming to have).</p>
<p>There was a divestiture of public assets, great inflation in minimum necessities. Twenty years ago, it shocked me that people in Japan earning $40,000/year had to afford a $300,000 house as that was what was available there. The US was different then.</p>
<p>Its not now. It TAKES a high income to make ends meet now. (Maybe not so much if you don&#39;t have children.)</p>
<p>The ethnic composition of class relations is not that significant from where I sit.</p>
<p>Asking, what can make things different, better, the ethnic questions are NOT the ones that make a difference.</p>
<p>Again, I like Edwards&#39; emphasis on work as the basis of community prosperity. Even with disparities in compensation for work, the range of income from work maybe is in the 100-1 range, across all of society.</p>
<p>In contrast the range of income from investments (ownership, not from work) is in the range of infinity &#8211; 1. (There is no &quot;infinity &#8211; 1&quot;, but you get the idea.)</p>
<p>Currently, income from investment is taxed at a maximum of 15%, with no exposure to alternative minimum tax.</p>
<p>In contrast, including social security taxes, a typical self-employed plumber will pay 40 &#8211; 45% federal income taxes.</p>
<p>The republicans are to &quot;thank&quot; for the new aristocracy and regulatory negligence, while the democrats are to &quot;thank&quot; for high costs of real estate and health care run up by favored tax status.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also, Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the points about how come there are rich Jews, we discussed at 15. They should all be idealistic, and forego greed.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Phil.</p>
<p>I think the points about how come there are rich Jews, we discussed at 15. They should all be idealistic, and forego greed.</p>
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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last time the doodoo really hit the fan in 1929, the majority ethnic group. the WASPs were at the helm. Obviously nobody was going to make conspiracy theories about THEM.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, if as you say in your post, Phil, Jewish people, &quot;helped invent the service and information economy. (are)all over the hedge funds that have altered the flows of capital around the world, (...)are all over the media. (are)everywhere&quot;, then it stands to reason that if the wheels fall off the USA again like they did in the 30s, people are going to look around for someone to blame and a minority makes an easier target.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have you read Krauthammer today?&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/13/AR2007121301501.html&lt;br /&gt;
Neocons like he is were very happy to have the support of evangelicals on the Middle East till now. Why, these nerves about Romney and Huckabee?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time the doodoo really hit the fan in 1929, the majority ethnic group. the WASPs were at the helm. Obviously nobody was going to make conspiracy theories about THEM.</p>
<p>But, if as you say in your post, Phil, Jewish people, &quot;helped invent the service and information economy. (are)all over the hedge funds that have altered the flows of capital around the world, (&#8230;)are all over the media. (are)everywhere&quot;, then it stands to reason that if the wheels fall off the USA again like they did in the 30s, people are going to look around for someone to blame and a minority makes an easier target.</p>
<p>Have you read Krauthammer today?<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/13/AR2007121301501.html<br">link to washingtonpost.com</a><br /> /><br />
Neocons like he is were very happy to have the support of evangelicals on the Middle East till now. Why, these nerves about Romney and Huckabee?</p>
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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last time the doodoo really hit the fan in 1929, the majority ethnic group. the WASPs were at the helm. Obviously nobody was going to make conspiracy theories about THEM.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, if as you say in your post, Phil, Jewish people, &quot;helped invent the service and information economy. (are)all over the hedge funds that have altered the flows of capital around the world, (...)are all over the media. (are)everywhere&quot;, then it stands to reason that if the wheels fall off the USA again like they did in the 30s, people are going to look around for someone to blame and a minority makes an easier target.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have you read Krauthammer today?&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/13/AR2007121301501.html&lt;br /&gt;
Neocons like he is were very happy to have the support of evangelicals on the Middle East till now. Why, these nerves about Romney and Huckabee?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time the doodoo really hit the fan in 1929, the majority ethnic group. the WASPs were at the helm. Obviously nobody was going to make conspiracy theories about THEM.</p>
<p>But, if as you say in your post, Phil, Jewish people, &quot;helped invent the service and information economy. (are)all over the hedge funds that have altered the flows of capital around the world, (&#8230;)are all over the media. (are)everywhere&quot;, then it stands to reason that if the wheels fall off the USA again like they did in the 30s, people are going to look around for someone to blame and a minority makes an easier target.</p>
<p>Have you read Krauthammer today?<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/13/AR2007121301501.html<br">link to washingtonpost.com</a><br /> /><br />
Neocons like he is were very happy to have the support of evangelicals on the Middle East till now. Why, these nerves about Romney and Huckabee?</p>
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		<title>By: David Seaton</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/oy-my-people-ar.html/comment-page-1#comment-67261</link>
		<dc:creator>David Seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I don&#039;t know why my post repeated itself like that. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#39;t know why my post repeated itself like that. </p>
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		<title>By: Ed.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil makes some great points, and no question there is a hugely disproportionate imbalance of Jewish wealth in this country. Of course, there is also now a lot of Asian wealth in this country, too. The difference is that, unlike their Asian counterparts, many Jews (whether they will admit it or not, even to themselves) harbor latent animus towards their gentile neighbors, either because they are Christians or Muslims (with all the historical baggage that that association implies), or because they are gentiles in general (Jews have basically been historically persecuted and despised nearly everywhere they have gone).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That explains why many gentile-hating Jews are attracted to media, the Hollywood/Entertainment industry, advertising, finance and law -- they provide lucrative and influential outlets in which they can kill two birds with one stone: get rich and simultaneously pervert and undermine gentile society, culture and institutions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s no accident that the rise of Jewish power and wealth in this country is inversely proportionate to America’s social and moral decline. Just look at the smut that is broadcast 24/7 from heavily-Jewish media centers such as LA and NY. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil says &quot;I sense that Jewish entrepreneurialism is the engine of the American economy.&quot; Unfortunately, its the wrong kind of entrepreneurialism and it has created the wrong kind of incentives; it’s increasingly an ephemeral casino economy fueled by parasitic bankers and lawyers and Madison Avenue and Hollywood smut-merchants and, on the bottom, the service industry workers that cater to their whims.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil&#039;s instincts to open his piece by pointing up the Jewish pervert trying to hide his degeneracy behind charges of anti-Semitism were right on: there is something wrong with many of these people. I’m glad more Jews are starting to see it. It’s time to reign them in.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil makes some great points, and no question there is a hugely disproportionate imbalance of Jewish wealth in this country. Of course, there is also now a lot of Asian wealth in this country, too. The difference is that, unlike their Asian counterparts, many Jews (whether they will admit it or not, even to themselves) harbor latent animus towards their gentile neighbors, either because they are Christians or Muslims (with all the historical baggage that that association implies), or because they are gentiles in general (Jews have basically been historically persecuted and despised nearly everywhere they have gone).</p>
<p>That explains why many gentile-hating Jews are attracted to media, the Hollywood/Entertainment industry, advertising, finance and law &#8212; they provide lucrative and influential outlets in which they can kill two birds with one stone: get rich and simultaneously pervert and undermine gentile society, culture and institutions.</p>
<p>It&#39;s no accident that the rise of Jewish power and wealth in this country is inversely proportionate to America’s social and moral decline. Just look at the smut that is broadcast 24/7 from heavily-Jewish media centers such as LA and NY. </p>
<p>Phil says &quot;I sense that Jewish entrepreneurialism is the engine of the American economy.&quot; Unfortunately, its the wrong kind of entrepreneurialism and it has created the wrong kind of incentives; it’s increasingly an ephemeral casino economy fueled by parasitic bankers and lawyers and Madison Avenue and Hollywood smut-merchants and, on the bottom, the service industry workers that cater to their whims.</p>
<p>Phil&#39;s instincts to open his piece by pointing up the Jewish pervert trying to hide his degeneracy behind charges of anti-Semitism were right on: there is something wrong with many of these people. I’m glad more Jews are starting to see it. It’s time to reign them in.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S.</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is so true, Phil.  It is quite depressing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One hopes that the old belief in social justice revives.  Or that people start reading those old Yiddish books again.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true, Phil.  It is quite depressing.</p>
<p>One hopes that the old belief in social justice revives.  Or that people start reading those old Yiddish books again.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Gentile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Gentile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LMAO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Very funny Phil. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO.</p>
<p>Very funny Phil. </p>
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		<title>By: Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt, Germany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt, Germany</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How the hell did they get so rich?&lt;br /&gt;
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One has to remember: most Jewish immigrants arrived pennyless in New York, like the Irish. But unlike the Irish ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s Jewish ambition and intelligence. &lt;br /&gt;
There is a sociological explanation for higher ambition but is there an explanation for higher Jewish intelligence?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the hell did they get so rich?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
One has to remember: most Jewish immigrants arrived pennyless in New York, like the Irish. But unlike the Irish &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#39;s Jewish ambition and intelligence. <br />
There is a sociological explanation for higher ambition but is there an explanation for higher Jewish intelligence?</p>
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