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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/when-will-the-w.html/comment-page-1#comment-67561</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What beam do you see in your own eye?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What beam do you see in your own eye?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is left wing about the Settlements? All the Left wing Jews and non-jews I know oppose them and most of the right wing Jews and non-jews that I know are fine with them. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As per Romney, Hitchens had a scathing review:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to the admittedly very contradictory scriptures of the New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth warned his disciples and followers that they should expect to be ridiculed and mocked for their faith. After all, how likely was it that God had decided to reveal himself to only a few illiterate peasants in a barbarous backwater? Those who elected to believe this stuff were quite rightly told to expect a hard time, and the expression &quot;fool for God&quot; or &quot;fool for Christ&quot; has been with us ever since. That concept has some dignity and nobility. Entirely lacking in dignity or nobility (or average integrity) is the well-heeled son of a gold-plated church who wants to assume the pained look of martyrdom only when he is asked if he actually believes what he says. A long time ago, Romney took the decision to be a fool for Joseph Smith, a convicted fraud and serial practitioner of statutory rape who at times made war on the United States and whose cult has been made to amend itself several times in order to be considered American at all. We do not require pious lectures on the American founding from such a man, and we are still waiting for some straight answers from him.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is left wing about the Settlements? All the Left wing Jews and non-jews I know oppose them and most of the right wing Jews and non-jews that I know are fine with them. </p>
<p>As per Romney, Hitchens had a scathing review:</p>
<p>According to the admittedly very contradictory scriptures of the New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth warned his disciples and followers that they should expect to be ridiculed and mocked for their faith. After all, how likely was it that God had decided to reveal himself to only a few illiterate peasants in a barbarous backwater? Those who elected to believe this stuff were quite rightly told to expect a hard time, and the expression &quot;fool for God&quot; or &quot;fool for Christ&quot; has been with us ever since. That concept has some dignity and nobility. Entirely lacking in dignity or nobility (or average integrity) is the well-heeled son of a gold-plated church who wants to assume the pained look of martyrdom only when he is asked if he actually believes what he says. A long time ago, Romney took the decision to be a fool for Joseph Smith, a convicted fraud and serial practitioner of statutory rape who at times made war on the United States and whose cult has been made to amend itself several times in order to be considered American at all. We do not require pious lectures on the American founding from such a man, and we are still waiting for some straight answers from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Philip&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Left wing publications like Counterpunch devote an extraordinary amount of coverage to issues like the Settlements and spend less time on other important global issues. Is there a similar dynamic occuring in these publications?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip</p>
<p>Left wing publications like Counterpunch devote an extraordinary amount of coverage to issues like the Settlements and spend less time on other important global issues. Is there a similar dynamic occuring in these publications?</p>
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		<title>By: theo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/when-will-the-w.html/comment-page-1#comment-67564</link>
		<dc:creator>theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Philip,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Washington Post &quot;shares the political persuasion&quot; of the Washington establishment, best exemplified (in the Senate) by John McCain and Joe Lieberman (who is, please note, no longer a member of the Democratic Party).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That consensus is contemptuous of fundamentalist rubes (as you identify) but it&#039;s moderate right and profoundly imperialist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Post&#039;s lack of interest in this issue is not at all shared liberalism; it&#039;s a lack of interest in exposing imperial misadventures, including those of our proxy states.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Go look around the liberal blogosphere for posts on the Post&#039;s gullible neo-con opinion editor Fred Hiatt to get some idea of how you&#039;ve guessed wrong.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip,</p>
<p>The Washington Post &quot;shares the political persuasion&quot; of the Washington establishment, best exemplified (in the Senate) by John McCain and Joe Lieberman (who is, please note, no longer a member of the Democratic Party).</p>
<p>That consensus is contemptuous of fundamentalist rubes (as you identify) but it&#39;s moderate right and profoundly imperialist.</p>
<p>The Post&#39;s lack of interest in this issue is not at all shared liberalism; it&#39;s a lack of interest in exposing imperial misadventures, including those of our proxy states.</p>
<p>Go look around the liberal blogosphere for posts on the Post&#39;s gullible neo-con opinion editor Fred Hiatt to get some idea of how you&#39;ve guessed wrong.  </p>
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		<title>By: trouvere</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/when-will-the-w.html/comment-page-1#comment-67565</link>
		<dc:creator>trouvere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;All the Left wing Jews and non-jews I know oppose the settlements.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And Ariel Sharon was &quot;a man of peace.&quot; But only in the sense that he wanted all opposition to Israeli dominance to end. In the same way, most American Jews oppose the settlements, but only in the sense that they want to stop being seen as moral pariahs. It&#039;s important to remember that they have never opposed the settlements enough to actually insist on ending them. (And don&#039;t even mention the subject of reparations.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why did it take two gentile professors to bring up the subject of the elephant in the room?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;All the Left wing Jews and non-jews I know oppose the settlements.&quot;</p>
<p>And Ariel Sharon was &quot;a man of peace.&quot; But only in the sense that he wanted all opposition to Israeli dominance to end. In the same way, most American Jews oppose the settlements, but only in the sense that they want to stop being seen as moral pariahs. It&#39;s important to remember that they have never opposed the settlements enough to actually insist on ending them. (And don&#39;t even mention the subject of reparations.)</p>
<p>Why did it take two gentile professors to bring up the subject of the elephant in the room?</p>
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		<title>By: NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israel considering strike on Iran despite US intelligence report&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?p=402392#402392&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Newt Gingrich Propagandist for Israel&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2007/12/newt-gingrich-propagandist-for-israel.html&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel considering strike on Iran despite US intelligence report</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?p=402392#402392</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to itszone.co.uk</a></p>
<p>Newt Gingrich Propagandist for Israel</p>
<p>http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2007/12/newt-gingrich-propagandist-for-israel.html</p>
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		<title>By: nonneocon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/when-will-the-w.html/comment-page-1#comment-67567</link>
		<dc:creator>nonneocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When is the New York Times going to be called out?  Has anyone noticed the nonnews there? Or the outrageous book review section that is blatantly sympathetic to the neocons?  One of the best books on what is currently happening to our country, Craig Unger&#039;s  Fall of the House of Bush ,  got a ridiculous pan by Kakutani who didn&#039;t even seem to understand what it is about. This I see continually and pervasively. The idea that there are different points of view represented at the Times is absurd.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the New York Times going to be called out?  Has anyone noticed the nonnews there? Or the outrageous book review section that is blatantly sympathetic to the neocons?  One of the best books on what is currently happening to our country, Craig Unger&#39;s  Fall of the House of Bush ,  got a ridiculous pan by Kakutani who didn&#39;t even seem to understand what it is about. This I see continually and pervasively. The idea that there are different points of view represented at the Times is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: nonneocon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2007/12/when-will-the-w.html/comment-page-1#comment-67568</link>
		<dc:creator>nonneocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When is the New York Times going to be called out?  Has anyone noticed the nonnews there? Or the outrageous book review section that is blatantly sympathetic to the neocons?  One of the best books on what is currently happening to our country, Craig Unger&#039;s  Fall of the House of Bush ,  got a ridiculous pan by Kakutani who didn&#039;t even seem to understand what it is about. This I see continually and pervasively. The idea that there are different points of view represented at the Times is absurd.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the New York Times going to be called out?  Has anyone noticed the nonnews there? Or the outrageous book review section that is blatantly sympathetic to the neocons?  One of the best books on what is currently happening to our country, Craig Unger&#39;s  Fall of the House of Bush ,  got a ridiculous pan by Kakutani who didn&#39;t even seem to understand what it is about. This I see continually and pervasively. The idea that there are different points of view represented at the Times is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, you gotta stop using this term &quot;religious left&quot; in your own idiosyncratic way.  The term has a meaning and it doesn&#039;t mean what you want to make it mean.  It refers to religious people, Christian and Jew (and maybe Muslim too, but I don&#039;t know), who are on the left side of the political spectrum.  Michael Lerner of Tikkun Magazine, for instance, or Jim Wallis at Sojourners.    Both of these guys want justice for the Palestinians.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you gotta stop using this term &quot;religious left&quot; in your own idiosyncratic way.  The term has a meaning and it doesn&#39;t mean what you want to make it mean.  It refers to religious people, Christian and Jew (and maybe Muslim too, but I don&#39;t know), who are on the left side of the political spectrum.  Michael Lerner of Tikkun Magazine, for instance, or Jim Wallis at Sojourners.    Both of these guys want justice for the Palestinians.  </p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I find the liberal left as disgusting in their flower child Pollyanna denial of reality as I find the right wing in their racist bible thumping stupidy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This what America is cycling back to:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;President Theodore Roosevelt once spoke about the importance of new immigrants giving up their old languages and allegiances in order to become equal partners in American democracy:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;``We freely extend the hand of welcome and of good fellowship to every man, no matter what his creed or birthplace, who comes here honestly intent on becoming a good United States citizen like the rest of us. . . . Americanism is a question of spirit, conviction and purpose, not of creed or birthplace. The politician who bids for the Irish or German vote, or the Irishman or German who votes as an Irishman or German, is despicable, for all citizens of this commonwealth should vote solely as Americans.&#039;&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now cry, whine, chant me,me,me,me and light candles to examine your protruding ethnic and religous navels all you want...and then wipe your narcissist slober off, quit sucking your f...... thumbs and thank God this is the only kind of blowback you are going to be subjected to.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the liberal left as disgusting in their flower child Pollyanna denial of reality as I find the right wing in their racist bible thumping stupidy.</p>
<p>This what America is cycling back to:</p>
<p>President Theodore Roosevelt once spoke about the importance of new immigrants giving up their old languages and allegiances in order to become equal partners in American democracy:</p>
<p>&#8220;We freely extend the hand of welcome and of good fellowship to every man, no matter what his creed or birthplace, who comes here honestly intent on becoming a good United States citizen like the rest of us. . . . Americanism is a question of spirit, conviction and purpose, not of creed or birthplace. The politician who bids for the Irish or German vote, or the Irishman or German who votes as an Irishman or German, is despicable, for all citizens of this commonwealth should vote solely as Americans.&#39;&#39;</p>
<p>Now cry, whine, chant me,me,me,me and light candles to examine your protruding ethnic and religous navels all you want&#8230;and then wipe your narcissist slober off, quit sucking your f&#8230;&#8230; thumbs and thank God this is the only kind of blowback you are going to be subjected to.</p>
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