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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT: Here&#039;s a link to Finkelstein&#039;s talk at the Universty of Toronto this past November 29 (Palestinian Solidarity Day). It&#039;s interesting because he spoke on something a little different from his normal theme: &quot;the coming breakup of American Zionism&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;pt. 1 (intro and beginning)&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-12.MP3&lt;br /&gt;
pt. 2&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-13.MP3&lt;br /&gt;
pt. 3 (q&amp;a)&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-14.MP3&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Since 1967 Israel has been a stage on which North American Jews have played out their perverse fantasies and a strategic asset in their pursuit of power and priveledge. If Israel has become a crazy state, and in my opinion it has, it is in no small part due to North American Jews. By abetting, supporting, its worst tendencies and freeing it of needful restraints, they have exerted a terrible influence on Israeli society. How fortunate Palestinians and Israelis will be when, in the days perhaps not far off, American Jewry bids Israel farewell.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: Here&#39;s a link to Finkelstein&#39;s talk at the Universty of Toronto this past November 29 (Palestinian Solidarity Day). It&#39;s interesting because he spoke on something a little different from his normal theme: &quot;the coming breakup of American Zionism&quot;</p>
<p>pt. 1 (intro and beginning)<br />
<a href="http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-12.MP3br">link to rabble.ca</a><br /> /><br />
pt. 2<br />
<a href="http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-13.MP3br">link to rabble.ca</a><br /> /><br />
pt. 3 (q&amp;a)<br />
<a href="http://www.rabble.ca/rpn/files/nni/nni-2008-01-14.MP3/p">link to rabble.ca</a></p>
<p>&quot;Since 1967 Israel has been a stage on which North American Jews have played out their perverse fantasies and a strategic asset in their pursuit of power and priveledge. If Israel has become a crazy state, and in my opinion it has, it is in no small part due to North American Jews. By abetting, supporting, its worst tendencies and freeing it of needful restraints, they have exerted a terrible influence on Israeli society. How fortunate Palestinians and Israelis will be when, in the days perhaps not far off, American Jewry bids Israel farewell.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed.</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jewish Zionists always attempt to create a myth whereby anyone who speaks out against them has &quot;regrets&quot; later, as if they eventually came to their senses. It&#039;s a canard designed to ward off future critics--just another in a long line of Machiavellian dirty tricks designed to make them appear beyond reproach. But their feet of clay are crumbling. Support for Zionism in the US is a mile wide, but less than an inch deep, and the levy has been breached.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewish Zionists always attempt to create a myth whereby anyone who speaks out against them has &quot;regrets&quot; later, as if they eventually came to their senses. It&#39;s a canard designed to ward off future critics&#8211;just another in a long line of Machiavellian dirty tricks designed to make them appear beyond reproach. But their feet of clay are crumbling. Support for Zionism in the US is a mile wide, but less than an inch deep, and the levy has been breached.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65971</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LA times editor has been fired by Zell:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/business/media/21latimes-web.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the same LA Times that has been under fire from CAMERA for being insufficiently pro-Israel:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=33&amp;x_article=1427&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many media watchers were predicting that Zell was going to make changes at the LA Times in order to &quot;improve&quot; its coverage of Israel once he had gained control:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=163&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is this the end of any positive coverage of Mearsheimer and Walt in the LA Times?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA times editor has been fired by Zell:</p>
<p>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/business/media/21latimes-web.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin</p>
<p>This is the same LA Times that has been under fire from CAMERA for being insufficiently pro-Israel:</p>
<p>http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=33&amp;x_article=1427</p>
<p>Many media watchers were predicting that Zell was going to make changes at the LA Times in order to &quot;improve&quot; its coverage of Israel once he had gained control:</p>
<p>http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=163</p>
<p>Is this the end of any positive coverage of Mearsheimer and Walt in the LA Times?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65972</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The truth will win out in the long run&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Beware of what you wish for.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The truth will win out in the long run&quot;.</p>
<p>Beware of what you wish for.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth is not dependent upon wishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth is not dependent upon wishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To Witty&lt;br /&gt;
Truth winning out...&lt;br /&gt;
Wishing or propaganda wont ultimately matter--the truth will win out. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The US empire is coming to an end. And as resources shrink the goyim are gonna start asking questions about the US foreign and economic policy. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Witty<br />
Truth winning out&#8230;<br />
Wishing or propaganda wont ultimately matter&#8211;the truth will win out. </p>
<p>The US empire is coming to an end. And as resources shrink the goyim are gonna start asking questions about the US foreign and economic policy. </p>
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		<title>By: Wannabe Nazi</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65974</link>
		<dc:creator>Wannabe Nazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH&lt;br /&gt;
Be very afraid you JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSS&lt;br /&gt;
We are coming to get YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU&lt;br /&gt;
Everything is all YOUR fault.&lt;br /&gt;
All the problems in the world.&lt;br /&gt;
We can&#039;t wait to start killing the Joo babies again&lt;br /&gt;
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Be afraid. Be very afraid. OOOOHHHHHHHH&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BOO!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<br />
Be very afraid you JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSS<br />
We are coming to get YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU<br />
Everything is all YOUR fault.<br />
All the problems in the world.<br />
We can&#39;t wait to start killing the Joo babies again<br />
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH</p>
<p>
Be afraid. Be very afraid. OOOOHHHHHHHH</p>
<p>BOO!</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65975</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard Witty on Weiss&#039;s comment that the truth will win out in the long run:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Beware of what you wish for.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m hard pressed to imagine what you&#039;re saying here unless you think that the real truth about Jewish support for Israel, when it finally comes out, will make Weiss look foolish, or worse.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think we have many worries from hearing too much truth, especially since so many people are working such long hours to make sure we never hear any truth at all. In Canada now there are commissars who can haul you into special courts for saying unpalatable truths. Furthermore, your offense becomes more egregious if you support your claim with news stories, magazine articles and other corroborating evidence. The commisars reason that real evidence makes your claims more believable and thus more dangerous. Silly me. I always thought of Canada as our friendly and sensible neighbor to the north.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Witty on Weiss&#39;s comment that the truth will win out in the long run:</p>
<p>&quot;Beware of what you wish for.&quot;</p>
<p>I&#39;m hard pressed to imagine what you&#39;re saying here unless you think that the real truth about Jewish support for Israel, when it finally comes out, will make Weiss look foolish, or worse.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think we have many worries from hearing too much truth, especially since so many people are working such long hours to make sure we never hear any truth at all. In Canada now there are commissars who can haul you into special courts for saying unpalatable truths. Furthermore, your offense becomes more egregious if you support your claim with news stories, magazine articles and other corroborating evidence. The commisars reason that real evidence makes your claims more believable and thus more dangerous. Silly me. I always thought of Canada as our friendly and sensible neighbor to the north.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65976</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard Witty on Weiss&#039;s comment that the truth will win out in the long run:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Beware of what you wish for.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m hard pressed to imagine what you&#039;re saying here unless you think that the real truth about Jewish support for Israel, when it finally comes out, will make Weiss look foolish, or worse.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think we have many worries from hearing too much truth, especially since so many people are working such long hours to make sure we never hear any truth at all. In Canada now there are commissars who can haul you into special courts for saying unpalatable truths. Furthermore, your offense becomes more egregious if you support your claim with news stories, magazine articles and other corroborating evidence. The commisars reason that real evidence makes your claims more believable and thus more dangerous. Silly me. I always thought of Canada as our friendly and sensible neighbor to the north.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Witty on Weiss&#39;s comment that the truth will win out in the long run:</p>
<p>&quot;Beware of what you wish for.&quot;</p>
<p>I&#39;m hard pressed to imagine what you&#39;re saying here unless you think that the real truth about Jewish support for Israel, when it finally comes out, will make Weiss look foolish, or worse.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think we have many worries from hearing too much truth, especially since so many people are working such long hours to make sure we never hear any truth at all. In Canada now there are commissars who can haul you into special courts for saying unpalatable truths. Furthermore, your offense becomes more egregious if you support your claim with news stories, magazine articles and other corroborating evidence. The commisars reason that real evidence makes your claims more believable and thus more dangerous. Silly me. I always thought of Canada as our friendly and sensible neighbor to the north.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blaine</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65977</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Guilt, Bloodlust and Presidential Politics: Ol&#039; &#039;Blood and Freedom&#039; Fred Thompson&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;at Rudely Stamped.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael Blaine&lt;br /&gt;
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Guilt, Bloodlust and Presidential Politics: Ol&#39; &#39;Blood and Freedom&#39; Fred Thompson&quot;</p>
<p>at Rudely Stamped.</p>
<p>Michael Blaine<br />
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/mearsheimer-n-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-65978</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The truth that there is a lobby that supports Israel is no revalation, and therefore doesn&#039;t really deserve special treatment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The assertion that the &quot;Israel lobby got us into Iraq&quot; is ludicrous. The &quot;Israel Lobby&quot; included strongly those that opposed the war in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is true that Israel is on the frontier of the middle east, including on the frontier of states that harbor terrorists, and on the frontier of states that control oil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, it is a nation that has European and American-like academia, free press and speech, elections, so is familiar, comfortable, attractive to those that regard civil institutions as desirable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whether diaspora Jews wish that post-trauma &lt;br /&gt;
European Jews had alternative havens (they didn&#039;t) or that naziism wasn&#039;t the last straw (it was), those are revisionist wishes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Israel was the place at this point in history that Jews stood (rather than crawled).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A good thing to stand. A good thing to stand for good, for one&#039;s own and for others.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth that there is a lobby that supports Israel is no revalation, and therefore doesn&#39;t really deserve special treatment.</p>
<p>The assertion that the &quot;Israel lobby got us into Iraq&quot; is ludicrous. The &quot;Israel Lobby&quot; included strongly those that opposed the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>It is true that Israel is on the frontier of the middle east, including on the frontier of states that harbor terrorists, and on the frontier of states that control oil.</p>
<p>And, it is a nation that has European and American-like academia, free press and speech, elections, so is familiar, comfortable, attractive to those that regard civil institutions as desirable.</p>
<p>Whether diaspora Jews wish that post-trauma <br />
European Jews had alternative havens (they didn&#39;t) or that naziism wasn&#39;t the last straw (it was), those are revisionist wishes.</p>
<p>Israel was the place at this point in history that Jews stood (rather than crawled).</p>
<p>A good thing to stand. A good thing to stand for good, for one&#39;s own and for others.</p>
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