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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Weiss - Better tell Obama&#039;s church that racial identity is dead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tucc.org/about.htm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain &quot;true to our native land,&quot; the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A congregation committed to ADORATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation preaching SALVATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation committed to LIBERATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation committed to RESTORATION. &lt;br /&gt;
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weiss &#8211; Better tell Obama&#39;s church that racial identity is dead.</p>
<p>http://tucc.org/about.htm</p>
<p>We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian&#8230; Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain &quot;true to our native land,&quot; the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.</p>
<p>The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:</p>
<p>A congregation committed to ADORATION. <br />
A congregation preaching SALVATION. <br />
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. <br />
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. <br />
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. <br />
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. <br />
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. <br />
A congregation committed to LIBERATION. <br />
A congregation committed to RESTORATION. <br />
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY. </p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil is as imprecise in his tv watching as he is in his study of Middle East politics. In the AMEX ad they realize while in Norway (after looking at genealogical records in some sort of archive) that their people actually came over from Sweden (they take a ferry then, not a plane) If Phil knew a fucking thing about Scandinavia, he&#039;d know that many &quot;Norwegians&quot; actually originated in Sweden. Anyone from Minnesota knows that.&lt;br /&gt;
But go Obama. He&#039;s a lying racist drug dealing empty suit. But he&#039;s not white! At least not completely!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil is as imprecise in his tv watching as he is in his study of Middle East politics. In the AMEX ad they realize while in Norway (after looking at genealogical records in some sort of archive) that their people actually came over from Sweden (they take a ferry then, not a plane) If Phil knew a fucking thing about Scandinavia, he&#39;d know that many &quot;Norwegians&quot; actually originated in Sweden. Anyone from Minnesota knows that.<br />
But go Obama. He&#39;s a lying racist drug dealing empty suit. But he&#39;s not white! At least not completely!</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You couldn&#039;t be serious...he&#039;s the ultimate white guilt candidate. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You couldn&#39;t be serious&#8230;he&#39;s the ultimate white guilt candidate. </p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/obama-puts-an-e.html/comment-page-1#comment-66555</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And so, I read on the internet: &quot;We are apt to have a president that is there by propitiation and not for any sane reason-just as Oprah rules by that loathsome fiat.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so, I read on the internet: &quot;We are apt to have a president that is there by propitiation and not for any sane reason-just as Oprah rules by that loathsome fiat.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: The Fanonite</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fanonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your comments sound very much like those offered by Bill Bennett on CNN. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While your own rejection of identity politics is admirable, I think you are applying the model to a very different case here. And it doesn&#039;t work. Lets hear from the Guardian&#039;s excellent columnist Gary Younge:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For there are a number of commentators - particularly, but not exclusively, conservatives - who seek to portray Obama not just as a generation removed from Jackson, but the antithesis of everything Jackson stood for. To them his success signals both the failure of “black” politics and the removal of “black” issues from the political arena. As such, his victory does not reshape our analysis of how race is understood in America; it marks a repudiation of the existence of American racism itself...In truth, [Bill Bennet, George Will&#039;s] comments really show that one of the few things that has not changed in the past 20 years is their backward and self-serving analysis of racial politics. &lt;br /&gt;
http://fanonite.org/2008/01/07/an-obama-victory-would-symbolise-a-great-deal-and-change-very-little/&lt;br /&gt;
http://fanonite.org/2008/01/07/2007-the-year-of-black-%e2%80%98media-leaders-especially-obamaby/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments sound very much like those offered by Bill Bennett on CNN. </p>
<p>While your own rejection of identity politics is admirable, I think you are applying the model to a very different case here. And it doesn&#39;t work. Lets hear from the Guardian&#39;s excellent columnist Gary Younge:</p>
<p>For there are a number of commentators &#8211; particularly, but not exclusively, conservatives &#8211; who seek to portray Obama not just as a generation removed from Jackson, but the antithesis of everything Jackson stood for. To them his success signals both the failure of “black” politics and the removal of “black” issues from the political arena. As such, his victory does not reshape our analysis of how race is understood in America; it marks a repudiation of the existence of American racism itself&#8230;In truth, [Bill Bennet, George Will&#39;s] comments really show that one of the few things that has not changed in the past 20 years is their backward and self-serving analysis of racial politics. <br />
<a href="http://fanonite.org/2008/01/07/an-obama-victory-would-symbolise-a-great-deal-and-change-very-little/<br">link to fanonite.org</a><br /> /><br />
<a href="http://fanonite.org/2008/01/07/2007-the-year-of-black-%e2%80%98media-leaders-especially-obamaby/<br">link to fanonite.org</a><br /> /></p>
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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been reading you with some interest for the last month. I thought you were refreshingly different from the rest of the deceivers but I was wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;I&#039;m still washing in the waves of Obama&#039;s great speech.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You talk like Obama is your long awaited Messiah, although you didn&#039;t lay on the bullshit as thick as your genetic twin:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=01&amp;year=2008&amp;base_name=obamas_gift#103509&lt;br /&gt;
The American Prospect&#039;s Ezra Klein:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Obama&#039;s finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don&#039;t even really inspire. They elevate. They enmesh you in a grander moment, as if history has stopped flowing passively by, and, just for an instant, contracted around you, made you aware of its presence, and your role in it. He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh, over color, over despair. The other great leaders I&#039;ve heard guide us towards a better politics, but Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves, to the place where America exists as a glittering ideal, and where we, its honored inhabitants, seem capable of achieving it, and thus of sharing in its meaning and transcendence.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Neither Abraham nor Moses decribed their actual encounters with God in anywhere near the fashion as you do in regard to your encounter with the words of the Magic Negro.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you and Ezra think the goy-animals will fall for this infantile manipulation by the god-men of Zion?     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been reading you with some interest for the last month. I thought you were refreshingly different from the rest of the deceivers but I was wrong.</p>
<p>&quot;I&#39;m still washing in the waves of Obama&#39;s great speech.&quot; </p>
<p>You talk like Obama is your long awaited Messiah, although you didn&#39;t lay on the bullshit as thick as your genetic twin:</p>
<p>http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=01&amp;year=2008&amp;base_name=obamas_gift#103509<br />
The American Prospect&#39;s Ezra Klein:</p>
<p>&quot;Obama&#39;s finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don&#39;t even really inspire. They elevate. They enmesh you in a grander moment, as if history has stopped flowing passively by, and, just for an instant, contracted around you, made you aware of its presence, and your role in it. He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh, over color, over despair. The other great leaders I&#39;ve heard guide us towards a better politics, but Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves, to the place where America exists as a glittering ideal, and where we, its honored inhabitants, seem capable of achieving it, and thus of sharing in its meaning and transcendence.&quot;</p>
<p>Neither Abraham nor Moses decribed their actual encounters with God in anywhere near the fashion as you do in regard to your encounter with the words of the Magic Negro.</p>
<p>Do you and Ezra think the goy-animals will fall for this infantile manipulation by the god-men of Zion?     </p>
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		<title>By: Thoreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Me and Emerson hate them coon and heebs, yes indeedee.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and Emerson hate them coon and heebs, yes indeedee.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm? Could you guys please enlighten me to the origins of Obama-the-racist talk.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I seem to remember I read something somewhere, apart from Pipes mad rants,that already are repeated ad nauseam, but I forget what it was.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Links please.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm? Could you guys please enlighten me to the origins of Obama-the-racist talk.</p>
<p>I seem to remember I read something somewhere, apart from Pipes mad rants,that already are repeated ad nauseam, but I forget what it was.</p>
<p>Links please.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/obama-puts-an-e.html/comment-page-1#comment-66560</link>
		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, next time I check punctuation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I guess, we have seen nothing yet:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/05/obama/index.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why are mirrors so much on my mind lately?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, next time I check punctuation.</p>
<p>But I guess, we have seen nothing yet:</p>
<p>http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/05/obama/index.html</p>
<p>Why are mirrors so much on my mind lately?</p>
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		<title>By: Instacomment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instacomment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What makes this even more interesting is the fact that Reynolds&#039; sister-in-law is African.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes this even more interesting is the fact that Reynolds&#39; sister-in-law is African.</p>
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