Comments on: The Clinton We Never Knew. Well Actually Some of Us Did http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 23:44:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Leila http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65474 Leila Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65474 <p>Huh - I'd forgotten about that side of him. I didn't read the press closely but I did read about his nastiness, his temper, and his abusiveness to "friends." </p> <p>I have been disgusted with Hilary over 1) Laney Guanier, symbolic of Hilary's willingness to throw close friends under the bus for political gain; 2) Palestine - she's a Methodist, she went to Palestine in the 90s, she knows the issues and the realities and turned her back on it all to become Senator from NY; and 3) health care - Daily Kos says her biggest contributors are insurance companies.</p> <p>I never vote on Middle East issues alone (if I did, I wouldn't vote) - but the big picture of Hilary makes her look really, really awful. Now you're reminding me of Clinton's failings. And I never liked what he did on welfare reform or Nafta. He only looks good to any of us in hindsight, after seven years of W.</p> <p>John Edwards! </p> Huh – I'd forgotten about that side of him. I didn't read the press closely but I did read about his nastiness, his temper, and his abusiveness to "friends."

I have been disgusted with Hilary over 1) Laney Guanier, symbolic of Hilary's willingness to throw close friends under the bus for political gain; 2) Palestine – she's a Methodist, she went to Palestine in the 90s, she knows the issues and the realities and turned her back on it all to become Senator from NY; and 3) health care – Daily Kos says her biggest contributors are insurance companies.

I never vote on Middle East issues alone (if I did, I wouldn't vote) – but the big picture of Hilary makes her look really, really awful. Now you're reminding me of Clinton's failings. And I never liked what he did on welfare reform or Nafta. He only looks good to any of us in hindsight, after seven years of W.

John Edwards!

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65475 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65475 <p>When is the the Washington elite going to, e.g., probe in MSM impeachment of Chaney and Bush? Shed a real spotlight on, e.g., the Office Of Special Plans? </p> When is the the Washington elite going to, e.g., probe in MSM impeachment of Chaney and Bush? Shed a real spotlight on, e.g., the Office Of Special Plans?

]]> By: Jim S. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65476 Jim S. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65476 <p>True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.</p> <p>Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).<br /> Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole. </p> True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.

Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).
Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole.

]]> By: Jim S. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65477 Jim S. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65477 <p>True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.</p> <p>Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).<br /> Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole. </p> True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.

Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).
Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole.

]]> By: Jim S. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65478 Jim S. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65478 <p>True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.</p> <p>Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).<br /> Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole. </p> True,very true. Clinton was too neoliberal in his policies, especially his economic and fiscal ones. He left a demoralized public whose apathy is a good reason why these wars are still going on.

Obama and Edwards are both superior to him. Indeed, his wife could better, if only she would jettison the old Clinton hands (Penn, Rubin, et. al.) and be her own person (isn't that what feminism is all about?).
Still, it is depressing to find all these oppressed groups-women, homosexuals, African-Americans, and yes Jewish-Americans-still look upon him with soft eyes. Just because he was good for them in their group aspect-as women, gays, blacks, jews-does not mean that he was good for them as people, nor that he was good for the country as a whole.

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65479 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65479 <p>Women, gays , blacks and Jewish Americans....What does this mean? If one is an American goy white male, one should just bend over and be thankful? Thanks so much for your concern!</p> Women, gays , blacks and Jewish Americans….What does this mean? If one is an American goy white male, one should just bend over and be thankful? Thanks so much for your concern!

]]> By: Jim S. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65480 Jim S. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65480 <p>Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant that Clinton was not interested in goy white males, and that was(is) a major problem.</p> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant that Clinton was not interested in goy white males, and that was(is) a major problem.

]]> By: Jim S. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65481 Jim S. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65481 <p>Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant that Clinton was not interested in goy white males, and that was(is) a major problem.</p> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant that Clinton was not interested in goy white males, and that was(is) a major problem.

]]> By: scorpio http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65482 scorpio Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65482 <p>agree with most of what u say Phillip, but Paula Jones and right-wing Supreme Ct opening up attacks on sitting president went too far. such an action would never be tolerated against a right-wing president like Bush. </p> agree with most of what u say Phillip, but Paula Jones and right-wing Supreme Ct opening up attacks on sitting president went too far. such an action would never be tolerated against a right-wing president like Bush.

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/01/the-clinton-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-65483 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/01/29/the-clinton-we.html#comment-65483 <p>And it's not--where has DK's impeachment gone? Who could argue BC's blow job was as important as how we got into the Iraq War? </p> And it's not–where has DK's impeachment gone? Who could argue BC's blow job was as important as how we got into the Iraq War?

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