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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/david-bromwich.html/comment-page-1#comment-63219</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the Bromwich essay: &quot;Because the legacy of the Nuremberg Trials remains vivid today, the very idea of a war crime has been treated as a thing worth steering clear of, no matter what the cost in overstretched ingenuity. Thought of a war crime does not lend itself to euphemistic reduction.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, somehow it doesn&#039;t. Last night we heard a folk musician, Spook Handy, sing a song he wrote which incorporates Iraq War references and the chorus, &quot;This train is headed for The Hague.&quot; If only it were so -- rich countries supply the judges, who clearly aren&#039;t inclined to judge the politicians who appointed them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Handy is a disciple of Pete Seeger, the 89-year-old folk icon who lives in Beacon, New York, and probably doesn&#039;t have a euphemistic bone in his body. An engaging documentary about his life, Pete Seeger: The Power of Song, was released last year (highly recommended).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2ded5x&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some amazing archival footage was located for the film. One clip from the 1930s shows Seeger&#039;s parents, both classically-trained musicians. His dad is dressed like an Old World, European Jew. They decided to tour America, presenting live classical music to the masses. The effort was met with massive uninterest. But at folk festivals in North Carolina, the Seegers learned that the hillbillies had some vital music of their own. Pete Seeger picked up the banjo, and ended up actually writing the now-classic How to Play the Five-String Banjo (1948).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Going back to Bromwich&#039;s rather colorless essay, his assertion that discussion of U.S. policy as a root cause of terrorism &quot;has barely begun to register in The New York Times, in The Washington Post, or on CNN or MSNBC&quot; made me bust out laughing. Get a grip, Dave! You might as well as search in Der Stürmer for articles about &quot;New Currents in Jewish Intellectualism.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Revolution will not be televised, not will it be covered in the Slimes or the WaPo. Print journalism is like, so 20th century (sorry, Phil).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Bromwich essay: &quot;Because the legacy of the Nuremberg Trials remains vivid today, the very idea of a war crime has been treated as a thing worth steering clear of, no matter what the cost in overstretched ingenuity. Thought of a war crime does not lend itself to euphemistic reduction.&quot;</p>
<p>No, somehow it doesn&#39;t. Last night we heard a folk musician, Spook Handy, sing a song he wrote which incorporates Iraq War references and the chorus, &quot;This train is headed for The Hague.&quot; If only it were so &#8212; rich countries supply the judges, who clearly aren&#39;t inclined to judge the politicians who appointed them.</p>
<p>Handy is a disciple of Pete Seeger, the 89-year-old folk icon who lives in Beacon, New York, and probably doesn&#39;t have a euphemistic bone in his body. An engaging documentary about his life, Pete Seeger: The Power of Song, was released last year (highly recommended).</p>
<p>http://tinyurl.com/2ded5x</p>
<p>Some amazing archival footage was located for the film. One clip from the 1930s shows Seeger&#39;s parents, both classically-trained musicians. His dad is dressed like an Old World, European Jew. They decided to tour America, presenting live classical music to the masses. The effort was met with massive uninterest. But at folk festivals in North Carolina, the Seegers learned that the hillbillies had some vital music of their own. Pete Seeger picked up the banjo, and ended up actually writing the now-classic How to Play the Five-String Banjo (1948).</p>
<p>Going back to Bromwich&#39;s rather colorless essay, his assertion that discussion of U.S. policy as a root cause of terrorism &quot;has barely begun to register in The New York Times, in The Washington Post, or on CNN or MSNBC&quot; made me bust out laughing. Get a grip, Dave! You might as well as search in Der Stürmer for articles about &quot;New Currents in Jewish Intellectualism.&quot; </p>
<p>The Revolution will not be televised, not will it be covered in the Slimes or the WaPo. Print journalism is like, so 20th century (sorry, Phil).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/david-bromwich.html/comment-page-1#comment-63220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, I wrote this before reading Phil&#039;s explicit reference to Pete Seeger in the post above. Feeble minds think alike!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I wrote this before reading Phil&#39;s explicit reference to Pete Seeger in the post above. Feeble minds think alike!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Cause&quot; is a VERY difficult relationship to proove.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its an important distinction, that too often leads to FAILED diagnoses and treatments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As if there were a single &quot;cause&quot; to anything in the world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Events occur in conditions. In different conditions, different events occur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is still responsibility to participate in effecting conditions, if you have the power, but &quot;cause&quot; is itself a lazy word.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Cause&quot; is a VERY difficult relationship to proove.</p>
<p>Its an important distinction, that too often leads to FAILED diagnoses and treatments.</p>
<p>As if there were a single &quot;cause&quot; to anything in the world.</p>
<p>Events occur in conditions. In different conditions, different events occur.</p>
<p>There is still responsibility to participate in effecting conditions, if you have the power, but &quot;cause&quot; is itself a lazy word.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And further,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;US policy &quot;caused&quot; Arab terrorism&quot; is a lazy use of an already lazy word.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And further,</p>
<p>&quot;US policy &quot;caused&quot; Arab terrorism&quot; is a lazy use of an already lazy word.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot; &#039;Cause&#039; is itself a lazy word.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And science is all a crock. Newton&#039;s laws of motion? F = ma? Mere casuistry!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or, in the alternative, Witty&#039;s gauzy semantic fog, in which cause and effect birth each other like chicken and egg, is an elaborate exercise in obscurantism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Too bad the English language, with its oppressive subject-verb-object syntax, is so resistant to efforts to erase the distinction between act, actor, and acted-upon. You would find this so much easier in Japanese, Richard. Onegai shimasu, sensei.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>&quot; &#39;Cause&#39; is itself a lazy word.&quot;</p>
<p>And science is all a crock. Newton&#39;s laws of motion? F = ma? Mere casuistry!</p>
<p>Or, in the alternative, Witty&#39;s gauzy semantic fog, in which cause and effect birth each other like chicken and egg, is an elaborate exercise in obscurantism.</p>
<p>Too bad the English language, with its oppressive subject-verb-object syntax, is so resistant to efforts to erase the distinction between act, actor, and acted-upon. You would find this so much easier in Japanese, Richard. Onegai shimasu, sensei.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blaine</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/david-bromwich.html/comment-page-1#comment-63224</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul broached these issues in the Republican &quot;debates&quot; of the last few months. He put the thesis front-and-center: Some people hate the US because it needlessly interferes in their lives. In his writings, Bromwhich needs to consider Ron Paul.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul broached these issues in the Republican &quot;debates&quot; of the last few months. He put the thesis front-and-center: Some people hate the US because it needlessly interferes in their lives. In his writings, Bromwhich needs to consider Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Condell</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/david-bromwich.html/comment-page-1#comment-63225</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;As if there were a single &quot;cause&quot; to anything in the world.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the subtext being: &#039;You can&#039;t blame Israel for the Occupation&#039; and/or &#039;you can&#039;t blame the neocons for Iraq&#039;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Its an important distinction, that too often leads to FAILED diagnoses and treatments.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Such as &#039;the occupation causes the terrorism, so get off their land and see what happens&#039; ? Maybe that is wrong, but the only way to find out would be to try it, no?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Events occur in conditions. In different conditions, different events occur.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of COURSE, why didn&#039;t I think of that? Different conditions, different events.. brilliant. I dips me lid.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;As if there were a single &quot;cause&quot; to anything in the world.&#39;</p>
<p>the subtext being: &#39;You can&#39;t blame Israel for the Occupation&#39; and/or &#39;you can&#39;t blame the neocons for Iraq&#39;. </p>
<p>&#39;Its an important distinction, that too often leads to FAILED diagnoses and treatments.&#39;</p>
<p>Such as &#39;the occupation causes the terrorism, so get off their land and see what happens&#39; ? Maybe that is wrong, but the only way to find out would be to try it, no?</p>
<p>&#39;Events occur in conditions. In different conditions, different events occur.&#39;</p>
<p>Of COURSE, why didn&#39;t I think of that? Different conditions, different events.. brilliant. I dips me lid.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/david-bromwich.html/comment-page-1#comment-63226</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t forget Newton on action and reaction. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
Don&#39;t forget Newton on action and reaction. </p>
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