Comments on: Sympathy for Spitzer http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Sun, 27 May 2012 21:50:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Sword of Gideon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63438 The Sword of Gideon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63438 <p>Somehow the idea that Phil Weiss has some sort of sexual hang up isn't exactly shocking. Two points though. He ran around on his wife and three kids. Not exactly the actions of an honorable man. Second, we still have organized crime here in NY. Maybe the mafia, the Russians, the Albanians, who knows. But there is no way that a high end escort service like this runs without kicking upstairs to somebody. He put himself in a position to be blackmailed. And yes, Ed, Keating, MM, and all the rest. I know that the Mossad has pictures on everybody and is blackmailing well everybody. Because the Mossad knows everything about everybody all the time. Missing Egyptian and Syrian war plans in 1973. Well that was just an oops.</p> Somehow the idea that Phil Weiss has some sort of sexual hang up isn't exactly shocking. Two points though. He ran around on his wife and three kids. Not exactly the actions of an honorable man. Second, we still have organized crime here in NY. Maybe the mafia, the Russians, the Albanians, who knows. But there is no way that a high end escort service like this runs without kicking upstairs to somebody. He put himself in a position to be blackmailed. And yes, Ed, Keating, MM, and all the rest. I know that the Mossad has pictures on everybody and is blackmailing well everybody. Because the Mossad knows everything about everybody all the time. Missing Egyptian and Syrian war plans in 1973. Well that was just an oops.

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63439 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63439 <p>I'm not sure what happened to Phil, exactly, but he's picked a pretty strange moment to become a sexual revolutionary. Men who pay for sex in our modern society are not the same as men who have affairs. If Spitzer had an affair, and it was revealed, he'd survive. But when Mr. Clean is involved in a prostitution ring . . .<br /> Phil's complete confusion on this makes his own sexual issues (namely, his erotic and unrequited love for terrorism) more understandable.</p> I'm not sure what happened to Phil, exactly, but he's picked a pretty strange moment to become a sexual revolutionary. Men who pay for sex in our modern society are not the same as men who have affairs. If Spitzer had an affair, and it was revealed, he'd survive. But when Mr. Clean is involved in a prostitution ring . . .
Phil's complete confusion on this makes his own sexual issues (namely, his erotic and unrequited love for terrorism) more understandable.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63440 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63440 <p>Phil,<br /> Preserve your dignity. You don't need to confess in public.</p> <p>Compassion is wonderful, and appropriately in the public sphere. Preserve the ability to publicly express compassion for others.</p> <p>Save the confessions for confidential settings.</p> Phil,
Preserve your dignity. You don't need to confess in public.

Compassion is wonderful, and appropriately in the public sphere. Preserve the ability to publicly express compassion for others.

Save the confessions for confidential settings.

]]> By: Chuck http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63441 Chuck Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63441 <p>Sex with a hooker? Yuck. How does the male ego really get fed when you have to pay for it. I'd be more inclined to believe they should pay me.</p> <p>Last week I ran into a woman with whom I am a little bit acquainted socially. She rammed her boobs into me...hard and whispered that I should buy her a cocktail sometime. I was flattered enough to laugh about it with a couple pals. But all I have to do to remove every bit of temptation from my sometimes intemperate head is to remind myself as to what that would likely do to my relationship with my 2 adult and 2 in college kids and all interest dissipates. </p> <p>The most essential element of leadership is setting a good example. As the male chauvinist pig head of my family, being caught with another woman would contradict everything I've taught my kids about the sacredness of family.</p> <p>And yes, I expect the same standard of leadership to be met by politicians. Only one candidate clearly meets that standard - Ron Paul. Neither Hillary with her towering pyramid of lies nor Obama who writes letters on behalf of Rezko even come close.</p> Sex with a hooker? Yuck. How does the male ego really get fed when you have to pay for it. I'd be more inclined to believe they should pay me.

Last week I ran into a woman with whom I am a little bit acquainted socially. She rammed her boobs into me…hard and whispered that I should buy her a cocktail sometime. I was flattered enough to laugh about it with a couple pals. But all I have to do to remove every bit of temptation from my sometimes intemperate head is to remind myself as to what that would likely do to my relationship with my 2 adult and 2 in college kids and all interest dissipates.

The most essential element of leadership is setting a good example. As the male chauvinist pig head of my family, being caught with another woman would contradict everything I've taught my kids about the sacredness of family.

And yes, I expect the same standard of leadership to be met by politicians. Only one candidate clearly meets that standard – Ron Paul. Neither Hillary with her towering pyramid of lies nor Obama who writes letters on behalf of Rezko even come close.

]]> By: cooper http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63442 cooper Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63442 <p>Phil-</p> <p>Nice Jewish. QED.</p> <p>Cooper</p> Phil-

Nice Jewish. QED.

Cooper

]]> By: cooper http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63443 cooper Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63443 <p>PS:</p> <p>Phil, when you wake up and remember writing<br /> this- or when some sad bastid from your past<br /> calls you up to gloat about it- remember<br /> that its never to late to stop drinking.</p> <p>Yrs,</p> <p>Cooper</p> PS:

Phil, when you wake up and remember writing
this- or when some sad bastid from your past
calls you up to gloat about it- remember
that its never to late to stop drinking.

Yrs,

Cooper

]]> By: Cooper http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63444 Cooper Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63444 <p>PPS-</p> <p>Phil, I was asked to pass this along:</p> <p>In vino veritas....Signed, M. Gibson</p> PPS-

Phil, I was asked to pass this along:

In vino veritas….Signed, M. Gibson

]]> By: neocognitism http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63445 neocognitism Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63445 <p>"Men who pay for sex in our modern society are not the same as men who have affairs."</p> <p>I agree. The men who have affairs are lying to themselves, and to whomever they are having a tryst with. The men who go for pros are being honest with themselves, and to the pro who is also being honest. Honesty gets the ethical square in this comparison. </p> <p>Affairs are for cowards who could care less about who they hurt. A pro is a lot safer and localizes the pain to the unsuspecting spouse.</p> <p>Who cares if Spitzer is seeing a pro? I blame it half on his wife, if you want to place blame. But in this lying society where the escort business and human trafficing business are booming, nobody in the elite class has any moral standing to say anything, since they're the biggest consumers by far.</p> <p>For instance, it's an open "secret" that Wall Street guys, Spitzer's nemeses, are the worst. Not only do many of them have a wife and kids, and a mistress or two, they also see prostitutes to do drugs with. I'm not even exaggerating. </p> <p>Spitzer should continue to do as he is doing and just move on. He apologized to his wife in public, now they can go home and discuss why they aren't having sex and what they are having is boring. Perhaps together they could watch "Eyes Wide Shut" by Stanley Kubrick, or rewatch it. Everybody who is up in arms about his sex life should.</p> "Men who pay for sex in our modern society are not the same as men who have affairs."

I agree. The men who have affairs are lying to themselves, and to whomever they are having a tryst with. The men who go for pros are being honest with themselves, and to the pro who is also being honest. Honesty gets the ethical square in this comparison.

Affairs are for cowards who could care less about who they hurt. A pro is a lot safer and localizes the pain to the unsuspecting spouse.

Who cares if Spitzer is seeing a pro? I blame it half on his wife, if you want to place blame. But in this lying society where the escort business and human trafficing business are booming, nobody in the elite class has any moral standing to say anything, since they're the biggest consumers by far.

For instance, it's an open "secret" that Wall Street guys, Spitzer's nemeses, are the worst. Not only do many of them have a wife and kids, and a mistress or two, they also see prostitutes to do drugs with. I'm not even exaggerating.

Spitzer should continue to do as he is doing and just move on. He apologized to his wife in public, now they can go home and discuss why they aren't having sex and what they are having is boring. Perhaps together they could watch "Eyes Wide Shut" by Stanley Kubrick, or rewatch it. Everybody who is up in arms about his sex life should.

]]> By: neocognitism http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63446 neocognitism Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63446 <p>One thing to add. Given the love affair the country has with series like Sex and the City, and Desperate Housewives, is it really appropriate at all to cast Spitzer's wife as "wronged?" </p> <p>For all we know, she could have a guy on the side, and be totally comfortable with it. Maybe she told Spitzer he should look elsewhere in the first place, and that it was perfectly fine!</p> <p>All the people finding themselves offended by this are projecting their assumptions and morals on the situation just a tad too much, methinks.</p> One thing to add. Given the love affair the country has with series like Sex and the City, and Desperate Housewives, is it really appropriate at all to cast Spitzer's wife as "wronged?"

For all we know, she could have a guy on the side, and be totally comfortable with it. Maybe she told Spitzer he should look elsewhere in the first place, and that it was perfectly fine!

All the people finding themselves offended by this are projecting their assumptions and morals on the situation just a tad too much, methinks.

]]> By: Jewlatto http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/im-a-52-year-ol.html/comment-page-1#comment-63447 Jewlatto Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/10/im-a-52-year-ol.html#comment-63447 <p>"Israeli at center of Spitzer scandal"</p> <p>Published: 03/10/2008</p> <p>The alleged procurer in the prostitution scandal surrounding New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has an Israeli passport. </p> <p>A federal magistrate in New York ordered Mark "Michael" Brener held without bail after his arrest last Thursday related to allegations that he headed the Emperors VIP Club, described by police as a high-priced prostitution ring.</p> <p>The Associated Press reported that $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport were elements in the denial of bail to Brener, 62. Brener's lawyer said he has been a U.S. citizen for 20 years. </p> <p>The New York Times has reported that Spitzer is the "Client 9" described in the search warrant that led to the arrests of Brener and four alleged colleagues. </p> <p>Spitzer, a Jewish lawyer whose office conducted serious investigations of at least two Jewish organizations when he was state attorney general, made a brief statement to the media Monday admitting he had let down his family and the public. He did not offer any details.</p> <p>SOURCE: http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/107452.html</p> "Israeli at center of Spitzer scandal"

Published: 03/10/2008

The alleged procurer in the prostitution scandal surrounding New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has an Israeli passport.

A federal magistrate in New York ordered Mark "Michael" Brener held without bail after his arrest last Thursday related to allegations that he headed the Emperors VIP Club, described by police as a high-priced prostitution ring.

The Associated Press reported that $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport were elements in the denial of bail to Brener, 62. Brener's lawyer said he has been a U.S. citizen for 20 years.

The New York Times has reported that Spitzer is the "Client 9" described in the search warrant that led to the arrests of Brener and four alleged colleagues.

Spitzer, a Jewish lawyer whose office conducted serious investigations of at least two Jewish organizations when he was state attorney general, made a brief statement to the media Monday admitting he had let down his family and the public. He did not offer any details.

SOURCE: link to jta.org

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