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		<title>By: Clara</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62351</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe you dont refer to Joachim Martillo often because his honesty is too much even for you? The truth set my people free, Phil. Where will the truth lead (Ashkenazi elites) yours? &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you dont refer to Joachim Martillo often because his honesty is too much even for you? The truth set my people free, Phil. Where will the truth lead (Ashkenazi elites) yours? </p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62352</link>
		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is no real evidence that the megadonars to Israel advocacy and Jewish communal networks care much about Jews in less exalted financial classes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell some of the megadonars are quite enthusiastic about bringing reliable conservative white evangelical Christian Zionists into the web of control as footsoldiers and low-level professional advocates because these non-Jews have practically no qualms about abuse of Palestians or about engaging in a conspiracy against rights of Arab and Muslim Americans.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no real evidence that the megadonars to Israel advocacy and Jewish communal networks care much about Jews in less exalted financial classes.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell some of the megadonars are quite enthusiastic about bringing reliable conservative white evangelical Christian Zionists into the web of control as footsoldiers and low-level professional advocates because these non-Jews have practically no qualms about abuse of Palestians or about engaging in a conspiracy against rights of Arab and Muslim Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is something strange about this term &#039;Palestinian hanging&#039;. When you look, for instance, at the Wikipedia article on the term you would get the impression that it has but little to do with Palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The article mentions the use of this horrific torture by the medieval inquisition, in Auschwitz, by the Turkish security forces, in Abu Ghraib, and only in the very last sentence (and that in a quote) its &#039;alleged&#039; use by Israeli soldiers is mentioned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Israeli High Court banned torture in 1999. Nevertheless torture kept going on in Israel. See the following article by Gideon Levy:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871239.html&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something strange about this term &#39;Palestinian hanging&#39;. When you look, for instance, at the Wikipedia article on the term you would get the impression that it has but little to do with Palestinians.</p>
<p>The article mentions the use of this horrific torture by the medieval inquisition, in Auschwitz, by the Turkish security forces, in Abu Ghraib, and only in the very last sentence (and that in a quote) its &#39;alleged&#39; use by Israeli soldiers is mentioned.</p>
<p>The Israeli High Court banned torture in 1999. Nevertheless torture kept going on in Israel. See the following article by Gideon Levy:</p>
<p>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871239.html</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62354</link>
		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The April 2003 Report by the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel contains inter alia the following paragraphs:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;In contrast with the years 2000-2001, the years 2002-2003 saw a deterioration in the treatment of Palestinian detainees by the GSS: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Each month, hundreds of Palestinians were subjected to one degree or another of torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment (ill-treatment), at the hands of the GSS and bodies working on its behalf. By way of comparison - in September 2001 we estimated that the total number of detainees being subjected to torture and other ill-treatment reached &#039;only&#039; dozens. The numbers have thus increased dramatically. &lt;br /&gt;
Each month, the ill-treatment reaching the level of torture as defined in international law was inflicted in dozens of cases, and possibly more. In other words - torture in Israel had once more become routine. &lt;br /&gt;
Information obtained by the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel shows that official sources admitted using many torture methods, including slapping, &#039;bending,&#039; shaking, sleep deprivation, and prolonged shackling.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Rubber Stamps&#039; for the GSS: The HCJ, The Attorney General, and The State Prosecutor&#039;s Office&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The bodies which are supposed to keep the GSS under scrutiny and ensure that interrogations are conducted lawfully acted , instead, as rubberstamps for decisions made by the GSS. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The High Court of Justice did not accept EVEN ONE of the 124 petitions submitted by the Public Committee Against Torture against prohibiting detainees under interrogation from meeting their attorneys during the years 2002-2003.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The State Prosecutor&#039;s Office routinely transfers the complaints made by interrogees to a GSS agent for investigation, and it is little wonder that he did not find in even a single case that GSS agents tortured a Palestinian &#039;unnecessarily&#039;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Attorney General grants - wholesale, and with no exception - the &#039;necessity defense&#039; approval for every single case of torture. &lt;br /&gt;
The result is a total, hermetic, impenetrable and unconditional protection that envelops the GSS system of torture, and enables it to continue undisturbed, with no supervision of scrutiny to speak of.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The April 2003 Report by the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel contains inter alia the following paragraphs:</p>
<p>&quot;In contrast with the years 2000-2001, the years 2002-2003 saw a deterioration in the treatment of Palestinian detainees by the GSS: </p>
<p>Each month, hundreds of Palestinians were subjected to one degree or another of torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment (ill-treatment), at the hands of the GSS and bodies working on its behalf. By way of comparison &#8211; in September 2001 we estimated that the total number of detainees being subjected to torture and other ill-treatment reached &#39;only&#39; dozens. The numbers have thus increased dramatically. <br />
Each month, the ill-treatment reaching the level of torture as defined in international law was inflicted in dozens of cases, and possibly more. In other words &#8211; torture in Israel had once more become routine. <br />
Information obtained by the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel shows that official sources admitted using many torture methods, including slapping, &#39;bending,&#39; shaking, sleep deprivation, and prolonged shackling.</p>
<p>&#39;Rubber Stamps&#39; for the GSS: The HCJ, The Attorney General, and The State Prosecutor&#39;s Office</p>
<p>The bodies which are supposed to keep the GSS under scrutiny and ensure that interrogations are conducted lawfully acted , instead, as rubberstamps for decisions made by the GSS. </p>
<p>The High Court of Justice did not accept EVEN ONE of the 124 petitions submitted by the Public Committee Against Torture against prohibiting detainees under interrogation from meeting their attorneys during the years 2002-2003.</p>
<p>The State Prosecutor&#39;s Office routinely transfers the complaints made by interrogees to a GSS agent for investigation, and it is little wonder that he did not find in even a single case that GSS agents tortured a Palestinian &#39;unnecessarily&#39;. </p>
<p>The Attorney General grants &#8211; wholesale, and with no exception &#8211; the &#39;necessity defense&#39; approval for every single case of torture. <br />
The result is a total, hermetic, impenetrable and unconditional protection that envelops the GSS system of torture, and enables it to continue undisturbed, with no supervision of scrutiny to speak of.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The BIG question is what is the goal?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. The improvement of Palestinian lives&lt;br /&gt;
2. The dissing of Jewish culture&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BIG question is what is the goal?</p>
<p>1. The improvement of Palestinian lives<br />
2. The dissing of Jewish culture</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62356</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or, perhaps the improvement of Jewish culture by emphasis on practising the commandments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;IF you keep my commandments, I will give you the rain in its time ...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That is an assertion with the authority of TRUTH.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, perhaps the improvement of Jewish culture by emphasis on practising the commandments.</p>
<p>&quot;IF you keep my commandments, I will give you the rain in its time &#8230;&quot;</p>
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That is an assertion with the authority of TRUTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62357</link>
		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israel is consolidated on a politicized ethnic fundamentalist ideology that combines racism, extremist organic nationalism, biological determinism, eugenics, theories of national decline through race-mixing, concepts of national revival through racial purity, social Darwinism, essentialism, and primordialism. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As such the State of Israel is a Nazi state, and racist Jewish supporters of the State of Israel like Richard Witty are supporters of Nazism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Believing that supporting the continued existence of the State of Israel has any connection with improving Jewish culture is kokhen kugl mit khazershmalts (cooking kugel with lard), to wit, dressing up non-Jewish ideas (in this case Nazism) as somehow Jewish.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite Phil&#039;s claim, my analysis is not racialist. People like Witty are the racists. I have a long time interest in substate and transstate political actors and in the failure of modern political science to deal with them adequately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I did not highly prize Yiddish culture, I would probably not spent so much time in studying it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have the same relation to German culture, and the borderland between Yiddish and German cultures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;True love can see flaws. Love that does not or refuses to see flaws is either denial or delusion.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is consolidated on a politicized ethnic fundamentalist ideology that combines racism, extremist organic nationalism, biological determinism, eugenics, theories of national decline through race-mixing, concepts of national revival through racial purity, social Darwinism, essentialism, and primordialism. </p>
<p>As such the State of Israel is a Nazi state, and racist Jewish supporters of the State of Israel like Richard Witty are supporters of Nazism.</p>
<p>Believing that supporting the continued existence of the State of Israel has any connection with improving Jewish culture is kokhen kugl mit khazershmalts (cooking kugel with lard), to wit, dressing up non-Jewish ideas (in this case Nazism) as somehow Jewish.</p>
<p>Despite Phil&#39;s claim, my analysis is not racialist. People like Witty are the racists. I have a long time interest in substate and transstate political actors and in the failure of modern political science to deal with them adequately.</p>
<p>If I did not highly prize Yiddish culture, I would probably not spent so much time in studying it.</p>
<p>I have the same relation to German culture, and the borderland between Yiddish and German cultures.</p>
<p>True love can see flaws. Love that does not or refuses to see flaws is either denial or delusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62358</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your reaction to my short post, does not resemble it in any manner Joachim.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What is your fascination with name-calling?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Or, perhaps the improvement of Jewish culture by emphasis on practising the commandments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;IF you keep my commandments, I will give you the rain in its time ...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That is an assertion with the authority of TRUTH.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil describes one of his purposes to remind Jews of the nut, the jewel, of what constitutes Jewish culture, the ethical commandments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is EXACTLY what I propose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way for Israel to be a Jewish state is for Jews as individuals and as collective entities (the state) to implement the ethical.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, as a state, as a Zionist entity, not as an impractical &quot;fact on the ground&quot; of Jewish exclusion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction to my short post, does not resemble it in any manner Joachim.</p>
<p>What is your fascination with name-calling?</p>
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&quot;Or, perhaps the improvement of Jewish culture by emphasis on practising the commandments.</p>
<p>&quot;IF you keep my commandments, I will give you the rain in its time &#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>
That is an assertion with the authority of TRUTH.&quot;</p>
<p>Phil describes one of his purposes to remind Jews of the nut, the jewel, of what constitutes Jewish culture, the ethical commandments.</p>
<p>That is EXACTLY what I propose.</p>
<p>The way for Israel to be a Jewish state is for Jews as individuals and as collective entities (the state) to implement the ethical.</p>
<p>But, as a state, as a Zionist entity, not as an impractical &quot;fact on the ground&quot; of Jewish exclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: bondo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62359</link>
		<dc:creator>bondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I generally don&#039;t mention Joachim Martillo&#039;s stuff because it&#039;s too out there for me, too crazily brilliant,  too much racialism.&quot; &quot;antisemitism&quot;. whatever. jews cannot handle the truth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;joachim martillo is worth reading and referring to and using as a reference. beats the jews that are y0ur buddies and who hide the truth.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I generally don&#39;t mention Joachim Martillo&#39;s stuff because it&#39;s too out there for me, too crazily brilliant,  too much racialism.&quot; &quot;antisemitism&quot;. whatever. jews cannot handle the truth.</p>
<p>joachim martillo is worth reading and referring to and using as a reference. beats the jews that are y0ur buddies and who hide the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: bondo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/its-sunday-read.html/comment-page-1#comment-62360</link>
		<dc:creator>bondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I generally don&#039;t mention Joachim Martillo&#039;s stuff because it&#039;s too out there for me, too crazily brilliant,  too much racialism.&quot; &quot;antisemitism&quot;. whatever. jews cannot handle the truth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;joachim martillo is worth reading and referring to and using as a reference. beats the jews that are y0ur buddies and who hide the truth.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I generally don&#39;t mention Joachim Martillo&#39;s stuff because it&#39;s too out there for me, too crazily brilliant,  too much racialism.&quot; &quot;antisemitism&quot;. whatever. jews cannot handle the truth.</p>
<p>joachim martillo is worth reading and referring to and using as a reference. beats the jews that are y0ur buddies and who hide the truth.</p>
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