Matthews Is a Mensch, Scarborough Is a 7-Letter Word Beginning With ‘A’

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I shed no tears over the news that Tucker Carlson is out. I’ve always found him entitled; it’s no surprise that his father makes tons from neocons. Well, last night Chris Matthews had Carlson as a talking head on his program. It was a generous and kind gesture to a guy who must be in pain. Further evidence of Matthews’s greatness.

Speaking of the maleness of MSNBC’s political team, let it be noted that a few weeks ago, maybe as far back as two months, the self-important Joe Scarborough was scornful on air toward Rachel Maddow, taunting her over her assertion that the religious right is on the decline. Scarborough’s tone struck me as personal and mean. He seemed to hold over Maddow, who’s a lesbian, his claim to normalness and his connection with real America (before he was a hack, he was once a congressman from Florida). He said in so many words, You won’t be singin that tune next November, when the religious right delivers again! Well: Rachel Maddow was right. She had seen the writing on the wall in McCain’s rise and Huckabee’s lameness.  A tide that began in 1978 has broken. One of the great uncovered stories of the ’08 campaign. (Up there with the stranglehold of the Religious Left, the Israel lobby).

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  1. Jim Haygood
    March 11, 2008, 2:10 pm

    "Rachel Maddow was right. She had seen the writing on the wall in McCain's rise."

    What does she see in McCain's pilgrimage to Israel with Joe Lieberman in tow?

    This strikes me as provocative in multiple respects:

    1. It will disturb hard-right Republicans who don't approve of McCain's penchant for cooperating with Democrats.

    2. It sets an unusual precedent of visiting a foreign country during a domestic political campaign. The Slimes bearded Mike Huckabee for going to the Caymans just a couple of weeks ago.

    link to nytimes.com

    3. It's certainly an in-your-face, Likudnik-flavored gesture toward the antiwar and anti-zionist contingent.

    Will either of the Democrats have the guts to confront McCain on just what he means by this? I'm not holding my breath. More likely, they're booking their own flights to Tel Aviv. Got to secure Shmuel Rosner's endorsement in Haaretz, if not a kosher rating from the J. Post.

    And so it goes … obviously, there is no Lobby. ;-)

  2. Charles Keating
    March 11, 2008, 4:48 pm

    Yes. Compare: Oh no, not cheap moral equality. Some Germans never learn:

    link to iht.com

  3. Michael Blaine
    March 11, 2008, 5:15 pm

    "Tucker Carlson is out."

    He was one of the least intelligent, least imaginative, and least articulate personalitites on TV.

  4. The Sword of Gideon
    March 11, 2008, 6:43 pm

    Kind of sorry you missed those fun days on the eastern front aren't you Keating. Babi Yay, Treblinka. It would have been a blast, right.

  5. samuel burke
    March 11, 2008, 7:27 pm

    the christian lobby is brain dead and clueless, they are would be national fascists and would favor a police state with real id's for americans so that citizenship can be proven on demand on the streets of our once fair nation.

    we are living in interesting times.

  6. Jim Haygood
    March 11, 2008, 8:11 pm

    Oh my, oh my. Since Charles didn't quote from his IHT link, I will. A visit to Israel by 27 German Roman Catholic bishops has gone badly wrong:

    ————

    The trouble started back in Germany when newspapers published more blunt remarks by two southern German bishops: Gregor Maria Hanke of Eichstätte and Walter Mixa of Augsburg.

    "In the morning, we see the photos of the inhuman Warsaw ghetto, and this evening we travel to the ghetto in Ramallah," Hanke was quoted as saying by Suddeutsche Zeitung, the German newspaper. "That makes you angry." Mixa described the situation in Ramallah as "ghetto-like" and said the situation was "almost racism."

    The bishops said they had been reacting to an emotional meeting with Palestinian Christians and a stop at a children's hospital in Bethlehem, in the occupied West Bank, where nurses spoke of the hardships mothers faced because of security restrictions by Israeli authorities.

    A third member of the delegation, Cardinal Joachim Meisner, the archbishop of Cologne, was quoted by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung as likening the separation barrier in the West Bank to the Berlin Wall. "I never thought I would have to see something like this ever again in my life," said Meisner, who is from the former East Germany.

    ————

    One of the great untouchable subjects in the U.S. mainstream press is how Israel's harsh occupation is slowing eroding the Palestinian Christian community. Archbishop Rowan Williams of the Anglican church in the UK has commented frankly about this subject. And now, so have the German bishops.

    But as Israel's fat, dumb cash cow, the majority-Christian U.S. really doesn't need to know about this. So the mainstream media doesn't tell them.

    For the record: (1) The Palestinian ghetto DOES resemble the Warsaw ghetto; (2) Israel's wall DOES resemble the Berlin wall. (3) Zionists DO have a common cultural connection with Nazi-era Germany. It doesn't mean they ARE Nazis. But they share certain habits of thought with them.

  7. Glenn Condell
    March 11, 2008, 10:40 pm

    'But they share certain habits of thought with them.'

    Yes. Eretz Israel = lebensraum.

    I made this comparison in a web-spat maybe eight years ago and had my computer assailed by some sort of viral infection, along with dozens of threats from anonymous Zionazis. Even some fellow travelling antiwar progs thought it beyond the pale.

    I don't think it's so far 'out there' any more, but I can't decide whether that's a good thing or not. Like Tutu's and Carter's use of 'apartheid' it is a valid comparison, and while acceptance of it may be a sign of further W/M driven thawing, it may also describe a hardening of attitudes toward Israel that must worry anyone who wants it to survive.

  8. Glenn Condell
    March 11, 2008, 10:41 pm

    'But they share certain habits of thought with them.'

    Yes. Eretz Israel = lebensraum.

    I made this comparison in a web-spat maybe eight years ago and had my computer assailed by some sort of viral infection, along with dozens of threats from anonymous Zionazis. Even some fellow travelling antiwar progs thought it beyond the pale.

    I don't think it's so far 'out there' any more, but I can't decide whether that's a good thing or not. Like Tutu's and Carter's use of 'apartheid' it is a valid comparison, and while acceptance of it may be a sign of further W/M driven thawing, it may also describe a hardening of attitudes toward Israel that must worry anyone who wants it to survive.

  9. the Sword of Gideon
    March 11, 2008, 10:53 pm

    You know Haygood, just when I think you can't get anymore idiotic you go still lower. Guess what the Christian community in ISRAEL is growing, and its the only Christian community in the middle east that is. The Berlin wall was built to keep people in, Israel's wall is built to keep suicide bombers out. And has been very effective. And if you think that any of this is like the Warsaw ghetto you really are demented. I think that the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, who pretty much all died, would have traded places with anybody in the Gaza strip in a nanosecond. And btw, when hamas breached the borderwall with EGYPT, they wall looked pretty good and seemed to have plenty of money to but out the stores in these towns on the Egyptian side

  10. LeaNder
    March 12, 2008, 10:24 am

    Basically, Bill Pearlman, I don't like the Nazi or Warsaw Ghetto comparison either. But:

    "Israel's wall is built to keep suicide bombers out. And has been very effective."

    link to southjerusalem.com

    In fact, the attack showed that an Israeli policy of divisions and fragmentation has failed. The gunman was from Jabel Mukaber, a Palestinian neighborhood of annexed East Jerusalem, on the Israeli side of the security fence. The fence was supposed to put Israelis on one side, Palestinians on the other. Rather than dividing Israel from occupied territory, it divides parts of occupied territory from each other.

  11. stevieb
    March 12, 2008, 12:47 pm

    If you think the Warsaw ghetto was in worse shape than Gaza you are even more delusional than you so obviously appear to be.

    What makes you think that? The Warsaw ghetto was under Nazi occupation for how long? 5-7 years?

    How so typically, hysterically exaggerated are the zionist 'memories' of 'their' own unique, unparalled, holiest suffering….

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