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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/my-dinner-partn.html/comment-page-1#comment-62671</link>
		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, Phil Weiss is given to attending  dinner parties where the fellow attendees hate Israel.   STOP THE PRESSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Phil Weiss is given to attending  dinner parties where the fellow attendees hate Israel.   STOP THE PRESSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s trying to tell you it isn&#039;t only the poor &quot;ignorant&quot; folk who are getting sick and tired of paying Israels way. They have health care, I pay for their health care at the time of struggling to pay my families health care. Millions of Americans have no health care. Welfare is a bad word, Americans are lectured to be self reliant this while we pay for Israel&#039;s welfare. Anyone objects are labelled anti Semites. I don&#039;t fool myself that so many Jews are only just aware of the problem,  they&#039;re aware now most of us don&#039;t give a damn any more. When the economy crunch gets worse, you wait and see the response to your ADL and your AIPAC when they start yelling names. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#39;s trying to tell you it isn&#39;t only the poor &quot;ignorant&quot; folk who are getting sick and tired of paying Israels way. They have health care, I pay for their health care at the time of struggling to pay my families health care. Millions of Americans have no health care. Welfare is a bad word, Americans are lectured to be self reliant this while we pay for Israel&#39;s welfare. Anyone objects are labelled anti Semites. I don&#39;t fool myself that so many Jews are only just aware of the problem,  they&#39;re aware now most of us don&#39;t give a damn any more. When the economy crunch gets worse, you wait and see the response to your ADL and your AIPAC when they start yelling names. </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sommers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Sommers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Later, driving home with too much red wine in me&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil - I do hope your wife was doing the driving.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Later, driving home with too much red wine in me&quot;</p>
<p>Phil &#8211; I do hope your wife was doing the driving.</p>
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		<title>By: peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This happens to me all the time.  First you check each other out to see if either is crazy or Jewish and then it comes spilling out. There is a mountain of resentment.  However this may only apply in urban centers on the coasts, mid-Americans who get the news in the papers probably aren&#039;t this way.  After all,  Israel is approved by 70% of Americans. Israel can probably get away with more years of doing damage but it WILL eventually stop.  How long did it take for the Soviet Union? &lt;br /&gt;
I wonder if the woman at the dinner party talked to her husband of her ideas?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens to me all the time.  First you check each other out to see if either is crazy or Jewish and then it comes spilling out. There is a mountain of resentment.  However this may only apply in urban centers on the coasts, mid-Americans who get the news in the papers probably aren&#39;t this way.  After all,  Israel is approved by 70% of Americans. Israel can probably get away with more years of doing damage but it WILL eventually stop.  How long did it take for the Soviet Union? <br />
I wonder if the woman at the dinner party talked to her husband of her ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every loyal progressive American simultaneously loves and hates America. Although you infer that you are now &quot;loyal&quot;, I expect that you too have a love/hate relationship with America.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are obviously aspects of permanent American foreign and domestic policy that make you and me so damn angry as to consider leaving. Permanent war. Redistribution of wealth from working to owning classes. Suppression of civil liberties. Absence of venue of genuinely respectfully open discussion on issues of merit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Every liberal defender of Zionism experiences similarly. We hate many of Israel&#039;s policies, constructed of odd coalitions of neo-religious and nationalist that ignore agreements, invent law, block fully democratic institutions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And yet, we KNOW that Zionism has been necessary and likely is necessary, and has been and is desirable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The $3 billion/year given to Israel is not large relative to other permanent military and other aid given to allies on the frontier of conflict.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The invocation of hatred towards Israel, as distinct from anger and rational criticism (you do know the difference?), is repulsive, no matter where it is stated.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every loyal progressive American simultaneously loves and hates America. Although you infer that you are now &quot;loyal&quot;, I expect that you too have a love/hate relationship with America.</p>
<p>There are obviously aspects of permanent American foreign and domestic policy that make you and me so damn angry as to consider leaving. Permanent war. Redistribution of wealth from working to owning classes. Suppression of civil liberties. Absence of venue of genuinely respectfully open discussion on issues of merit.</p>
<p>Every liberal defender of Zionism experiences similarly. We hate many of Israel&#39;s policies, constructed of odd coalitions of neo-religious and nationalist that ignore agreements, invent law, block fully democratic institutions.</p>
<p>And yet, we KNOW that Zionism has been necessary and likely is necessary, and has been and is desirable.</p>
<p>The $3 billion/year given to Israel is not large relative to other permanent military and other aid given to allies on the frontier of conflict.</p>
<p>The invocation of hatred towards Israel, as distinct from anger and rational criticism (you do know the difference?), is repulsive, no matter where it is stated.</p>
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		<title>By: ed.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;There is a mountain of resentment. However this may only apply in urban centers on the coasts...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Isn&#039;t it ironic that before middle America got Zionized by the media, the opposite would have been true.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems urbanites are today embracing fundamental hard truths (look at Obama&#039;s unapologetic Christianity) and rural whites are now the ones being played for fools by Jewish Zionist charlatans. And it seems like only yesterday that Jews were considered so hip by the cosmopolitan set.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The long-in-tooth chameleon Zionists&#039; eternal search for fresh blood and useful idiots always sends them far and wide.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;There is a mountain of resentment. However this may only apply in urban centers on the coasts&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Isn&#39;t it ironic that before middle America got Zionized by the media, the opposite would have been true.</p>
<p>It seems urbanites are today embracing fundamental hard truths (look at Obama&#39;s unapologetic Christianity) and rural whites are now the ones being played for fools by Jewish Zionist charlatans. And it seems like only yesterday that Jews were considered so hip by the cosmopolitan set.</p>
<p>The long-in-tooth chameleon Zionists&#39; eternal search for fresh blood and useful idiots always sends them far and wide.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also Phil,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you accurately presenting Trita Parsi&#039;s view?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way you present it sounds like the old CANARD that Israel created Hamas.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You don&#039;t believe that radical Islam exists, and is very violent, and conducts terror?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or, are you just objecting to Israel and the US regarding it as enemy and organized?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certainly the defense industries WANT (rather than acknowledge) a new enemy. But, what does that matter, so long as their wants are tempered, by other more important objectives that are KEPT in one&#039;s face.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I really dislike your anti approach these days. I think it conflicts with your assertion that you want the &quot;truth to be out&quot;. I think you&#039;ve concluded to be a partisan journalist rather than an informative one.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Phil,</p>
<p>Are you accurately presenting Trita Parsi&#39;s view?</p>
<p>The way you present it sounds like the old CANARD that Israel created Hamas.</p>
<p>You don&#39;t believe that radical Islam exists, and is very violent, and conducts terror?</p>
<p>Or, are you just objecting to Israel and the US regarding it as enemy and organized?</p>
<p>Certainly the defense industries WANT (rather than acknowledge) a new enemy. But, what does that matter, so long as their wants are tempered, by other more important objectives that are KEPT in one&#39;s face.</p>
<p>I really dislike your anti approach these days. I think it conflicts with your assertion that you want the &quot;truth to be out&quot;. I think you&#39;ve concluded to be a partisan journalist rather than an informative one.</p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israel doesnt need to be hated, but the issues arent being addressed in keeping with the traditions of the jews. unless you say so of course.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and not only that but, allowing the palestinians a voice in the discussions might be translated as an act of fairness on behalf of the parties involved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the continnuation of this 60 yr old building project ought to be brought into focus, and to start to take into consideration the human costs in terms of lives lost or taken.&lt;br /&gt;
and to look into the not so distant past and seeing a great crime commited against a peoples, the balance between the scales needs to be reset.&lt;br /&gt;
Fairness and consideration of quality of life should be part of the settlement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;today being the anniversary of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus the Christ, a heartfelt happy holyday  (hag sameach)  to the christians in the room. and may peace rule and his name be known on the earth.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel doesnt need to be hated, but the issues arent being addressed in keeping with the traditions of the jews. unless you say so of course.</p>
<p>and not only that but, allowing the palestinians a voice in the discussions might be translated as an act of fairness on behalf of the parties involved.</p>
<p>the continnuation of this 60 yr old building project ought to be brought into focus, and to start to take into consideration the human costs in terms of lives lost or taken.<br />
and to look into the not so distant past and seeing a great crime commited against a peoples, the balance between the scales needs to be reset.<br />
Fairness and consideration of quality of life should be part of the settlement.</p>
<p>today being the anniversary of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus the Christ, a heartfelt happy holyday  (hag sameach)  to the christians in the room. and may peace rule and his name be known on the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;And yet, we KNOW that Zionism has been necessary and likely is necessary, and has been and is desirable.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So Jewish nationalism is necessary and desirable. Then so to is Christian nationalism, Islamic nationalism, white nationalism, black nationalism, etc, etc,...fine, just don&#039;t ask Americans to subsidize any of them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;The $3 billion/year given to Israel is not large relative to other permanent military and other aid given to allies on the frontier of conflict.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If only that&#039;s all it amounted to. But the Iraq war (which would never have been fought but for Israel) has cost America 4,000 lives and a half trillion (so far); the 9/11 attacks, which never would have occurred but for US blind support for Israel cost the US economy at least the same amount; and billions more have been paid due to skyrocketing oil prices, which before the Neocon Bush regime were relatively modest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All your liberal pleadings for Zionism are very svengali-like, reasonable-sounding and soothing, Witty. Fortunately, they help to demonstrate why no American should ever trust Zionists of any stripe, be they Christian, Jewish, Washington establishment or left-liberal. The vampire-class is attracted to Zionism like flies to sh**. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;And yet, we KNOW that Zionism has been necessary and likely is necessary, and has been and is desirable.&quot;</p>
<p>So Jewish nationalism is necessary and desirable. Then so to is Christian nationalism, Islamic nationalism, white nationalism, black nationalism, etc, etc,&#8230;fine, just don&#39;t ask Americans to subsidize any of them.</p>
<p>&quot;The $3 billion/year given to Israel is not large relative to other permanent military and other aid given to allies on the frontier of conflict.&quot;</p>
<p>If only that&#39;s all it amounted to. But the Iraq war (which would never have been fought but for Israel) has cost America 4,000 lives and a half trillion (so far); the 9/11 attacks, which never would have occurred but for US blind support for Israel cost the US economy at least the same amount; and billions more have been paid due to skyrocketing oil prices, which before the Neocon Bush regime were relatively modest.</p>
<p>All your liberal pleadings for Zionism are very svengali-like, reasonable-sounding and soothing, Witty. Fortunately, they help to demonstrate why no American should ever trust Zionists of any stripe, be they Christian, Jewish, Washington establishment or left-liberal. The vampire-class is attracted to Zionism like flies to sh**. </p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the point Phil is making in this piece is that, since we all know perfectly how a few glasses of red wine at dinner affect our own mood, he is inviting us to consider how few glasses it takes to wash away the american zionist fixation.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point Phil is making in this piece is that, since we all know perfectly how a few glasses of red wine at dinner affect our own mood, he is inviting us to consider how few glasses it takes to wash away the american zionist fixation.</p>
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