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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/obamas-israel-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-62598</link>
		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am curious about something. For Phil Weiss, Keating, Ed, Haygood, liberla white boy, and all the rest. Say your hopes and dreams are realized. Israel is destroyed, the Jews are murdered or expelled. And it&#039;s replaced by an Islamic theocracy. What will you have won? Serious question&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious about something. For Phil Weiss, Keating, Ed, Haygood, liberla white boy, and all the rest. Say your hopes and dreams are realized. Israel is destroyed, the Jews are murdered or expelled. And it&#39;s replaced by an Islamic theocracy. What will you have won? Serious question</p>
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		<title>By: cogit8</title>
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		<dc:creator>cogit8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent post Philip. I can only admire and not denigrate.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Newsmax is reporting that &quot;The Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) today called on Sen. Barack Obama to remove Gen. Merrill &quot;Tony&quot; McPeak as his military advisor and national campaign co-chairman.&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Jewish_Group_Wants_Obama_/2008/03/25/82924.html&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Rather than putting the blame where it belongs -- on the Palestinian leadership and their continued reliance on terror, General McPeak finds it more convenient to blame American Jewry and their perceived influence,&quot; said Brooks. &quot;This is the same dangerous and disturbing canard being promoted by the likes of Jimmy Carter and authors Mearsheimer and Walt in their book, The Israel Lobby.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s time to start calling these Jewish Zionists on their racism. If McPeak is an anti-Semite for saying the following way back in 2003 -- &quot;New York City. Miami. We have a large vote -- vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it&quot; -- then certainly those who tenaciously support Israel -- an institutionally racist apartheid state that discriminates, by law, against those of non-Jewish blood -- are racists bent on resurrecting Jim Crow laws in America.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s time to take the gloves off. Supporters of Israel are clearly the worst kind of bigots: advocates of institutional racism. Obama needs to fight fire with fire and call these agents of Israel on their racist fanaticism.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsmax is reporting that &quot;The Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) today called on Sen. Barack Obama to remove Gen. Merrill &quot;Tony&quot; McPeak as his military advisor and national campaign co-chairman.&quot;&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Jewish_Group_Wants_Obama_/2008/03/25/82924.htmlbr">link to newsmax.com</a><br /> /><br />
&quot;Rather than putting the blame where it belongs &#8212; on the Palestinian leadership and their continued reliance on terror, General McPeak finds it more convenient to blame American Jewry and their perceived influence,&quot; said Brooks. &quot;This is the same dangerous and disturbing canard being promoted by the likes of Jimmy Carter and authors Mearsheimer and Walt in their book, The Israel Lobby.&quot; </p>
<p>It&#39;s time to start calling these Jewish Zionists on their racism. If McPeak is an anti-Semite for saying the following way back in 2003 &#8212; &quot;New York City. Miami. We have a large vote &#8212; vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it&quot; &#8212; then certainly those who tenaciously support Israel &#8212; an institutionally racist apartheid state that discriminates, by law, against those of non-Jewish blood &#8212; are racists bent on resurrecting Jim Crow laws in America.</p>
<p>It&#39;s time to take the gloves off. Supporters of Israel are clearly the worst kind of bigots: advocates of institutional racism. Obama needs to fight fire with fire and call these agents of Israel on their racist fanaticism.</p>
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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/obamas-israel-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-62601</link>
		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ed, every day you sink lower and lower into the swamps. But I&#039;m going to take this one slow because obviously your not that bright. It&#039;s called the REPUBLICAN jewish coalition. REPUBLICANS. They jockey the same way the National Jewish DEOMOCRATIC council brings up Hagee and others. It&#039;s called electoral politics. I know your pine for those good old days in the fatherland 1933-45 but that&#039;s what we have here.&lt;br /&gt;
It does take a racist fanatic to know one I suppose. Contemplate that at your next meeting of America friends of Islamic Jihad&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, every day you sink lower and lower into the swamps. But I&#39;m going to take this one slow because obviously your not that bright. It&#39;s called the REPUBLICAN jewish coalition. REPUBLICANS. They jockey the same way the National Jewish DEOMOCRATIC council brings up Hagee and others. It&#39;s called electoral politics. I know your pine for those good old days in the fatherland 1933-45 but that&#39;s what we have here.<br />
It does take a racist fanatic to know one I suppose. Contemplate that at your next meeting of America friends of Islamic Jihad</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link, Phil.  My post on the L&#039;Affaire McPeak is linked above.  Barack Obama needs to take direction fr. the Republican Jewish Coalition as much as a lung cancer survivor needs to smoke a cigarette.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Phil.  My post on the L&#39;Affaire McPeak is linked above.  Barack Obama needs to take direction fr. the Republican Jewish Coalition as much as a lung cancer survivor needs to smoke a cigarette.</p>
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		<title>By: Daveg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daveg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Israel is destroyed, the Jews are murdered or expelled. And it&#039;s replaced by an Islamic theocracy. What will you have won? Serious question&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The smart ass answer is that we will have won the right to not pay ~6 billion in aid each year to Israel and Egypt, AND we will also be able to get out of Iraq, as the neocon interest in Iraq will probably subside if Israel no long exists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, the reality is Israel will be just fine, despite your parinoid rantings.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And that is OK, although I would still like to stop paying aid to them and get the troops out of Iraq.  Is that too much to ask for?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Israel is destroyed, the Jews are murdered or expelled. And it&#39;s replaced by an Islamic theocracy. What will you have won? Serious question&quot;</p>
<p>The smart ass answer is that we will have won the right to not pay ~6 billion in aid each year to Israel and Egypt, AND we will also be able to get out of Iraq, as the neocon interest in Iraq will probably subside if Israel no long exists.</p>
<p>But, the reality is Israel will be just fine, despite your parinoid rantings.  </p>
<p>And that is OK, although I would still like to stop paying aid to them and get the troops out of Iraq.  Is that too much to ask for?</p>
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		<title>By: hlmeankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>hlmeankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
Phil writes: &quot;All of us know that Obama is going to say the &quot;right thing,&quot; but we trust him to approach this issue in the end in an evenhanded way&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hold on Phil, I don&#039;t think &quot;All of us Know...&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Just what facts back up your proposition?&lt;br /&gt;
What your comment amounts to is a pious wish.&lt;br /&gt;
(If Obama retains McPeak, that would be a bit of evidence)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We need some basis for rolling the dice..&lt;br /&gt;
Consider,if he gets elected he could &quot;realistically&quot; say he has to continue  the essential zionist line,because he has to work with an AIPAC conrolled congress.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course Phil&#039;s intent: to elect a president who will seek a&quot;realistic&quot; and moral Mideast Policy is noble.&lt;br /&gt;
Its just that his failure to demand of Obama some proof that he will indeed live up to expectations, provides a cover for Obama&#039;s opportunism... &lt;br /&gt;
Lets see if Obama proves my scepticism unfounded.&lt;br /&gt;
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Phil writes: &quot;All of us know that Obama is going to say the &quot;right thing,&quot; but we trust him to approach this issue in the end in an evenhanded way&quot;</p>
<p>Hold on Phil, I don&#39;t think &quot;All of us Know&#8230;&quot;.<br />
Just what facts back up your proposition?<br />
What your comment amounts to is a pious wish.<br />
(If Obama retains McPeak, that would be a bit of evidence)</p>
<p>We need some basis for rolling the dice..<br />
Consider,if he gets elected he could &quot;realistically&quot; say he has to continue  the essential zionist line,because he has to work with an AIPAC conrolled congress.</p>
<p>Of course Phil&#39;s intent: to elect a president who will seek a&quot;realistic&quot; and moral Mideast Policy is noble.<br />
Its just that his failure to demand of Obama some proof that he will indeed live up to expectations, provides a cover for Obama&#39;s opportunism&#8230; <br />
Lets see if Obama proves my scepticism unfounded.</p>
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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fast question Daveq, South Korea, 54.000 dead in the war, 37,000 troops on permanent duty, not to mention naval protection. Nato, Bosnia, any thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fast question Daveq, South Korea, 54.000 dead in the war, 37,000 troops on permanent duty, not to mention naval protection. Nato, Bosnia, any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/03/obamas-israel-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-62606</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goldberg on McPeak: &quot;[In McPeak&#039;s view] American policy is the product of &#039;religious Jews and neocons.&#039;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Making essentially the same point, Glenn Greenwald argues in Salon that the range of commentary presented in the Lamestream Media ranges from &quot;liberal hawks&quot; who critique the execution of the Iraq war, to neocon warmongers who whooped it on. But those who correctly opposed the Iraq invasion before it began are excluded from mainstream commentary. (Obama, who made a speech opposing the attack in October 2002, is one of the few exceptions, by virtue of being a candidate.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of those prescient war opponents who gets no calls from the media is -- surprise, surprise! -- one Stephen M. Walt. Greenwald points this out, then quotes an email from Walt:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s an ongoing myth, peddled by the pro-war establishment, that very few people with &quot;serious&quot; foreign policy credentials unequivocally opposed the invasion of Iraq. That just isn&#039;t true. Here, for instance, is an anti-war ad signed (and paid for) by 33 scholars of international security affairs -- from among the nation&#039;s most prestigious academic institutions -- which they published in The New York Times in September, 2002, presciently setting forth the case against the invasion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Review the names of the anti-war signatories and one finds that they are virtually never heard from in the establishment press, even now. As one of the prime movers of that ad, signatory Stephen Walt of the Harvard School of Government (who, as indicated, made pre-invasion, anti-war arguments with pinpoint accuracy in numerous other venues as well), wrote to me via email today:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    Apart from a series of articles that the Harvard Crimson did last week (focusing on Harvard faculty views then and now), I haven&#039;t been asked for my views on Iraq by mainstream media in months, if not years. What&#039;s more remarkable is that most of the other academics who opposed the war are also largely ignored. As far as I know, none of the signatories of our original NYT ad were asked to provide prominent commentary on the 5 year anniversary, and certainly not in prominent places like the New York Times or the Washington Post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    Indeed, I believe that virtually everyone in the media has simply forgotten that there were prominent, mainstream voices who opposed the war on straightforward strategic grounds, and were proven correct. Future historians will have a field day discussing how the United States continued to listen to those who were proven wrong over and over and over, while ignoring those who were (regrettably) proven right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/25/war_opponents/index.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can only tell Stephen Walt the same thing I tell our host Philip Weiss: the Revolution will not be televised, nor will it be covered by the Slimes or the WaPo. These are the same stinky fishwrappers that told us the Surge was working. Now we learn this morning that insurgents are rocketing the heavily-fortified Green Zone and injuring -- oh, my! -- AMERICANS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This useless war, and the influence of the greasy Israel Lobby peddlers who sold it, will eventually end. So will the dying dinosaurs of the Lamestream Media which serve as their stenographers and mouthpieces.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldberg on McPeak: &quot;[In McPeak&#39;s view] American policy is the product of &#39;religious Jews and neocons.&#39;&quot;</p>
<p>Making essentially the same point, Glenn Greenwald argues in Salon that the range of commentary presented in the Lamestream Media ranges from &quot;liberal hawks&quot; who critique the execution of the Iraq war, to neocon warmongers who whooped it on. But those who correctly opposed the Iraq invasion before it began are excluded from mainstream commentary. (Obama, who made a speech opposing the attack in October 2002, is one of the few exceptions, by virtue of being a candidate.)</p>
<p>One of those prescient war opponents who gets no calls from the media is &#8212; surprise, surprise! &#8212; one Stephen M. Walt. Greenwald points this out, then quotes an email from Walt:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>There&#39;s an ongoing myth, peddled by the pro-war establishment, that very few people with &quot;serious&quot; foreign policy credentials unequivocally opposed the invasion of Iraq. That just isn&#39;t true. Here, for instance, is an anti-war ad signed (and paid for) by 33 scholars of international security affairs &#8212; from among the nation&#39;s most prestigious academic institutions &#8212; which they published in The New York Times in September, 2002, presciently setting forth the case against the invasion.</p>
<p>Review the names of the anti-war signatories and one finds that they are virtually never heard from in the establishment press, even now. As one of the prime movers of that ad, signatory Stephen Walt of the Harvard School of Government (who, as indicated, made pre-invasion, anti-war arguments with pinpoint accuracy in numerous other venues as well), wrote to me via email today:</p>
<p>    Apart from a series of articles that the Harvard Crimson did last week (focusing on Harvard faculty views then and now), I haven&#39;t been asked for my views on Iraq by mainstream media in months, if not years. What&#39;s more remarkable is that most of the other academics who opposed the war are also largely ignored. As far as I know, none of the signatories of our original NYT ad were asked to provide prominent commentary on the 5 year anniversary, and certainly not in prominent places like the New York Times or the Washington Post.</p>
<p>    Indeed, I believe that virtually everyone in the media has simply forgotten that there were prominent, mainstream voices who opposed the war on straightforward strategic grounds, and were proven correct. Future historians will have a field day discussing how the United States continued to listen to those who were proven wrong over and over and over, while ignoring those who were (regrettably) proven right.</p>
<p>http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/25/war_opponents/index.html</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>I can only tell Stephen Walt the same thing I tell our host Philip Weiss: the Revolution will not be televised, nor will it be covered by the Slimes or the WaPo. These are the same stinky fishwrappers that told us the Surge was working. Now we learn this morning that insurgents are rocketing the heavily-fortified Green Zone and injuring &#8212; oh, my! &#8212; AMERICANS.</p>
<p>This useless war, and the influence of the greasy Israel Lobby peddlers who sold it, will eventually end. So will the dying dinosaurs of the Lamestream Media which serve as their stenographers and mouthpieces.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hlmeankin: &quot;Lets see if Obama proves my scepticism unfounded.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There will be no revolutionary shifts, absolutely no doubt. But what does the anti-Obama camp fear? Or why do 70% in Israel prefer McCain/Clinton? [a question that triggers statements by Benny Morris about Israeli media at the moment.]&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Phil Pearlman/the Sword of Gideon: Could you tell us what the exact connection is between the Islamofascist threat and US activities in the cold war or after the breaking up of the communist block suggested above?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you aware that both Osama bin Laden and Iran are not really interested in Israel but intend to take over Europe respectively nuke it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=1.0.1992348697&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rome, 20 March(AKI) - Muslim immigrants are a serious threat to peace and democracy in Europe, according to the Israeli Ambassador to the Vatican Oded Ben-Hur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
He referred to leaflets that he claims to have in the Israeli embassy, that are linked to a programme by Osama bin Laden &quot;to re-conquer Europe.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regarding Iran&#039;s nuclear programme, he did not believe a nuclear attack on Israel would take place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Ahmadinejad is building his atomic capacity not to destroy Israel,&quot; said the ambassador.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Instead, Ben-Hur focused the debate on Iran&#039;s alleged nuclear missiles and its range, which he said could reach Europe. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hlmeankin: &quot;Lets see if Obama proves my scepticism unfounded.&quot;</p>
<p>There will be no revolutionary shifts, absolutely no doubt. But what does the anti-Obama camp fear? Or why do 70% in Israel prefer McCain/Clinton? [a question that triggers statements by Benny Morris about Israeli media at the moment.]</p>
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<p>Phil Pearlman/the Sword of Gideon: Could you tell us what the exact connection is between the Islamofascist threat and US activities in the cold war or after the breaking up of the communist block suggested above?</p>
<p>Are you aware that both Osama bin Laden and Iran are not really interested in Israel but intend to take over Europe respectively nuke it?</p>
<p>http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=1.0.1992348697</p>
<p>Rome, 20 March(AKI) &#8211; Muslim immigrants are a serious threat to peace and democracy in Europe, according to the Israeli Ambassador to the Vatican Oded Ben-Hur.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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He referred to leaflets that he claims to have in the Israeli embassy, that are linked to a programme by Osama bin Laden &quot;to re-conquer Europe.&quot;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Regarding Iran&#39;s nuclear programme, he did not believe a nuclear attack on Israel would take place.</p>
<p>&quot;Ahmadinejad is building his atomic capacity not to destroy Israel,&quot; said the ambassador.</p>
<p>Instead, Ben-Hur focused the debate on Iran&#39;s alleged nuclear missiles and its range, which he said could reach Europe. </p>
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