Comments on: Hillary’s Strategist Once Sought Full Accounting for Vietnam War Decision-Makers (Will Hillary Ever Apologize?) http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:41:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60410 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60410 <p>.</p> <p>We don't even have to draw analogies between Vietnam and Iraq. Geoff Garin's assertion that "the tactics used by the American war machine in Indochina raise[d] moral and legal questions that did not go away" remains true today.</p> <p>One of the architects of the Indochinese war crimes, Henry Kissinger, remains at large in the U.S., although he's unable to visit much of Europe for fear of arrest. Kissinger continues to interfere in our politics, having endorsed John McCain last year. Reference:</p> <p>http://www2.nysun.com/article/68421</p> <p>If it was unacceptable for the minor war criminal Kurt Waldheim to serve as UN Secretary General, why it is acceptable for the top-echelon war criminal Kissinger to participate in U.S. political life, on the side of a candidate who has said the Iraq occupation may last a hundred years?</p> <p>Kissinger belongs in a small cage in The Hague.</p> .

We don't even have to draw analogies between Vietnam and Iraq. Geoff Garin's assertion that "the tactics used by the American war machine in Indochina raise[d] moral and legal questions that did not go away" remains true today.

One of the architects of the Indochinese war crimes, Henry Kissinger, remains at large in the U.S., although he's unable to visit much of Europe for fear of arrest. Kissinger continues to interfere in our politics, having endorsed John McCain last year. Reference:

http://www2.nysun.com/article/68421

If it was unacceptable for the minor war criminal Kurt Waldheim to serve as UN Secretary General, why it is acceptable for the top-echelon war criminal Kissinger to participate in U.S. political life, on the side of a candidate who has said the Iraq occupation may last a hundred years?

Kissinger belongs in a small cage in The Hague.

]]> By: Scott http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60411 Scott Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60411 <p>Even at age twenty, 1973 was late to be thinking about violent revolution. '68,'69,'70--sure. But around the time that Weatherman town house blew up, the fever broke for most people. Nothing wrong with "accountability" for the war planners though, then and now. </p> Even at age twenty, 1973 was late to be thinking about violent revolution. '68,'69,'70–sure. But around the time that Weatherman town house blew up, the fever broke for most people. Nothing wrong with "accountability" for the war planners though, then and now.

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60412 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60412 <p>I don't know how heroic it is for Phil to do this blog but I imagine that it costs him something. I do believe he is being a great Jew. For one, he is putting being a decent human being ahead of survival of his tribe, or at least giving it equal weight. Surely there are unversalist, humanist values in Judaism. Isn't this the positive ideal of western civilization? Haven't the Jews contributed mightily to that civilization? I am sorry that he suffers pain at the comments he gets. Many of them express a bitterness that I try not to express but that I often feel. I wish Phil and other Jews could understand this bitterness. Yet we who are bitter need to put true value on the service Phil is doing. It is such a great service that I regret any pain that we cause. Are the people who post frequently valuing his largeness of spirit? A largenss that I don't see in the posts by the way. </p> I don't know how heroic it is for Phil to do this blog but I imagine that it costs him something. I do believe he is being a great Jew. For one, he is putting being a decent human being ahead of survival of his tribe, or at least giving it equal weight. Surely there are unversalist, humanist values in Judaism. Isn't this the positive ideal of western civilization? Haven't the Jews contributed mightily to that civilization? I am sorry that he suffers pain at the comments he gets. Many of them express a bitterness that I try not to express but that I often feel. I wish Phil and other Jews could understand this bitterness. Yet we who are bitter need to put true value on the service Phil is doing. It is such a great service that I regret any pain that we cause. Are the people who post frequently valuing his largeness of spirit? A largenss that I don't see in the posts by the way.

]]> By: otto http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60413 otto Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60413 <p>This is material for a magazine article or newspaper piece. </p> This is material for a magazine article or newspaper piece.

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60414 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60414 <p>What is/are the base or core cause(s) of this bitterness?</p> <p>Should what Obama said on Bittergate be a model? </p> <p>Why?</p> <p>Why not?</p> <p>What the Rev Wright said?</p> <p>What a settler says?</p> <p>Is the sermon on the mount any guide?</p> <p>How does give to Caesar what is Caesar's, fit in? </p> What is/are the base or core cause(s) of this bitterness?

Should what Obama said on Bittergate be a model?

Why?

Why not?

What the Rev Wright said?

What a settler says?

Is the sermon on the mount any guide?

How does give to Caesar what is Caesar's, fit in?

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60415 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60415 <p>"A largenss that I don't see in the posts by the way."</p> <p>Amen ;)</p> "A largenss that I don't see in the posts by the way."

Amen ;)

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60416 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60416 <p>.</p> <p>Jimmy Carter is expressing the kind of sentiments today that Geoff Garin did 35 years ago. Too bad Geoff's client isn't going to qualify for Carter's endorsement. She isn't willing to say things like this:</p> <p>------------</p> <p>[Carter] mused openly about how Mr Obama might harness this feeling [of a fresh start] in an inaugural address.</p> <p>"If the first statement he made was while I’m president of the United States we will never torture another prisoner and while I’m President of the United States we will never go to war unless our own security is directly threatened...it would transform the image of the United States in the minds of many people around the world.</p> <p>http://tinyurl.com/5wycbj</p> <p>------------</p> <p>Wake up, Geoff. You could have honored your ideals and won. But the Clintons are too compromised to make any fresh starts.</p> .

Jimmy Carter is expressing the kind of sentiments today that Geoff Garin did 35 years ago. Too bad Geoff's client isn't going to qualify for Carter's endorsement. She isn't willing to say things like this:

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[Carter] mused openly about how Mr Obama might harness this feeling [of a fresh start] in an inaugural address.

"If the first statement he made was while I’m president of the United States we will never torture another prisoner and while I’m President of the United States we will never go to war unless our own security is directly threatened…it would transform the image of the United States in the minds of many people around the world.

http://tinyurl.com/5wycbj

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Wake up, Geoff. You could have honored your ideals and won. But the Clintons are too compromised to make any fresh starts.

]]> By: the Sword of Gideon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60417 the Sword of Gideon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60417 <p>We water boarded Khalid Muhammad, who cut off Daniel Pearls head. Ask me if I give a shit.</p> We water boarded Khalid Muhammad, who cut off Daniel Pearls head. Ask me if I give a shit.

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60418 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60418 <p>Now, there's a macro-perspective. One Jew is worth a million goys. Notice how I even cap one, not the other. </p> Now, there's a macro-perspective. One Jew is worth a million goys. Notice how I even cap one, not the other.

]]> By: the Sword of Gideon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/hillarys-strate.html/comment-page-1#comment-60419 the Sword of Gideon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/04/30/hillarys-strate.html#comment-60419 <p>Khalid Muhammad isn't worth the shit from my dogs ass. Why do you like him?</p> Khalid Muhammad isn't worth the shit from my dogs ass. Why do you like him?

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