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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/jews-take-credi.html/comment-page-1#comment-62187</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My advice would be this : to understand the JEWISH (not &#039;neoconservative&#039;) influence on the heart of the defense establishment, go back at least to Hermann Kahn, and his infamous books &quot;Thinking The Unthinkable&quot; and &quot;On Thermonuclear War&quot;. Take some time to sample their contents at random, and think yourself back into the period. You can also approach this via the reaction to it, starting with for instance Allen Ginsberg. Either way, you are getting the &#039;bookends&#039; of jewish influence on postWW2 US geopolitics, the formative forces. Everything since is commentary.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My advice would be this : to understand the JEWISH (not &#39;neoconservative&#39;) influence on the heart of the defense establishment, go back at least to Hermann Kahn, and his infamous books &quot;Thinking The Unthinkable&quot; and &quot;On Thermonuclear War&quot;. Take some time to sample their contents at random, and think yourself back into the period. You can also approach this via the reaction to it, starting with for instance Allen Ginsberg. Either way, you are getting the &#39;bookends&#39; of jewish influence on postWW2 US geopolitics, the formative forces. Everything since is commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW.</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From Haaretz.com&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;White man&#039;s burden&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
By Ari Shavit&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it&#039;s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[...]&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It&#039;s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It&#039;s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Haaretz.com</p>
<p>&quot;White man&#39;s burden&quot;<br />
By Ari Shavit</p>
<p>&quot;The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it&#39;s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical.&quot;<br />
[...]<br />
&quot;Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It&#39;s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It&#39;s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.&quot;</p>
<p>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/jews-take-credi.html/comment-page-1#comment-62189</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most of the Jewish physicists of Europe who contributed to the Manhattan Project had left Germany/Europe before Hitler came to power, or just as his odious racial laws were passed. Einstein (who was NOT involved in the atomic bomb) had permanently left Europe in Dec. of 1932. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Szilard had left Hungary in March of 1933, and a month later Hitler&#039;s &quot;Laws&quot; were adopted. Those guys were gone, and only Einstein was German, and Jewish. Szilard was Jewish and Hungarian, a country over which Hitler had NO control yet. Edward Teller was also Hungarian (and non-practicing Jew), but he left before Hitler had control of his native land. Even Paul Wigner, was Hungarian and while his family had a Jewish background neither of his own parents were practicing Jews when he was born in Budapest. Wigner&#039;s High School (from which he graduated) was Lutheran, and by 1930 he was teaching in the US. That Lutheran Gymnasium is where he met John von Neumann; who was also from a NON-participating Jewish background and they both ended up teaching in the US in 1930. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lisa Meitner was an Austrian Jewish female who had worked in Germany with Otto Hahn at the Kaiser Wilhem Institute (Hahn’s specialty was chemistry not physics), and she was the first to see the combination of &quot;matter and energy&quot; conversion as expressed in Einstein’s equasion; if the atom itself was truly split rather than just altered, this was what Rutherford had done years before in the UK to produce a different but already existing element.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lisa Meitner was living in Sweden at the time, and the realization came to her while walking in the woods with her nephew Otto Frisch. Otto Frisch is the fellow who then officially &quot;coined the term&quot; nuclear fission BTW. A theoretical explanation of nuclear fission of uranium was written by Lisa Meitner and Otto Frisch employing a liquid drop model and coupling it to Einstein’s theory of relativity and the gigantic numbers which would only work if Einstein was right. A few days later (in early 1939), Neils Bohr brought a copy of that paper to the US. Some years before this, without knowing of the then non-existent Meitner/Frisch/Bohr paper; Leo Szilard had already patented a theoretical &quot;fission bomb&quot; design concept in Great Britain, and secretly donated it to the Royal Navy. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hans Albrecht Bethe had moved from Strassborg to England in October 1933 a month after those &quot;Laws&quot; were passed, and a year later moved to the US to teach at Cornell in 1934/35, and while his mother was Jewish, his father was NOT, and he had not been raised Jewish. And the Canadians, or British, or Commonwealth leading contributors (&quot;Tube Alloys&quot; and MAUD) to the eventual bomb, should count as NON-GERMAN since they either weren&#039;t of Jewish background and/or didn&#039;t flee Germany to avoid losing their jobs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What I am trying to point out is that the truly German and German &quot;Jews&quot; who contributed to the Manhattan Project were very few. That European Jews in the field of nuclear physics had fled both before and shortly after Hitler came to power (some were teaching elsewhere), some were studying elsewhere and never returned. Most of the experimental/applied physics was being done in Great Britain, Denmark, and France anyway. Germany led in the theoretical field. &quot;The Law for Restoration of Professional Civil Service&quot; only affected those German nationals who happened to be, by Hitler’s definition &quot;non-Aryan&quot;, and inside of German borders at the moment, when it was instituted. However it was NOT until September of 1935 that the &quot;Nuremberg Laws&quot; were passed, and by then the great bulk of both Austrian, Hungarian, German, Danish, and other Jewish scientists had left Europe either before Hitler came to power in 1933/34, or directly thereafter having seen the &quot;writing on the wall&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And it was NOT just the nuclear physicists, but biologists, mathematicians (Klaus Fuchs, a non-jew), and engineers as well. A significant group of them had already been teaching or studying in either the UK or the US while Hitler was still an &quot;odd little loud politician&quot;. Fermi was an Italian, his wife was a non-practicing Jew, and both were living as Catholics in Italy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the Jewish physicists of Europe who contributed to the Manhattan Project had left Germany/Europe before Hitler came to power, or just as his odious racial laws were passed. Einstein (who was NOT involved in the atomic bomb) had permanently left Europe in Dec. of 1932. </p>
<p>Szilard had left Hungary in March of 1933, and a month later Hitler&#39;s &quot;Laws&quot; were adopted. Those guys were gone, and only Einstein was German, and Jewish. Szilard was Jewish and Hungarian, a country over which Hitler had NO control yet. Edward Teller was also Hungarian (and non-practicing Jew), but he left before Hitler had control of his native land. Even Paul Wigner, was Hungarian and while his family had a Jewish background neither of his own parents were practicing Jews when he was born in Budapest. Wigner&#39;s High School (from which he graduated) was Lutheran, and by 1930 he was teaching in the US. That Lutheran Gymnasium is where he met John von Neumann; who was also from a NON-participating Jewish background and they both ended up teaching in the US in 1930. </p>
<p>Lisa Meitner was an Austrian Jewish female who had worked in Germany with Otto Hahn at the Kaiser Wilhem Institute (Hahn’s specialty was chemistry not physics), and she was the first to see the combination of &quot;matter and energy&quot; conversion as expressed in Einstein’s equasion; if the atom itself was truly split rather than just altered, this was what Rutherford had done years before in the UK to produce a different but already existing element.</p>
<p>Lisa Meitner was living in Sweden at the time, and the realization came to her while walking in the woods with her nephew Otto Frisch. Otto Frisch is the fellow who then officially &quot;coined the term&quot; nuclear fission BTW. A theoretical explanation of nuclear fission of uranium was written by Lisa Meitner and Otto Frisch employing a liquid drop model and coupling it to Einstein’s theory of relativity and the gigantic numbers which would only work if Einstein was right. A few days later (in early 1939), Neils Bohr brought a copy of that paper to the US. Some years before this, without knowing of the then non-existent Meitner/Frisch/Bohr paper; Leo Szilard had already patented a theoretical &quot;fission bomb&quot; design concept in Great Britain, and secretly donated it to the Royal Navy. </p>
<p>Hans Albrecht Bethe had moved from Strassborg to England in October 1933 a month after those &quot;Laws&quot; were passed, and a year later moved to the US to teach at Cornell in 1934/35, and while his mother was Jewish, his father was NOT, and he had not been raised Jewish. And the Canadians, or British, or Commonwealth leading contributors (&quot;Tube Alloys&quot; and MAUD) to the eventual bomb, should count as NON-GERMAN since they either weren&#39;t of Jewish background and/or didn&#39;t flee Germany to avoid losing their jobs.</p>
<p>What I am trying to point out is that the truly German and German &quot;Jews&quot; who contributed to the Manhattan Project were very few. That European Jews in the field of nuclear physics had fled both before and shortly after Hitler came to power (some were teaching elsewhere), some were studying elsewhere and never returned. Most of the experimental/applied physics was being done in Great Britain, Denmark, and France anyway. Germany led in the theoretical field. &quot;The Law for Restoration of Professional Civil Service&quot; only affected those German nationals who happened to be, by Hitler’s definition &quot;non-Aryan&quot;, and inside of German borders at the moment, when it was instituted. However it was NOT until September of 1935 that the &quot;Nuremberg Laws&quot; were passed, and by then the great bulk of both Austrian, Hungarian, German, Danish, and other Jewish scientists had left Europe either before Hitler came to power in 1933/34, or directly thereafter having seen the &quot;writing on the wall&quot;.</p>
<p>And it was NOT just the nuclear physicists, but biologists, mathematicians (Klaus Fuchs, a non-jew), and engineers as well. A significant group of them had already been teaching or studying in either the UK or the US while Hitler was still an &quot;odd little loud politician&quot;. Fermi was an Italian, his wife was a non-practicing Jew, and both were living as Catholics in Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My first generation Irish Catholic uncle worked on the Manhattan project as a physicist phd. He later invented the wind tunnel at Stanford and was vp of Chevron among other things. We have a lot of similar over achievers in our family but zero ethnic identity or solidarity of any kind. Why Phil clings to his is a mystery to me.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first generation Irish Catholic uncle worked on the Manhattan project as a physicist phd. He later invented the wind tunnel at Stanford and was vp of Chevron among other things. We have a lot of similar over achievers in our family but zero ethnic identity or solidarity of any kind. Why Phil clings to his is a mystery to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who are the Neoconservative Non-Jews?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/03/its-not-only-about-palestine.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because Zionist Sorelianism has clear affinity with Friedman&#039;s ideas, the absence of the any discussion of the connections and interrelations between Friedmanism and Jabotinskianism in The Shock Doctrine, The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, by Naomi Klein is a glaring omission. While Jabotinskian Neoconservatism is for the most part a Jewish sect or special interest, Friedmanist Neoliberalism actively proselytizes itself to non-Jews as the true economic religion, whose high priesthood tends for the most part to consist of Jews. Non-Jews like Cheney, Rumsfeld, or Woolsey often come to accept Jabotinskian Neoconservative foreign policy ideas after indoctrination with Friedmanite Neolibeal market theory. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not only is Klein completely misleading when she implies that Israel&#039;s love affair with disaster capitalism only begins after the expections of the Oslo Process proved illusory, but she failed to mention that the erasing of the native population from areas under Zionist control in 1947-8 (Holoexaleipsis or Nakba) with concomitant seizure of practically all movable and immovable assets from Palestinian refugees is probably the earliest and purest example of massive Friedman-style transfer of wealth from the poor of the developing world to a Western elite (the Zionist political leadership) backed by a Western economic elite (mostly New York Jewish investment bankers and the Cousinhood of the wealthiest British Jews). The creation of the State of Israel on the shards of Arab Palestine is the Zionist version of the Shock Doctrine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Klein neglects to mention that the hyper-wealthy US Zionist elite and Israeli government have been heavily involved directly and indirectly in manipulating the US economy in criminal violation of SEC regulations by stoking, financing, and picking winners in the homeland security investment bubble that she describes in Chapter 14 of her book. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the Neoconservative Non-Jews?</p>
<p>http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/03/its-not-only-about-palestine.html</p>
<p>Because Zionist Sorelianism has clear affinity with Friedman&#39;s ideas, the absence of the any discussion of the connections and interrelations between Friedmanism and Jabotinskianism in The Shock Doctrine, The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, by Naomi Klein is a glaring omission. While Jabotinskian Neoconservatism is for the most part a Jewish sect or special interest, Friedmanist Neoliberalism actively proselytizes itself to non-Jews as the true economic religion, whose high priesthood tends for the most part to consist of Jews. Non-Jews like Cheney, Rumsfeld, or Woolsey often come to accept Jabotinskian Neoconservative foreign policy ideas after indoctrination with Friedmanite Neolibeal market theory. </p>
<p>Not only is Klein completely misleading when she implies that Israel&#39;s love affair with disaster capitalism only begins after the expections of the Oslo Process proved illusory, but she failed to mention that the erasing of the native population from areas under Zionist control in 1947-8 (Holoexaleipsis or Nakba) with concomitant seizure of practically all movable and immovable assets from Palestinian refugees is probably the earliest and purest example of massive Friedman-style transfer of wealth from the poor of the developing world to a Western elite (the Zionist political leadership) backed by a Western economic elite (mostly New York Jewish investment bankers and the Cousinhood of the wealthiest British Jews). The creation of the State of Israel on the shards of Arab Palestine is the Zionist version of the Shock Doctrine.</p>
<p>Klein neglects to mention that the hyper-wealthy US Zionist elite and Israeli government have been heavily involved directly and indirectly in manipulating the US economy in criminal violation of SEC regulations by stoking, financing, and picking winners in the homeland security investment bubble that she describes in Chapter 14 of her book. </p>
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		<title>By: jonathan ekman</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan ekman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In American discourse, when speaking of the&lt;br /&gt;
Jews, it is permissible only to mention&lt;br /&gt;
admirable achievements; all other statements&lt;br /&gt;
about Jews, when made by non-Jews, are ipso&lt;br /&gt;
facto evidence of anti-semitism and thus&lt;br /&gt;
to be condemned even without examining the&lt;br /&gt;
evidence.  One might say that the prevailing&lt;br /&gt;
wisdom is De Judearibus Nihil Nisi Bonum.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In American discourse, when speaking of the<br />
Jews, it is permissible only to mention<br />
admirable achievements; all other statements<br />
about Jews, when made by non-Jews, are ipso<br />
facto evidence of anti-semitism and thus<br />
to be condemned even without examining the<br />
evidence.  One might say that the prevailing<br />
wisdom is De Judearibus Nihil Nisi Bonum.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sorelianism?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorelianism?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Einstein (who was NOT involved in the atomic bomb)&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(From Einstein&#039;s letter to Roosvelt)&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;...A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;...In view of this situation you may think it desirable to have some permanent contact maintained between the administration and the group of physicists working on chain reactions in America. One possible way of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial capacity. His task might comprise the following:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;a) to approach Government Departments, keep them informed of the further development, and put forward recommendations for Government action, giving particular attention to the problem of scouring a supply of uranium ore for the United States;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required, through his contacts with private persons who are are willing to make contributions for this cause, and perhaps also by obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories which have the necessary equipment.&lt;br /&gt;
===================&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So Einstein was not involved in the atomic bomb in the same way that Kenneth Pollack was not involved in the Iraq war.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way that Einstein cult is a mirror reflection of american tendency to take credit for other people&#039;s work. Einstein was a commentator on science, protected by people bent on discrediting the german scientific establishment. The only credit that can be attributed to him is to be a faster publisher than the heavy wheights of continental Europe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Want to worship a god in science? Keep Henri Poincaré in your heart.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Einstein (who was NOT involved in the atomic bomb)&quot;</p>
<p>(From Einstein&#39;s letter to Roosvelt)<br />
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&quot;&#8230;A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;In view of this situation you may think it desirable to have some permanent contact maintained between the administration and the group of physicists working on chain reactions in America. One possible way of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial capacity. His task might comprise the following:</p>
<p>&quot;a) to approach Government Departments, keep them informed of the further development, and put forward recommendations for Government action, giving particular attention to the problem of scouring a supply of uranium ore for the United States;</p>
<p>&quot;b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required, through his contacts with private persons who are are willing to make contributions for this cause, and perhaps also by obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories which have the necessary equipment.<br />
===================</p>
<p>So Einstein was not involved in the atomic bomb in the same way that Kenneth Pollack was not involved in the Iraq war.</p>
<p>By the way that Einstein cult is a mirror reflection of american tendency to take credit for other people&#39;s work. Einstein was a commentator on science, protected by people bent on discrediting the german scientific establishment. The only credit that can be attributed to him is to be a faster publisher than the heavy wheights of continental Europe.</p>
<p>Want to worship a god in science? Keep Henri Poincaré in your heart.</p>
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		<title>By: roy belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>roy belmont</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maltby:&lt;br /&gt;
...but that kind of cover-up only abets antisemites with their theories about Jewish plotting in high places...&lt;br /&gt;
No, what it does is confirm an already existing suspicion. Break the glued-together bond of anti-semite/plotting-cabal. If you want to let light and air into the room. &lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s possible there really are plots and complex intrigues, it&#039;s possible there aren&#039;t any of importance. What&#039;s at issue is the truth and validity of the claims. On both sides.&lt;br /&gt;
Starting from an assumption of speciousness to the claims of intrigue, then using the tacit validity of that assumption to counteract those same claims, without ever having proved anything, is not a logical refutation. &lt;br /&gt;
It begins to look more and more like desperate housekeeping and damage control.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maltby:<br />
&#8230;but that kind of cover-up only abets antisemites with their theories about Jewish plotting in high places&#8230;<br />
No, what it does is confirm an already existing suspicion. Break the glued-together bond of anti-semite/plotting-cabal. If you want to let light and air into the room. <br />
It&#39;s possible there really are plots and complex intrigues, it&#39;s possible there aren&#39;t any of importance. What&#39;s at issue is the truth and validity of the claims. On both sides.<br />
Starting from an assumption of speciousness to the claims of intrigue, then using the tacit validity of that assumption to counteract those same claims, without ever having proved anything, is not a logical refutation. <br />
It begins to look more and more like desperate housekeeping and damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/04/jews-take-credi.html/comment-page-1#comment-62196</link>
		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was reading the isteve blog, chiefly due to the fact that he linked one of my stories.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here are some of the comments; I find them fascinating in their mindset:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Especially race realists should know that Ashkenazi Jews are, on average, simply a lot smarter than the rest of the world peoples. That&#039;s why they&#039;re so succesful. There&#039;s not much more to it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;that Ashkenazi Jews are, on average, simply a lot smarter than the rest of the world peoples&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;But still, none of your races of shkutzim come close to doing the amount of good that we do relative to the amount of evil that we do. And I mean that seriously.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;American Goy, was the &quot;apartheid&quot; remark a reference to Israel&#039;s immigration policies? Do you think they should be non-discriminating? I bet people at this blog would be plenty upset if you suggested that for the U.S!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Yes, there is a double-standard when it comes to White Christian Males. Our culture allows anyone considered a minority (including women, interestingly enough) to do whatever they can for social cohesion as well as to assist each other in getting a leg up while WCMes are supposed to take it in the ass. Shitry and true and worthy of being loudly pissed about.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Well that one is true actually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;American ~&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You have a Jew problem. Claiming that you don&#039;t is an exercise in Denial. The very name that you&#039;ve crowned yourself with points to your obsession. You should have that looked at and treated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To get you started on the road to recovery I&#039;ll simply reproduce the paragraph that you claim points to the crux of your problem with Jews and ask you to stop flashing your hideously distorted views in public. They do you no credit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jews in America represent the whole political spectrum - from anarchists, hippies, centrists, far right and fascist viewpoints (just like every other group in the country, duh!), the Jews in positions of POWER, the NEOCONS...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I am blown away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9430835&amp;postID=6104594955264236560&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
http://tinyurl.com/3dypz3&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading the isteve blog, chiefly due to the fact that he linked one of my stories.</p>
<p>Here are some of the comments; I find them fascinating in their mindset:</p>
<p>&quot;Especially race realists should know that Ashkenazi Jews are, on average, simply a lot smarter than the rest of the world peoples. That&#39;s why they&#39;re so succesful. There&#39;s not much more to it.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;that Ashkenazi Jews are, on average, simply a lot smarter than the rest of the world peoples&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;But still, none of your races of shkutzim come close to doing the amount of good that we do relative to the amount of evil that we do. And I mean that seriously.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;American Goy, was the &quot;apartheid&quot; remark a reference to Israel&#39;s immigration policies? Do you think they should be non-discriminating? I bet people at this blog would be plenty upset if you suggested that for the U.S!&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Yes, there is a double-standard when it comes to White Christian Males. Our culture allows anyone considered a minority (including women, interestingly enough) to do whatever they can for social cohesion as well as to assist each other in getting a leg up while WCMes are supposed to take it in the ass. Shitry and true and worthy of being loudly pissed about.&quot;<br />
Well that one is true actually.</p>
<p>&quot;American ~</p>
<p>You have a Jew problem. Claiming that you don&#39;t is an exercise in Denial. The very name that you&#39;ve crowned yourself with points to your obsession. You should have that looked at and treated.</p>
<p>To get you started on the road to recovery I&#39;ll simply reproduce the paragraph that you claim points to the crux of your problem with Jews and ask you to stop flashing your hideously distorted views in public. They do you no credit:</p>
<p>Jews in America represent the whole political spectrum &#8211; from anarchists, hippies, centrists, far right and fascist viewpoints (just like every other group in the country, duh!), the Jews in positions of POWER, the NEOCONS&#8230;&quot;</p>
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I am blown away.</p>
<p>https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9430835&amp;postID=6104594955264236560<br />
or<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3dypz3<br">link to tinyurl.com</a><br /> /></p>
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