Comments on: Reflections on Indiana as a Jewish Place

By: Jim Haygood

Jim Haygood — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

"I just got back from Bloomington, Indiana. My first visit there. The place has always resonated in my mind."

Mine too ...

http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/

By: Charles Keating

Charles Keating — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Indiana's War Casualties
March 19, 2008:

Spc. Ronald D. Allen Jr., 22, Mitchell. Pfc. John D. Amos II, 22, Valparaiso. Sgt. Brock A. Babb, 40, Evansville. Tech. Ryan A. Balmer, 33, Mishawaka. Cpl. Nathaniel S. Baughman, 23, Monticello. Cpl. Jason J. Beadles, 22, La Porte. Staff Sgt. Michael A. Bechert, 24, New Castle. Sgt. Jarrod W. Black, 26, Peru. Cpl. Jonathan F. Blair, 21, Fort Wayne. Staff Sgt. Richard A. Blakley, 34, Plainfield. Spc. Clinton C. Blodgett, 19, Pekin. 1st Lt. Shaun M. Blue, 25, Munster. Sgt. 1st Class Craig A. Boling, 38, Elkhart. Sgt. Kenneth R. Booker, 25, Vevay. Lance Cpl. James E. Brown, 20, Owensville. Spc. Roy Russell Buckley, 24, Portage. Sgt. Kyle W. Childress, 29, Terre Haute. Sgt. Robert E. Colvill Jr., 31, Anderson. Spc. Jeffrey W. Corban, 30, Elkhart. Lance Cpl. James R. Davenport, 20, Danville. Pfc. Darren A. Deblanc, 20, Evansville. Pvt. Cory R. Depew, 21, Beech Grove. Command Sgt. Maj. Steven W. Faulkenburg, 45, Huntingburg. Sgt. James D. Faulkner, 23, Clarksville. Spc. Matthew C. Frantz, 23, Lafayette. Pfc. Nathan J. Frigo, 23, Kokomo. Spc. Luke Frist, 20, Brookston. Spc. Carter A. Gamble Jr., 24, Brownstown. Spc. Zachariah J. Gonzalez, 23, Indianapolis. Lance Cpl. David J. Grames Sanchez, 22, Fort Wayne. Pfc. Deryk L. Hallal, 24, Indianapolis. Pvt. Jesse M. Halling, 19, Indianapolis. Pfc. Nicholas S. Hartge, 20, Rome City. Spc. Adam J. Harting, 21, Portage. Sgt. David M. Heath, 30, LaPorte. Pfc. Shawn D. Hensel, 20, Logansport. Pfc. Christopher E. Hudson, 21, Carmel. Spc. Nicholas R. Idalski, 23, Crown Point. Lance Cpl. Eric Indianapolis, 21, Avon. Spc. William A. Jeffries, 39, Evansville. Sgt. Rickey E. Jones, 21, Kokomo. Spc. Chad L. Keith, 21, Batesville. Staff Sgt. Matthew A. Kimmell, 30, Paxton. Staff Sgt. Bradley D. King, 28, Marion. Pfc. David A. Kirkpatrick, 20, Upland. Spc. Johnathan A. Lahmann, 21, Richmond. Pfc. Richard P. Langenbrunner, 19, Fort Wayne. Cpl. Eric R. Lueken, 23, Dubois. Pvt. Robert L. McKinley, 23, Peru. Spc. Antoine J. McKinzie, 25, Indianapolis. Staff Sgt. Frederick L. Miller Jr., 27, Hagerstown. Spc. Christopher T. Monroe, 19, Kendallville. Sgt. Robert J. Montgomery Jr., 29, Scottsburg. Pfc. Robert W. Murray Jr., 21, Westfield. Staff Sgt. Paul S. Pabla, 23, Fort Wayne. Pvt. Shawn D. Pahnke, 25, Shelbyville. Sgt. Nicholas J. Patterson, 24, Rochester. Spc. Brian H. Penisten, 28, Fort Wayne. Pvt. Jonathan R. Pfender, 22, Evansville. Cpl. Willard M. Powell, 21, Evansville. Sgt. Joseph E. Proctor, 38, Indianapolis. Cpl. Cody A. Putman, 22, Lafayette. Sgt. Duane R. Rios, 25, Griffith. Staff Sgt. Jonathan Rojas, 27, Hammond. Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, 19, Hobart. Seaman Apprentice Shayna Ann Schnell, 19, Tell City. Cpl. Aaron L. Seal, 23, Elkhart. Pfc. Anthony P. Seig, 19, Sunman. 1st Lt. Neale M. Shank, 25, Fort Wayne. Pfc. David N. Simmons, 20, Kokomo. Pfc. Steven F. Sirko, 20, Portage. Lance Cpl. Matthew R. Smith, 20, Anderson. Cpl. Darrell Smith, 28, Otwell. Pfc. Nathan E. Stahl, 20, Highland. Cpl. Joshua M. Strong, 21, Lebanon. Lance Cpl. James E. Swain, 20, Kokomo. Cpl. Lance M. Thompson, 21, Upland. Staff Sgt. Marvin L. Trost III, 28, Goshen. Spc. Andrew R. Weiss, 28, Lafayette. Spc. Raymond L. White, 22, Elwood. Spc. Michael J. Wiesemann, 20, North Judson. Pfc. David A. Wilkey Jr., 22, Elkhart. Cpl. Bryan S. Wilson, 22, Otterbein. Cpl. Ryan A. Woodward, 22, Fort Wayne. Lance Cpl. Scott A. Zubowski, 20, Manchester.

Source: Associated Press

What's in a name, time, place?

By: Charles Keating

Charles Keating — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Specialist Gomez set aside thoughts of a free Iraq or a safer America and, like generations of soldiers before him, simply started fighting for the soldier next to him:

A few days ago I realized why I am here in Baghdad dealing with all the gunfire, the rocket attacks, the IEDs, the car bombs, the death. I have only been here going on a month and a half. Already I have seen what war really is... but officially its called “full spectrum operations.” No I don’t down Bush, he is my CinC, and I think he is doing an good job with what Clinton left him. I don’t debate why we are involved in Iraq. I just know why I am here. It is not for the smiling Iraqi kids, or the even the feeling of wearing the uniform ( it feels damn good though :) . I am here for the soldier on patrol with me.
But why are you there in the states. Why are you having that nice dinner, watching TV, going out on dates...
Daniel Gomez, e-mail to friends and family. Sept. 27, 2006

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Interesting, the department of religious studies faculty at Indiana University Bloomington is somewhat evenly divided regarding christian and judaic researchers. I always forget america has as much jews as there are christians. Also interestingly some professors in "Jewish Studies Program", like one Bert Harrill may say about their work: "at least indirectly, my work can be a resource for those who wish to understand Christianity's role in oppressive social practices..."

By reading some of the titles of their work one may take a picture of the "nature" of the work going on there:

Christian (sample)
-Feminist Critique of Western Religions
-Queering Fundamentalism: John Balcom Shaw and the Sexuality of a Protestant Orthodoxy
-'Intellects Inflamed in Christ': Women and Spiritualized Scholarship in Renaissance Christianity.
-Prophetic Daughter: Mary Fletcher’s Narrative and Women’s Religious and Social Experiences in Eighteenth-Century British Methodism.
-Ethiopian Demons: Male Sexuality, the Black-Skinned Other, and the Monastic Self.
-War in the Twentieth Century: Sources in Theological Ethics
-New Israel, New Canaan: The Bible, the People of God, and the American Holocaust

Jews (sample):
-Surviving Sacrilege: Cultural Persistence in Jewish Antiquity.
-Preserving Memory: The Struggle to Create America's Holocaust Museum.
-Textual Reasonings: Jewish Philosophy and Text Study at the End of the Twentieth Century.
-Encircling the Law: The Legal Boundaries of Rabbinic Judaism.
-The Literary Context of the Moses Birth story.
-The Cannibalistic Language in the Fourth Gospel and the Greco-Roman Polemics of Factionalism.

There is a clear difference between the christian perspective (what of women and queerness - in an english sense - in christianity) and the jewish perspective (religious renewal, persistence, memory).

By: bondo

bondo — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

what cntrol of the media accomplishes. overrepresented? overrepresented only when the country, america, comes third, if that, to jewish elites-in-america and israel.

By: liberal white boy

liberal white boy — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Yes and Mark Spitz wanted to die for Israel but never quite got around to it. Such a courageous guy in that swimming pool.

By: bondo

bondo — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

interesting about spitz willing to sacrifice himself for israel. robert kraft's(patriots owner) wife has a nephew joining the israeli army. she is proud that he is willing to fight for israel/jews. she isglad he is not in usa military. to be in iraq is to fight for israel's purposes, but better to let usa non jews do this.

didnt realize it at the time; but when in college lit course, jewish prof assigned mainly jewish authors and in indirect way attacked christianity.

By: anonyma

anonyma — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

anonymous, it would help if you could give us a link.

All I can find is a really interesting and quite diverse department of religious studies.

And the faculty has a highly interesting mix of research areas:

http://www.indiana.edu/~relstud/faculty/

One of the largest and oldest departments of religious studies in the States!

http://www.indiana.edu/~relstud/about/

The Department of Religious Studies at Indiana University, Bloomington is one of the oldest and largest departments of religious studies in the nation and continues to be recognized as a leader in the field today. Our faculty study religious traditions across the globe, from Asia to Africa to Europe and North America, from antiquity to the present, and from a variety of perspectives. Some of us are primarily historians, who explore how particular religions originated and developed; others of us are ethicists or philosophers, who bring religious texts and practices to bear on questions of abiding and immediate interest; and others of us are ethnographers or anthropologists, who analyze how communities make meaning through religious beliefs and rituals. Most of us combine all of these ways of thinking about religion in our work, and we all are interested in the role that religion plays in culture and society more generally.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Anonyma, the link was given by Phil there at "impressive Shaul Magid." And if you do not put the effort to at least read the summary of each professor there do not expect me to give you more credit than trying to conceal the fact that "one of the largest and oldest departments of religious studies in the States" has become a jew-oriented and feminist-oriented think-tank.

By the way, most of the people there who appears to have no academic reason to be there are in the pseudo-christian team.

I was expecting someone to read the titles and criticize my tendentious selection of titles, but all that you could manage was reading the department self-definition and come here say I must be wrong because what I say is not in accordance with what they want you to believe.

By: Charles Keating

Charles Keating — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Interesting. For what it's worth, I had relatives who lived in Indiana many years. I myself lived on the border with Illinois.
Nobody I knew ever even met a jew in Indiana. Many since then have had children who died overseas. They have no clue. This is in accordance with history, of which, they also don't have a clue.