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		<title>By: jorge999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorge999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
(sorry this is off the topic)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Philip, Have you seen this Huffingtonpost article?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Einstein Letter: Belief In God &quot;Childish,&quot; Jews Not Chosen People&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/einstein-letter-belief-in_n_101626.html&lt;/p&gt;

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(sorry this is off the topic)</p>
<p>Philip, Have you seen this Huffingtonpost article?</p>
<p>Einstein Letter: Belief In God &quot;Childish,&quot; Jews Not Chosen People</p>
<p>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/einstein-letter-belief-in_n_101626.html</p>
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		<title>By: jorge999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorge999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re Chicago City Council&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bravo!  Their action needs to be replicated by state and local bodies all across the nation! &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Chicago City Council</p>
<p>Bravo!  Their action needs to be replicated by state and local bodies all across the nation! </p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;phil youre name keeps popping up everywhere lately...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12834&lt;br /&gt;
Speaking of which: the Obama-oids have gone out of their way to distance themselves – i.e., &quot;reject and denounce&quot; – those two hate-criminals, even though, as Philip Weiss trenchantly avers, a book by Obama&#039;s point man on the Middle East says pretty much the same thing. In response to all this, Scott McConnell, editor of The American Conservative, dryly remarked: &quot;At this point one wonders whether the people who deny the dramatic influence of the Israel lobby on American politics feel a little bit silly.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phil youre name keeps popping up everywhere lately&#8230;</p>
<p>http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12834<br />
Speaking of which: the Obama-oids have gone out of their way to distance themselves – i.e., &quot;reject and denounce&quot; – those two hate-criminals, even though, as Philip Weiss trenchantly avers, a book by Obama&#39;s point man on the Middle East says pretty much the same thing. In response to all this, Scott McConnell, editor of The American Conservative, dryly remarked: &quot;At this point one wonders whether the people who deny the dramatic influence of the Israel lobby on American politics feel a little bit silly.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have no fear, yesterday our protector Chairman Howard L. Berman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee issued the following statement:&lt;br /&gt;
“I am very concerned about the implications of an extensive new agreement for nuclear cooperation with Russia at a time when Russia has not been fully supportive of tough and far-reaching multilateral sanctions to convince Iran to cease its dangerous uranium enrichment activities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“The Bush Administration has not received enough support from Russia in dealing with Iran to justify moving forward with this agreement at this time.  Administration officials briefed our committee last week, but they were unable to offer convincing answers to our questions; we will give them a further opportunity in hearings on this subject next month. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“The Foreign Affairs Committee will very carefully review the agreement itself and all relevant issues, including whether additional legislation is required.”&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have no fear, yesterday our protector Chairman Howard L. Berman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee issued the following statement:<br />
“I am very concerned about the implications of an extensive new agreement for nuclear cooperation with Russia at a time when Russia has not been fully supportive of tough and far-reaching multilateral sanctions to convince Iran to cease its dangerous uranium enrichment activities.</p>
<p>“The Bush Administration has not received enough support from Russia in dealing with Iran to justify moving forward with this agreement at this time.  Administration officials briefed our committee last week, but they were unable to offer convincing answers to our questions; we will give them a further opportunity in hearings on this subject next month. </p>
<p>“The Foreign Affairs Committee will very carefully review the agreement itself and all relevant issues, including whether additional legislation is required.”</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember Postville, Phil?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is food for american comsumption:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080513/NEWS/80513006/1001/NEWS&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the same food without the &quot;fuck the american bozos&quot; package:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/108541.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Via Xymphora&lt;br /&gt;
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Postville, Phil?</p>
<p>This is food for american comsumption:<br />
<a href="http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080513/NEWS/80513006/1001/NEWS/p">link to desmoinesregister.com</a></p>
<p>This is the same food without the &quot;fuck the american bozos&quot; package:<br />
<a href="http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/108541.html/p">link to jta.org</a></p>
<p>Via Xymphora<br />
<a href="http://xymphora.blogspot.com//p">link to xymphora.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For those who know not the Postville saga here is a past comment from The One David:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;================================&lt;br /&gt;
In the 90s, Lubavitchers from Brooklyn headed west to a small town in the middle of Iowa and took over a meat packing business. Their relations with the goyim were the subject of a book--&lt;br /&gt;
Stephen G. Bloom, Postville: A clash of cultures in heartland America, Harcourt 2000.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bloom is pretty sympathetic and, as the title indicates, tries to paint the encounter as somehow symmetrical. But the depth of the hostility to the goyim is still very shocking. The group ended up literally taking over the town and driving the gentiles out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although the book had a major publisher it remained pretty well buried But it was widely discussed in the Jewish community. For example--&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Indeed, there are many Jews--Orthodox Jews and undoubtedly non-Orthodox Jews--who were quite offended by Bloom’s book, by his disloyalty to the Jewish people, demonstrated by his &#039;washing Jewish dirty laundry in public.&#039;&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.bnaiemet.org/ColumnR/2004/r2004_kippur1.htm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As NotInMyName wrote, the sect should not be confused with all of Jewishness. But it would also be wrong not to recognize their significance, particularly overseas. I believe our current White House Chief of Staff is a Lubavitcher.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Posted by: David &#124; December 12, 2007 at 09:56 AM&lt;br /&gt;
================================&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And of course, this is Witty right after:&lt;br /&gt;
================================&lt;br /&gt;
The Lubavitch do some great things...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...etc etc finishing with:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The opportunistic potshots at the Lubavitch are really petty, innaccurate, and revealing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Posted by: Richard Witty &#124; December 12, 2007 at 11:14 AM &lt;br /&gt;
================================&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Way to go, Witty...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who know not the Postville saga here is a past comment from The One David:</p>
<p>================================<br />
In the 90s, Lubavitchers from Brooklyn headed west to a small town in the middle of Iowa and took over a meat packing business. Their relations with the goyim were the subject of a book&#8211;<br />
Stephen G. Bloom, Postville: A clash of cultures in heartland America, Harcourt 2000.</p>
<p>Bloom is pretty sympathetic and, as the title indicates, tries to paint the encounter as somehow symmetrical. But the depth of the hostility to the goyim is still very shocking. The group ended up literally taking over the town and driving the gentiles out.</p>
<p>Although the book had a major publisher it remained pretty well buried But it was widely discussed in the Jewish community. For example&#8211;</p>
<p>&quot;Indeed, there are many Jews&#8211;Orthodox Jews and undoubtedly non-Orthodox Jews&#8211;who were quite offended by Bloom’s book, by his disloyalty to the Jewish people, demonstrated by his &#39;washing Jewish dirty laundry in public.&#39;&quot;<br />
<a href="http://www.bnaiemet.org/ColumnR/2004/r2004_kippur1.htm/p">link to bnaiemet.org</a></p>
<p>As NotInMyName wrote, the sect should not be confused with all of Jewishness. But it would also be wrong not to recognize their significance, particularly overseas. I believe our current White House Chief of Staff is a Lubavitcher.</p>
<p>Posted by: David | December 12, 2007 at 09:56 AM<br />
================================</p>
<p>And of course, this is Witty right after:<br />
================================<br />
The Lubavitch do some great things&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;etc etc finishing with:</p>
<p>The opportunistic potshots at the Lubavitch are really petty, innaccurate, and revealing.</p>
<p>Posted by: Richard Witty | December 12, 2007 at 11:14 AM <br />
================================</p>
<p>Way to go, Witty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look at this Charly, watch the expression and body language of Friedman carefully (video - below quote). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically I think, &quot;our friend&#039;s&quot; problem is, that he finds these arguments convincing; including the use of the bracket. See Glenn Greenwald:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/14/friedman/index.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Suck. On. This.&quot; That comes from one of the most revealing (and most repellent) three minutes of commentary one can find, illustrating the real face of the Friedman-led American foreign policy class (h/t Atrios):&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this Charly, watch the expression and body language of Friedman carefully (video &#8211; below quote). </p>
<p>Basically I think, &quot;our friend&#39;s&quot; problem is, that he finds these arguments convincing; including the use of the bracket. See Glenn Greenwald:</p>
<p>http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/14/friedman/index.html</p>
<p>&quot;Suck. On. This.&quot; That comes from one of the most revealing (and most repellent) three minutes of commentary one can find, illustrating the real face of the Friedman-led American foreign policy class (h/t Atrios):&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is the kind of relatively honest and cogent public (on the record) thinking by Obama that makes AIPAC-style Jewish Americans fear him:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_on_zionism_and_hamas.php&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Compare his nuanced responses in this interview with Hillary&#039;s and McCain&#039;s.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It will be interesting to see which way the working and lower-to-middle-middle-class white vote goes come November. Seems to me its a wash as to illegal immigration since all three candidates are the same (amnesty), and its a wash as to no PayGo spending, for the same reason (though McCain win win more here simply by going over their heads in terms of deficit financing), and it seems a wash in terms of Affirmative Action (just give me your wallet, Whitey, it&#039;s only fair--although Obama has actually said he would apply the economic means test, and disquality his own daughters); and so, what&#039;t the third key to the throne? Foreign policy, the war in Iraq, the next war with Iran... I&#039;m guessing most lunch bucket Americans take to the view that the war on terrah&#039;s been mismanaged, and they&#039;re naive about how we got into the war, and buy the line what do we do now? They don&#039;t like &quot;cut and run.&quot; Chaney&#039;s smart there. They won&#039;t see Iran coming down the pike, being set up as I type...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m afraid insane McCain will be the next president. Lieberman knows what he&#039;s doing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I&#039;m not even talking evangelicals. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nobody will wake up until the next president comes on TV to tell the masses we need to reinstate the military draft to save our country.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of relatively honest and cogent public (on the record) thinking by Obama that makes AIPAC-style Jewish Americans fear him:</p>
<p>http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_on_zionism_and_hamas.php</p>
<p>Compare his nuanced responses in this interview with Hillary&#39;s and McCain&#39;s.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see which way the working and lower-to-middle-middle-class white vote goes come November. Seems to me its a wash as to illegal immigration since all three candidates are the same (amnesty), and its a wash as to no PayGo spending, for the same reason (though McCain win win more here simply by going over their heads in terms of deficit financing), and it seems a wash in terms of Affirmative Action (just give me your wallet, Whitey, it&#39;s only fair&#8211;although Obama has actually said he would apply the economic means test, and disquality his own daughters); and so, what&#39;t the third key to the throne? Foreign policy, the war in Iraq, the next war with Iran&#8230; I&#39;m guessing most lunch bucket Americans take to the view that the war on terrah&#39;s been mismanaged, and they&#39;re naive about how we got into the war, and buy the line what do we do now? They don&#39;t like &quot;cut and run.&quot; Chaney&#39;s smart there. They won&#39;t see Iran coming down the pike, being set up as I type&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#39;m afraid insane McCain will be the next president. Lieberman knows what he&#39;s doing. </p>
<p>And I&#39;m not even talking evangelicals. </p>
<p>Nobody will wake up until the next president comes on TV to tell the masses we need to reinstate the military draft to save our country.</p>
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		<title>By: peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the May 12 issue of the New Yorker,  on p. 114 there is a cartoon of a woman speaking to a man on a tractor with a cornfield in back of him.  The caption:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot; What don&#039;t you understand? When my clients fly their guests over your farm on the way to Vegas,  they&#039;d like to see the words &#039;Mazel tov, Josh&#039; spelled out in your cornfield&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is this funny because this farmer doesn&#039;t get it that the overlords want to be flattered as they look down on America?  This is really weird.  I cannot think of a benign interpretation of the cartoon.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the May 12 issue of the New Yorker,  on p. 114 there is a cartoon of a woman speaking to a man on a tractor with a cornfield in back of him.  The caption:</p>
<p>&quot; What don&#39;t you understand? When my clients fly their guests over your farm on the way to Vegas,  they&#39;d like to see the words &#39;Mazel tov, Josh&#39; spelled out in your cornfield&quot;</p>
<p>Is this funny because this farmer doesn&#39;t get it that the overlords want to be flattered as they look down on America?  This is really weird.  I cannot think of a benign interpretation of the cartoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Blaine</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love Stephen Kinzer for his superb book &quot;Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael Blaine&lt;br /&gt;
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Stephen Kinzer for his superb book &quot;Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala.&quot;</p>
<p>Michael Blaine<br />
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com</p>
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