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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Commentary&#8217; Ignores Palestinians&#8217; Eyewitness Testimony in Denying that Zionists Drove Arabs From Jaffa in &#8217;48</title>
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		<title>By: bar_kochba132</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/jaffa-1948-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-59507</link>
		<dc:creator>bar_kochba132</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Arabs drove out Jews (or, &quot;ethnically cleansed them&quot;) from Hevron partially in 1929, and totally in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gaza in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gush Etzion in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of the Old City in Jerusalem in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Beit Ha&#039;arava in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Atarot in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Kfar Darom in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Shechem (Nablus) in 1936, etc, etc, etc, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arabs drove out Jews (or, &quot;ethnically cleansed them&quot;) from Hevron partially in 1929, and totally in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gaza in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gush Etzion in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of the Old City in Jerusalem in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Beit Ha&#39;arava in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Atarot in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Kfar Darom in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Shechem (Nablus) in 1936, etc, etc, etc, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Karsh also denied that Zionist leaders in the 1930s and 40s were thinking of transfer. Benny Morris wrote a propos of this: “Karsh can shout until he is blue in the face that the Zionist leaders in the 1930s and 1940s rejected all thought of transfer: Mountains of evidence speak to the contrary.” &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karsh also denied that Zionist leaders in the 1930s and 40s were thinking of transfer. Benny Morris wrote a propos of this: “Karsh can shout until he is blue in the face that the Zionist leaders in the 1930s and 1940s rejected all thought of transfer: Mountains of evidence speak to the contrary.” </p>
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		<title>By: bantam</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/jaffa-1948-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-59509</link>
		<dc:creator>bantam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t forget the covenant they have entered into with Janus.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Slightly off topic,or is it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0820,home-alone-mdash-with-medicaid-fraudsters,440951,4.html&lt;br /&gt;
village voice &gt; news &gt; Home Alone—With Medicaid Fraudsters by Tom Robbins&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;What&#039;s more interesting are some of the characters alleged to be at the top of the food chain in the home-care fraud schemes. This month, Cuomo brought his biggest case yet, charging a Brooklyn firm called B&amp;H Healthcare Services, doing business as Nursing Personnel Home Care, with having bilked the state out of at least $30 million in bogus Medicaid billings.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cuomo filed a criminal indictment—alleging grand larceny and fraud—against the company and its president, a man named Walter Greenfeld. He simultaneously filed a civil suit in State Supreme Court asking for treble damages against the company (that would be $90 million), and named the firm&#039;s officers and shareholders as defendants.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s one of the interesting aspects of the civil suit: Several of the shareholders identified in the lawsuit have the same last names—Schreiber and Goldstein—as the two principal officers of B&amp;H Photo, the giant camera retailer on Ninth Avenue. Moreover, according to Cuomo&#039;s complaint, B&amp;H Home Health Care/Nursing Personnel for some reason paid more than $2 million to B&amp;H Photo.Then there&#039;s the fact that the biggest owner in B&amp;H/Nursing Personnel, according to the complaint, is a major political contributor named Isaac &quot;Yitzchok&quot; Schwartz, who lives on Rodney Street in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and holds 40 percent of the company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Schwartz is well known in political circles as a generous donor to campaigns. He has mostly kept a low profile, but his picture got snapped in 1996 when he showed up at LaGuardia Airport with leaders of Williamsburg&#039;s Hasidic community to welcome then–Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole and escort him to a Brooklyn fundraiser.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t forget the covenant they have entered into with Janus.</p>
<p>Slightly off topic,or is it?</p>
<p>http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0820,home-alone-mdash-with-medicaid-fraudsters,440951,4.html<br />
village voice &gt; news &gt; Home Alone—With Medicaid Fraudsters by Tom Robbins</p>
<p>&quot;What&#39;s more interesting are some of the characters alleged to be at the top of the food chain in the home-care fraud schemes. This month, Cuomo brought his biggest case yet, charging a Brooklyn firm called B&amp;H Healthcare Services, doing business as Nursing Personnel Home Care, with having bilked the state out of at least $30 million in bogus Medicaid billings.</p>
<p>Cuomo filed a criminal indictment—alleging grand larceny and fraud—against the company and its president, a man named Walter Greenfeld. He simultaneously filed a civil suit in State Supreme Court asking for treble damages against the company (that would be $90 million), and named the firm&#39;s officers and shareholders as defendants.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s one of the interesting aspects of the civil suit: Several of the shareholders identified in the lawsuit have the same last names—Schreiber and Goldstein—as the two principal officers of B&amp;H Photo, the giant camera retailer on Ninth Avenue. Moreover, according to Cuomo&#39;s complaint, B&amp;H Home Health Care/Nursing Personnel for some reason paid more than $2 million to B&amp;H Photo.Then there&#39;s the fact that the biggest owner in B&amp;H/Nursing Personnel, according to the complaint, is a major political contributor named Isaac &quot;Yitzchok&quot; Schwartz, who lives on Rodney Street in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and holds 40 percent of the company.</p>
<p>Schwartz is well known in political circles as a generous donor to campaigns. He has mostly kept a low profile, but his picture got snapped in 1996 when he showed up at LaGuardia Airport with leaders of Williamsburg&#39;s Hasidic community to welcome then–Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole and escort him to a Brooklyn fundraiser.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/bassem_naeem/2008/05/hamas_condemns_the_holocaust.html&lt;br /&gt;
Hamas condemns the Holocaust&lt;br /&gt;
We are not engaged in a religious conflict with Jews; this is a political struggle to free ourselves from occupation and oppression&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bassem Naeem&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All Bassem Naeem articles &lt;br /&gt;
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May 12, 2008 2:30 PM &#124; Printable version&lt;br /&gt;
As the Palestinian people prepare to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Nakba (&quot;catastrophe&quot;) - the dispossession and expulsion of most of our people from our land - those remaining in Palestine face escalating aggression, killings, imprisonment, ethnic cleansing and siege. But instead of support and solidarity from the western media, we face frequent attempts to defend the indefensible or turn fire on the Palestinians themselves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One recent approach, which seems to be part of the wider attempt to isolate the elected Palestinian leadership, is to portray Hamas and the population of the Gaza strip as motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment, rather than a hostility to Zionist occupation and domination of our land. A recent front page article in the International Herald Tribune followed this line, as did an article for Cif about an item broadcast on the al-Aqsa satellite TV channnel about the Nazi Holocaust.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/bassem_naeem/2008/05/hamas_condemns_the_holocaust.html<br />
Hamas condemns the Holocaust<br />
We are not engaged in a religious conflict with Jews; this is a political struggle to free ourselves from occupation and oppression</p>
<p>Bassem Naeem</p>
<p>All Bassem Naeem articles <br />
About Webfeeds<br />
May 12, 2008 2:30 PM | Printable version<br />
As the Palestinian people prepare to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Nakba (&quot;catastrophe&quot;) &#8211; the dispossession and expulsion of most of our people from our land &#8211; those remaining in Palestine face escalating aggression, killings, imprisonment, ethnic cleansing and siege. But instead of support and solidarity from the western media, we face frequent attempts to defend the indefensible or turn fire on the Palestinians themselves.</p>
<p>One recent approach, which seems to be part of the wider attempt to isolate the elected Palestinian leadership, is to portray Hamas and the population of the Gaza strip as motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment, rather than a hostility to Zionist occupation and domination of our land. A recent front page article in the International Herald Tribune followed this line, as did an article for Cif about an item broadcast on the al-Aqsa satellite TV channnel about the Nazi Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: liberal white boy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/jaffa-1948-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-59511</link>
		<dc:creator>liberal white boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of Palestinians, eat your heart out Phil, Mondo Weiss Boy just scored a major interview with Norman G. Finkelstein.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An Interview With Professor Norman G. Finkelstein &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com/2008/05/interview-with-professor-norman-g.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Palestinians, eat your heart out Phil, Mondo Weiss Boy just scored a major interview with Norman G. Finkelstein.</p>
<p>An Interview With Professor Norman G. Finkelstein </p>
<p>http://homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com/2008/05/interview-with-professor-norman-g.html</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bar Kochba wrote:&quot;Arabs drove out Jews (or, &quot;ethnically cleansed them&quot;) from Hevron partially in 1929, and totally in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gaza in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gush Etzion in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of the Old City in Jerusalem in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Beit Ha&#039;arava in 1948; ...&quot; etc.etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So it was in fact the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Israel. Would your source for these extraordinary statements by any chance be Mr.Efraim Karsh?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bar Kochba wrote:&quot;Arabs drove out Jews (or, &quot;ethnically cleansed them&quot;) from Hevron partially in 1929, and totally in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gaza in 1936; Arabs drove Jews out of Gush Etzion in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of the Old City in Jerusalem in 1948; Arabs drove Jews out of Beit Ha&#39;arava in 1948; &#8230;&quot; etc.etc.</p>
<p>So it was in fact the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Israel. Would your source for these extraordinary statements by any chance be Mr.Efraim Karsh?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Arie Brand, I don&#039;t know how you are, but the fact that ethnic cleansing was practiced by both sides is pretty much indisputable. Uri Avnery, for one,says so. Yes, some Jews - about 10,000 - were ethnically cleansed from some territories in the Palestine during the War of Independence. Yes, this is much less than the number of Arabs who were ethnically cleansed (this number is disputed, but it is probably in the hundreds of thousands; those that left on their own accord - out of fear or whatever - for the most part were not allowed to return.) I can see in your comment the same disrespect and denial of some people&#039;s misery and the drive to claim exclusive victimhood as employed by the ardent Naqba deniers and Zionist apologists.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arie Brand, I don&#39;t know how you are, but the fact that ethnic cleansing was practiced by both sides is pretty much indisputable. Uri Avnery, for one,says so. Yes, some Jews &#8211; about 10,000 &#8211; were ethnically cleansed from some territories in the Palestine during the War of Independence. Yes, this is much less than the number of Arabs who were ethnically cleansed (this number is disputed, but it is probably in the hundreds of thousands; those that left on their own accord &#8211; out of fear or whatever &#8211; for the most part were not allowed to return.) I can see in your comment the same disrespect and denial of some people&#39;s misery and the drive to claim exclusive victimhood as employed by the ardent Naqba deniers and Zionist apologists.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/jaffa-1948-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-59514</link>
		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;by defintion a zionist is a liar. by training a zionist is a liar. by &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by defintion a zionist is a liar. by training a zionist is a liar. by </p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/jaffa-1948-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-59515</link>
		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;term &#039;zionist&#039; is used in the west, esp, the usa. i think mainly to conceal the important zionists - jewry. antijew to say jews.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;israelis dont refer to themselves as &#039;zionist&#039;. the word has little meaning there.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>term &#39;zionist&#39; is used in the west, esp, the usa. i think mainly to conceal the important zionists &#8211; jewry. antijew to say jews.</p>
<p>israelis dont refer to themselves as &#39;zionist&#39;. the word has little meaning there.</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Yes, some Jews - about 10,000 - were ethnically cleansed from some territories in the Palestine during the War of Independence.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Ethnically cleansed&quot; means permanently removed. Are you telling me that the great majority of these Jews couldn&#039;t get back to the place they allegedly had initially been removed from, as happened to the Arabs?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To whine about the temporary dislocation of a comparatively small groups of Jews in the face of the massive injustice inflicted on the Arabs strikes me as grotesque.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And the Arabs &#039;left on their own accord&#039; did they? And during &#039;the war of independence&#039;? The very fact that you chose these formulations betrays unfailingly where you are coming from.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your moralizing about &#039;disrespect&#039; etc.and your pretence to stand above the parties will not hide it.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yes, some Jews &#8211; about 10,000 &#8211; were ethnically cleansed from some territories in the Palestine during the War of Independence.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Ethnically cleansed&quot; means permanently removed. Are you telling me that the great majority of these Jews couldn&#39;t get back to the place they allegedly had initially been removed from, as happened to the Arabs?</p>
<p>To whine about the temporary dislocation of a comparatively small groups of Jews in the face of the massive injustice inflicted on the Arabs strikes me as grotesque.</p>
<p>And the Arabs &#39;left on their own accord&#39; did they? And during &#39;the war of independence&#39;? The very fact that you chose these formulations betrays unfailingly where you are coming from.</p>
<p>Your moralizing about &#39;disrespect&#39; etc.and your pretence to stand above the parties will not hide it.</p>
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