more aid to Israel,

$2 Billions p.a. to Egypt

Frankly, I dont want to pay for the peace map or the peace trip or the peace road or the reconstruction of Plestine.

The US is broke.

I am hoping for a simple disengagement from Israel–a time when American citizens finally understand the state their country has sunk to and demand that we use our resources for ourselves and build a sustainable self-sufficient economy.

Israel will never make peace until it gets off the welfare dollar. And in any case, every year Israel does not make peace, the situation, demographically and militarily, gets more and more perilous for it. Young Israeli professionals like more and more to live outside of Israel. In my small town, I constantly meet Israelis that have left for better pastures. So in the long term, the country simply has no future as an ethno-religious theocracy, as it is now.

My one worry is that those Jews who stay behind will feel so backed into a corner that they will let the nukes fly, and the world will be truly SOL as a result.

On the other hand, I figure its leaders can predict the response of the rest of the world to such an event.

Oil will be about $1000 a barrel; Western Governments will be scrambling around to try to meet their energy needs, cutting whatever deals they can with the Russians, the Saudis, the Iranians, whatever Iraqi gov't exists; the US military, which currently consumes more energy than Greece does per year, largely shut down (as will be most other energy intensive militaries).

Think of all those Brooklynites sweltering in the desert; no water, no energy, no future, surrounded by angry, poor Muslims.

Funny stuff.

Phil is way too sanguine about Obama.

The fact is that Jewish power wants the same ol', same ol', and that is what Jewish power is gonna get, whether its McCain, Obama, or Billary. The sad thing is that the same ol', same ol' is a dead end for both America and Israel.

The rest of us are only here for the ride.

as for me, i really could give an owls hoot about the politics. Today the u.s is mired in many many problems from which it will not extricate itself without major changes, and sooner probably rather than later the american zionists whether jews or christians will be on the proverbial canoe without a paddle because a change is certainly coming.

obama to me represents only an outside chance for change in our middle east policy…in the end though he will probably be another wilsonian who will either be blackmailed into subservience or bribed by the desire to keep power into sacrificing the palestinian issue on the altar of zionism.

as for the jews in america, just be ware, the zionist dont give a hoot about you just as they did not give a hoot about the european jews…its all about the state, the "asset" is the state, and anti semitism whether here or anywhere else only serves to enrich the state with what a state needs, jewish population.

if america discovers this great "secret in american politics" as phil called it , how do you think john and jane doe, who have to shop at walmart and pay four dollars a gallon of gas will feel? would you like to gander a guess? youre smart enough, you wont have to dig too deep to come up with the answer, its all written right there in your dna.

america will resent you, and israel will gain more citizens when you leave on your aliyah.

Max Nordau
There is nothing innovative about this nationality. Before the sixth congress, Max Nordau, one of the leaders and founders of the Zionist movement wrote:
“…If Eretz Yisroel will once again be inhabited by Jews, the Jews will be able to hold onto her with their strength and with their labor (Today the number of inhabitants in Eretz Yisroel amounts to 600,000 people, among them 60,000 Jews, at the same time that some 6 million Jews aspire to return to this land.) Anti-Semitism shall no longer affect them for there they will be able to find rest and work and dedicate themselves to their occupation in peace, like any other nation that lives with confidence on their land. On the contrary the Jews who do not wish to return to Eretz Yisroel can remain in their places, as they wish, and if anti-Semitism shall continue to degrade them in the future as well, we will be forced to endure this situation as well. They could have escaped from it and they didn’t escape – probably they feel surrounded by good things and they tolerate their suffering with indifference, or they are not at all affected by it, or they have some other remedy. Let the situation be whatever it is – there is no need to worry about these people.”
If so, the purpose was already determined in the beginning of Zionism – Israel above all, and that is foremost. And so the people are for Zionism and the state, and not the state and Zionism for the people. If the state is an asset in its own right, then everything is legitimate in the quest to attain the state, because without the state there is no nation. (It’s interesting to note the explanation of Dina Poras, one of the most noteworthy holocaust researchers, for this argument in “Ho’oretz” 4.12.91: “From the moment that the state was made the most important, Jewish lives became secondary, because “the state of Israel is above all”; and again there is a striking similarity to “Deutschland iber ales”.

JEFFREY GOLDBERG: I’m curious to hear you talk about the Zionist idea. Do you believe that it has justice on its side?
BARACK OBAMA: You know, when I think about the Zionist idea, I think about how my feelings about Israel were shaped as a young man — as a child, in fact. I had a camp counselor when I was in sixth grade who was Jewish-American but who had spent time in Israel, and during the course of this two-week camp he shared with me the idea of returning to a homeland and what that meant for people who had suffered from the Holocaust, and he talked about the idea of preserving a culture when a people had been uprooted with the view of eventually returning home. There was something so powerful and compelling for me, maybe because I was a kid who never entirely felt like he was rooted. That was part of my upbringing, to be traveling and always having a sense of values and culture but wanting a place. So that is my first memory of thinking about Israel.
And then that mixed with a great affinity for the idea of social justice that was embodied in the early Zionist movement and the kibbutz, and the notion that not only do you find a place but you also have this opportunity to start over and to repair the breaches of the past. I found this very appealing.

Obama vs. The Lobby
No matter how much he grovels, it's never enough
Poor Obama. No matter how much he tries to placate the Israel lobby, they just won't take yes for an answer. The Lobby has been after him for months, trying to dig up "evidence" that someone with the middle name of "Hussein" is necessarily an enemy of Israel. The best they could come up with so far were the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's jeremiads, which didn't have much of an effect at the polls, as the North Carolina and Indiana primary results – and subsequent national polls – attest.

Yet Obama still keeps trying to appease the Lobby. He's purged staff members who so much as looked cross-eyed at the Israelis, such as one poor adviser who meekly suggested that talking to Hamas might not be such a bad idea. He was out faster than you can say Mearsheimer and Walt.

Speaking of which: the Obama-oids have gone out of their way to distance themselves – i.e., "reject and denounce" – those two hate-criminals, even though, as Philip Weiss trenchantly avers,