Comments on: Peretz and Goldberg Get Obama to Renew the Balfour Declaration http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/peretz-and-gold.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 01:16:47 +0000 hourly 1 By: Joachim Martillo http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/peretz-and-gold.html/comment-page-1#comment-59451 Joachim Martillo Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/05/16/peretz-and-gold.html#comment-59451 <p>It is an interesting analogy.</p> <p>Yet, if Weizman was the supplicant to Balfour and the government of Lloyd George, isn't it perhaps more correct to view Obama as supplicant to Peretz (in the role of press secretary for Judonia pehaps)?</p> <p>I am suspicious of the hagiographic accounts of the Balfour Declaration and suspect direct or indirect bribery. (One of the reasons I wish I had more time to do archival research.)</p> <p>Columbia Professor Stanislawski and Kornberg have for the most part confirmed the hypothesis that Herzl crafted the Dreyfus case into a fundraising narrative that differed considerably from his original analysis.</p> <p>Schiff may have been taken in by anti-Czarist propaganda. While Schiff was skewering the Czar's ability to raise money for the Russo-Japanese war, the Rothschilds were working closely with the Russian government to develop oil and mineral resources in the Caucasus. </p> <p>Was Schiff perhaps more angry at his exclusion fom the deal than he actually cared about the treatment of Russian Jews, who in comparison with Poles or with Muslims in the Caucasus do not really seem to have had much grounds for complaint?</p> <p>This history needs to be revisited. Stanislawski has done tremendous work in this regard, and it is worth noting that Stanislawski and Peretz have issues with one another.</p> <p>See http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/10/ahmadinejad-columbia-faculty-politics.html .</p> <p>BTW, most German and American Jews tended strongly to support the Kaiser during WW1. The Cousinhood and the Zionists probably wanted to make sure that Jewish eggs were not all in one basket.<br /> </p> It is an interesting analogy.

Yet, if Weizman was the supplicant to Balfour and the government of Lloyd George, isn't it perhaps more correct to view Obama as supplicant to Peretz (in the role of press secretary for Judonia pehaps)?

I am suspicious of the hagiographic accounts of the Balfour Declaration and suspect direct or indirect bribery. (One of the reasons I wish I had more time to do archival research.)

Columbia Professor Stanislawski and Kornberg have for the most part confirmed the hypothesis that Herzl crafted the Dreyfus case into a fundraising narrative that differed considerably from his original analysis.

Schiff may have been taken in by anti-Czarist propaganda. While Schiff was skewering the Czar's ability to raise money for the Russo-Japanese war, the Rothschilds were working closely with the Russian government to develop oil and mineral resources in the Caucasus.

Was Schiff perhaps more angry at his exclusion fom the deal than he actually cared about the treatment of Russian Jews, who in comparison with Poles or with Muslims in the Caucasus do not really seem to have had much grounds for complaint?

This history needs to be revisited. Stanislawski has done tremendous work in this regard, and it is worth noting that Stanislawski and Peretz have issues with one another.

See link to eaazi.blogspot.com
.

BTW, most German and American Jews tended strongly to support the Kaiser during WW1. The Cousinhood and the Zionists probably wanted to make sure that Jewish eggs were not all in one basket.

]]> By: Oarwell http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/peretz-and-gold.html/comment-page-1#comment-59452 Oarwell Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/05/16/peretz-and-gold.html#comment-59452 <p>Or else?</p> <p>(CNN) – During a speech before the National Rifle Association convention Friday afternoon in Louisville, Kentucky, former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee — who has endorsed presumptive GOP nominee John McCain — joked that an unexpected offstage noise was Democrat Barack Obama looking to avoid a gunman.</p> <p>“That was Barack Obama, he just tripped off a chair, he's getting ready to speak,” said the former Arkansas governor, to audience laughter. “Somebody aimed a gun at him and he dove for the floor.”</p> <p>Those Republicans! What a bunch of jokers! He should change his name to Yuckabee!</p> <p>Someone left the gate unchained on Mike Huckabee's id. That joke, surfacing from what repellent reservoir in the man's mind, broadcasts in the clearest possible terms where the lines are drawn.</p> <p>Almost as eldritch as the habitually grave-still David Gergen's joke that if Hillary is named VP Obama will need<br /> a food taster.</p> <p>Where there's joke, there's fire.<br /> </p> Or else?

(CNN) – During a speech before the National Rifle Association convention Friday afternoon in Louisville, Kentucky, former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee — who has endorsed presumptive GOP nominee John McCain — joked that an unexpected offstage noise was Democrat Barack Obama looking to avoid a gunman.

“That was Barack Obama, he just tripped off a chair, he's getting ready to speak,” said the former Arkansas governor, to audience laughter. “Somebody aimed a gun at him and he dove for the floor.”

Those Republicans! What a bunch of jokers! He should change his name to Yuckabee!

Someone left the gate unchained on Mike Huckabee's id. That joke, surfacing from what repellent reservoir in the man's mind, broadcasts in the clearest possible terms where the lines are drawn.

Almost as eldritch as the habitually grave-still David Gergen's joke that if Hillary is named VP Obama will need
a food taster.

Where there's joke, there's fire.

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