‘Times’ Defines Nakba as ‘Israel’s Birth.’ Is That Right?

by Philip Weiss on May 6, 2008 · 10 comments

Ethan Bronner, the Times writer who reviewed Jimmy Carter’s book and dismissed it as "strange" and "little," has a piece in tomorrow’s times about Israeli Arabs’ mixed feelings as the 60th birthday of the state approaches.

Better off and better integrated than ever in their history, freer than the vast majority of other Arabs, Israel’s 1.3 million Arab citizens are still far less well off than Israeli Jews and feel increasingly unwanted. On Thursday, which is Independence Day, thousands will gather in their former villages to protest what they have come to call the “nakba,” or catastrophe, meaning Israel’s birth.

That seems to me a strange and little definition. As I understand it, Nakba refers to the expulsion and massacre of Arabs, not just the political definition of the territory they were living in, which after all had been Turkish, then U.N./British  in the previous 30 years.

Bronner’s also a little wiggly about the expulsion:

After the United Nations General Assembly voted in late 1947 for two states in Palestine, one Arab and one Jewish, local Arab militias and their regional supporters went on the offensive against Jewish settlements, in anger over the United Nations’ support for a Jewish state. Zionist forces counterattacked.

The new historians suggest that Zionists did plenty of attacking on their own. This account is, plainly, one-sided.

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  4. Nakba Makes ‘The New Yorker’
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{ 10 comments }

1 neocognitism May 6, 2008 at 8:26 pm

Bronner is just repeating the same canard that we'll be hearing for years to come, that Israel only ever responds, and therefore there is no cycle of violence.

I'm so tired of that absurdly stupid and childish thoroughly-debunked-yet-infinitely-recycled talking point.

On Israel's 60th Birthday, how about growing up a little closer to adulthood and taking responsibility for one's actions?

That said, I am glad there is a place in the world where people of the Jewish faith feel safe and can always go to. I don't agree with how she was created, but what's done is done and we must just concentrate on the best way to move forward for our client state.

2 bondo May 6, 2008 at 8:35 pm

totally sick of zionists, light and knuckle dragger, money bags and foot soldier. sick of their foot kissers.

so…

i was offered a seltzer water earlier today. the label had 'kosher' certified by rabbi j. h. ralbag, orthodox rabbinate.

why does carbonated water need to be certified? how would co2 into water be impure? does tap water need to be certified? is the nyc water system inspected by rabbis? does air need to be certified? who/ what pays for this "service". very little that is certified is enjoyed only by observing jews. most of this kosher stuff is bought by non jews.

i want a refund. i suspect much of that money finds its way to israel or into causes i care little to nothing for it.

3 bondo May 6, 2008 at 8:41 pm

"That said, I am glad there is a place in the world where people of the Jewish faith feel safe and can always go to."neocognitism

there are at least 150 countries from which they left to which they may return.

"we must just concentrate on the best way to move forward for our client state." – neo….

correction neocognitism,

the usa is the client, obeying state.

4 Dean May 6, 2008 at 10:55 pm

Describing the *Nakba as "the birth of Israel" is tantamount to describing Auchswitz as "Germany's gas pipeline to Poland."

Ethan Bronner is just a garden-variety neurotic Jew. A lying little putz who can't bear to hear that "The Jewish Homeland" is not the poor liitle victim, much less guilty of ethnic cleansing, mass murder, a whole litany of ongoing racist barbarism against its captive neighbors.

5 Montag May 7, 2008 at 2:54 am

Israel is unique in that it has "internal refugees" who are legally kept from reoccupying their former homes. I think that is why the Israeli-Palestinians are gathering at "their FORMER villages." They fled out of terror but remained inside Israel. But since they fled their property was taken over by the State for the use of Jews only and they can never get it back! So even Israeli-Palestinians were victims of the Nakba.

6 Emmanuel May 7, 2008 at 8:28 am

"there are at least 150 countries from which they left to which they may return."

Those counntries aren't theirs anymore, just like Israel isn't the Palestinians' anymore.

Today I wish Israel a happy independence day and I wish for the Palestinians to have their own independence in Gaza and the West Bank as soon as possible.

7 Richard Witty May 7, 2008 at 8:38 am

I read the article this morning on the web.

I found it quite balanced and informative.

Similar to the statements by Lionpac, acknowledging that nakba occurred (which interpretation who knows), the Times article did describe that the nakba was a shared and valid experience, worthy of being known, NOT dismissed.

I find the exagerated and negative response to that reality (New York Times publishing without contempt on the front page of conflicts within Israeli society, and perspective) to be similar to Stokely Carmichael's calling Martin Luther King an "Uncle Tom".

Guess what. Martin Luther King and a hundred thousand assertive other "Uncle Toms" got Jim Crow overturned, and permanently.

8 bondo May 7, 2008 at 10:18 am

Those counntries aren't theirs anymore, just like Israel isn't the Palestinians' anymore.

Today I wish Israel a happy independence day and – Emmanuel

return and become a citizen. very easy for jews to do as many are doing.

today, i wish israel a painful and quick death.

9 saifedean May 7, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Only in America can an article run with such a moronic mistake as the sequence of events of 1948.

For the record, almost 400,000 of the Palestinian refugees were expelled BEFORE any Arab soldier had 'attacked' Israel or the state of Israel was declared. The ethnic cleansing had started in 1947. To portray it as a counter-attack is too stupid to even hold logically, let alone factually.

10 Charles Keating May 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

It was/is a calculated mistake. Merely ignorant recipients morph to practical morons due to withholding of information from them.

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