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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Vanity Fair&#8217; Breaks Taboo on Discussing Jewish Rise and WASP Decline</title>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The issue is not merely Jews vs. WASPs but is Yids versus &quot;Our Crowd.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a sort of echo of the situation in inter bellum Poland.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Before WW1 Polish Jews and Polish Germans generally got along fairly well, for they functioned in different and complementary sectors of the economy of the Polish territories.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After WW1 the ethnic Polish leaders worked with Polish Jews to drive Polish Germans out of the economy, and Jewish-German hostility reached extreme levels.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Later suspicion developed towards Polish Jews because of the Soviet Jewish connection, but the Polish state needed Jews even more after the ruination of the Polish German economic sector, and the Polish government may have underestimated the Soviet threat in the aftermath of the Miracle of Warsaw.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I talk about the intra-Jewish difference in http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc198569875 but the section http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc198569894 is also important.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is not merely Jews vs. WASPs but is Yids versus &quot;Our Crowd.&quot;</p>
<p>There is a sort of echo of the situation in inter bellum Poland.</p>
<p>Before WW1 Polish Jews and Polish Germans generally got along fairly well, for they functioned in different and complementary sectors of the economy of the Polish territories.</p>
<p>After WW1 the ethnic Polish leaders worked with Polish Jews to drive Polish Germans out of the economy, and Jewish-German hostility reached extreme levels.</p>
<p>Later suspicion developed towards Polish Jews because of the Soviet Jewish connection, but the Polish state needed Jews even more after the ruination of the Polish German economic sector, and the Polish government may have underestimated the Soviet threat in the aftermath of the Miracle of Warsaw.</p>
<p>I talk about the intra-Jewish difference in <a href="http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc198569875">link to members.aol.com</a><br /> but the section <a href="http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc198569894">link to members.aol.com</a><br /> is also important.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;In short, what is the new Jewish leadership&#039;s agenda for the Middle East? And does the next generation of Jews want Zionism incised on the facade of the Lincoln Memorial&quot;  -  mondow&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;new agenda same as old agenda. next generation, after serving in the israeli sadism force, will have israel incised on...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(what the old and the new and the future do for their entity):&lt;br /&gt;
Tough Love for Israel: The Deceitful `Peace Process&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Henry Siegman -- The Nation&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;... There is no prospect for a viable, sovereign Palestinian state, primarily because Israel&#039;s various governments, from 1967 until today, have never had the intention of allowing such a state to come into being ... As long as Israel knows that by delaying the peace process it buys time to create facts on the ground, and that the international community will continue to indulge Israel&#039;s pretense that its desire for a two-state solution is being frustrated by the Palestinians, no new peace initiative can succeed, and the dispossession of the Palestinian people will indeed become irreversible.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;In short, what is the new Jewish leadership&#39;s agenda for the Middle East? And does the next generation of Jews want Zionism incised on the facade of the Lincoln Memorial&quot;  &#8211;  mondow</p>
<p>new agenda same as old agenda. next generation, after serving in the israeli sadism force, will have israel incised on&#8230;</p>
<p>(what the old and the new and the future do for their entity):<br />
Tough Love for Israel: The Deceitful `Peace Process&#39;<br />
Henry Siegman &#8212; The Nation</p>
<p>&quot;&#8230; There is no prospect for a viable, sovereign Palestinian state, primarily because Israel&#39;s various governments, from 1967 until today, have never had the intention of allowing such a state to come into being &#8230; As long as Israel knows that by delaying the peace process it buys time to create facts on the ground, and that the international community will continue to indulge Israel&#39;s pretense that its desire for a two-state solution is being frustrated by the Palestinians, no new peace initiative can succeed, and the dispossession of the Palestinian people will indeed become irreversible.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: peters</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Basicly people don&#039;t like each other. When another group has a behavioral norm that differs it IS grating.  I defy any one to say otherwise. My ancestors came from Germany in the mid-nineteenth century and spoke German for 50 or 60 years until WWI when there was an anti-German backlash. What&#039;s the big deal? It passes.  UNLESS...there is a big deal. Jews have been accepted in America as well as any other immigrant group I think. Italians probably didn&#039;t get into the country club in Connecticut either. So what? When your children go to school together it starts melting. &lt;br /&gt;
African Americans have the bigger problem in that the historical crime was perpetrated by Americans.  Their sense of victimization is warranted.  But even in that case, entitlement deriving from victimization doesn&#039;t promote good things.&lt;br /&gt;
The Vanity Fair piece was superficial, Phil asks the more important questions.&lt;br /&gt;
AND I think Phil&#039;s wife is right.  Immigrant behavior can be somewhat annoying to others who don&#039;t need to prove themselves.  The English said it about Americans.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basicly people don&#39;t like each other. When another group has a behavioral norm that differs it IS grating.  I defy any one to say otherwise. My ancestors came from Germany in the mid-nineteenth century and spoke German for 50 or 60 years until WWI when there was an anti-German backlash. What&#39;s the big deal? It passes.  UNLESS&#8230;there is a big deal. Jews have been accepted in America as well as any other immigrant group I think. Italians probably didn&#39;t get into the country club in Connecticut either. So what? When your children go to school together it starts melting. <br />
African Americans have the bigger problem in that the historical crime was perpetrated by Americans.  Their sense of victimization is warranted.  But even in that case, entitlement deriving from victimization doesn&#39;t promote good things.<br />
The Vanity Fair piece was superficial, Phil asks the more important questions.<br />
AND I think Phil&#39;s wife is right.  Immigrant behavior can be somewhat annoying to others who don&#39;t need to prove themselves.  The English said it about Americans.  </p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;from a commenter at xymphora. dont know where to post it but it needs to be read. many more such. jews always being holocausted(the industry started at least ww1) or a way to get wealth. magical six million.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;September 29, 1919, p. 7, New York Times&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FELIX M. WARBURG TELLS&lt;br /&gt;
SAD PLIGHT OF JEWS&lt;br /&gt;
Felix M. Warburg Says They Were the Worst Sufferers in War.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Felix M. Warburg, Chairman of the Joint Distribution Committee of American Funds for Jewish War Sufferers, who returned several days ago from a trip to Europe for that organization, made public yesterday some of his findings.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry,&#039; he said, &#039;and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;The Jewish people throughout Eastern Europe, by sheer accident of geography, have suffered more from the war than any other element of the population. The potential vitality and the capacity for self-help that remains to those people after the last five years is amazing to me.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The people are deeply moved by the help given them by America, Mr. Warburg said, but it would be fatal to lessen the emergency aid now while millions are in tragic need. The $30,000,000 spent by this committee, he said, has fed and clothed more than a million children and it has renewed the hope of five million parents and elders.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;For more than four years,&#039; he said, &#039;The war on the Eastern front was fought largely in the congested centers of Jewish population. A straight north and south line from Riga, on the Baltic, to Salonica, on the Aegean Sea, will touch every important battle area of the Eastern war zone and every center of Jewish population. After the cataclysm of the last few years it is too much to expect this Jewry to become self-sustaining in a short twelve-month.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mr. Warburg is concerned over the program soon to be started for the discontinuance of emergency relief. This plan, he said, calls for the formation of a $10,000,000 reconstruction corporation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;This organization,&#039; he said, &#039;would afford facilities for constructive aid to Jews abroad in the way of loans and credit at nominal interest rates. The value of this sort of assistance as a substitute for pure charity is apparent.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Other relief projects recommended by Mr. Warburg include the establishment of an express company to forward money and packages from Jews in this country to relatives and friends abroad; the distribution of $120,000 worth of fuel in sections of Poland where destitution is greatest; the purchase of $300,000 worth of cloth in the bolt whereby unemployed workmen of Poland may get raw material, and a plan to reunite those Jewish families that have relatives in the United States and those who have become separated abroad.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;note from me: during vietnam conflict and gulf war 1, jews also suffered more than all other sectors of se asia and iraq.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from a commenter at xymphora. dont know where to post it but it needs to be read. many more such. jews always being holocausted(the industry started at least ww1) or a way to get wealth. magical six million.</p>
<p>September 29, 1919, p. 7, New York Times</p>
<p>FELIX M. WARBURG TELLS<br />
SAD PLIGHT OF JEWS<br />
Felix M. Warburg Says They Were the Worst Sufferers in War.</p>
<p>Felix M. Warburg, Chairman of the Joint Distribution Committee of American Funds for Jewish War Sufferers, who returned several days ago from a trip to Europe for that organization, made public yesterday some of his findings.</p>
<p>&#39;The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry,&#39; he said, &#39;and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.</p>
<p>&#39;The Jewish people throughout Eastern Europe, by sheer accident of geography, have suffered more from the war than any other element of the population. The potential vitality and the capacity for self-help that remains to those people after the last five years is amazing to me.&#39;</p>
<p>The people are deeply moved by the help given them by America, Mr. Warburg said, but it would be fatal to lessen the emergency aid now while millions are in tragic need. The $30,000,000 spent by this committee, he said, has fed and clothed more than a million children and it has renewed the hope of five million parents and elders.</p>
<p>&#39;For more than four years,&#39; he said, &#39;The war on the Eastern front was fought largely in the congested centers of Jewish population. A straight north and south line from Riga, on the Baltic, to Salonica, on the Aegean Sea, will touch every important battle area of the Eastern war zone and every center of Jewish population. After the cataclysm of the last few years it is too much to expect this Jewry to become self-sustaining in a short twelve-month.&#39;</p>
<p>Mr. Warburg is concerned over the program soon to be started for the discontinuance of emergency relief. This plan, he said, calls for the formation of a $10,000,000 reconstruction corporation.</p>
<p>&#39;This organization,&#39; he said, &#39;would afford facilities for constructive aid to Jews abroad in the way of loans and credit at nominal interest rates. The value of this sort of assistance as a substitute for pure charity is apparent.&#39;</p>
<p>Other relief projects recommended by Mr. Warburg include the establishment of an express company to forward money and packages from Jews in this country to relatives and friends abroad; the distribution of $120,000 worth of fuel in sections of Poland where destitution is greatest; the purchase of $300,000 worth of cloth in the bolt whereby unemployed workmen of Poland may get raw material, and a plan to reunite those Jewish families that have relatives in the United States and those who have become separated abroad.&quot;</p>
<p>note from me: during vietnam conflict and gulf war 1, jews also suffered more than all other sectors of se asia and iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, may I look forward to a new version of The Way We Were?&lt;br /&gt;
The Robert Redford part will be a Jewish American, somebody with endearing appropriate features, perhaps even a younger Phil Weiss,  the Barb Streisand part, played by an obvious schiksa actress. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seems there&#039;s already a lot to build on for the look from TV sitcoms over the last decades. Instead of cutsy back &amp; forth, you play romantic with big-time serious undertones. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Growing up, for me the WASP &quot;preppie&quot; style set the standard--except when I didn&#039;t live in the small suburbs; in the city it could get you harassed, beat up. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since the early 80&#039;s there&#039;s been a plethora of teen-young adult movies where the bad guy&#039;s been the WASP preppie (nearly always rich &amp; blonde). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For a quarter of a century.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, now will this cultural role casting slowly reverse? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What will the usual teen-young adult movie and TV couple&lt;br /&gt;
series show us, say in 2030? Which type will be the usual bad guy versus our hero protagonist? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having said that I&#039;m no WASP lover--I&#039;ve always hated frat rats; besides, look at what they did to our country--why, just look at Bush--he makes a good case for good riddance. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, may I look forward to a new version of The Way We Were?<br />
The Robert Redford part will be a Jewish American, somebody with endearing appropriate features, perhaps even a younger Phil Weiss,  the Barb Streisand part, played by an obvious schiksa actress. </p>
<p>Seems there&#39;s already a lot to build on for the look from TV sitcoms over the last decades. Instead of cutsy back &amp; forth, you play romantic with big-time serious undertones. </p>
<p>Growing up, for me the WASP &quot;preppie&quot; style set the standard&#8211;except when I didn&#39;t live in the small suburbs; in the city it could get you harassed, beat up. </p>
<p>Since the early 80&#39;s there&#39;s been a plethora of teen-young adult movies where the bad guy&#39;s been the WASP preppie (nearly always rich &amp; blonde). </p>
<p>For a quarter of a century.</p>
<p>So, now will this cultural role casting slowly reverse? </p>
<p>What will the usual teen-young adult movie and TV couple<br />
series show us, say in 2030? Which type will be the usual bad guy versus our hero protagonist? </p>
<p>Having said that I&#39;m no WASP lover&#8211;I&#39;ve always hated frat rats; besides, look at what they did to our country&#8211;why, just look at Bush&#8211;he makes a good case for good riddance. </p></p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is tangential to the subject of this post as it deals with the character of Schwarzman himself rather than with the issue raised by Phil. Still, it would be worthwhile if the nature of Schwarzman supposedly generous donation was examined. There is a reason to suspect that Schwarzman, while trying to look good and more &quot;legit&quot; by making charitable donations, in reality still keeps his profits in mind (even beyond the obvious questionable use of the term &quot;charitable&quot;  for something that is clearly a purchase - in this case of the naming rights). A recent New Yorker profile of Schwarzman&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/02/11/080211fa_fact_stewart &lt;br /&gt;
mentions two following cases (among other unpleasant facts about the guy in question):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Schwarzman pledged ten million dollars to the Kennedy Center, but the pledge was to be fulfilled over ten years, which gave it a present value significantly lower than ten million. According to a fellow member of the library board, “He has given, but not remotely what he could. A big capital campaign is coming up. We hope that he’ll give very generously.”&lt;br /&gt;
One of Schwarzman’s most controversial proposed gifts was to Yale, his alma mater, which, during the late nineties, agreed to name the freshman dining commons after Schwarzman in return for $17 million. Some people at Yale thought the commitment was in hand, but it emerged that Schwarzman’s gift would actually be a contribution to one of Blackstone’s investment partnerships on Yale’s behalf. No money would change hands until the fund was liquidated, and there was a risk that the investment might be worth far less than $17 million (although there was also the possibility that it would be worth more). Yale balked at trading a significant naming opportunity for what it considered a speculative commitment, and Schwarzman did not give the money.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am not in favor of smear campaigns and so am a bit uncomfortable crossing into this territory, but somehow I feel this guy&#039;s history warrants a closer examination of the matter.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is tangential to the subject of this post as it deals with the character of Schwarzman himself rather than with the issue raised by Phil. Still, it would be worthwhile if the nature of Schwarzman supposedly generous donation was examined. There is a reason to suspect that Schwarzman, while trying to look good and more &quot;legit&quot; by making charitable donations, in reality still keeps his profits in mind (even beyond the obvious questionable use of the term &quot;charitable&quot;  for something that is clearly a purchase &#8211; in this case of the naming rights). A recent New Yorker profile of Schwarzman<br />
<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/02/11/080211fa_fact_stewart">link to newyorker.com</a></p>
<p>mentions two following cases (among other unpleasant facts about the guy in question):</p>
<p>&quot;Schwarzman pledged ten million dollars to the Kennedy Center, but the pledge was to be fulfilled over ten years, which gave it a present value significantly lower than ten million. According to a fellow member of the library board, “He has given, but not remotely what he could. A big capital campaign is coming up. We hope that he’ll give very generously.”<br />
One of Schwarzman’s most controversial proposed gifts was to Yale, his alma mater, which, during the late nineties, agreed to name the freshman dining commons after Schwarzman in return for $17 million. Some people at Yale thought the commitment was in hand, but it emerged that Schwarzman’s gift would actually be a contribution to one of Blackstone’s investment partnerships on Yale’s behalf. No money would change hands until the fund was liquidated, and there was a risk that the investment might be worth far less than $17 million (although there was also the possibility that it would be worth more). Yale balked at trading a significant naming opportunity for what it considered a speculative commitment, and Schwarzman did not give the money.&quot;</p>
<p>I am not in favor of smear campaigns and so am a bit uncomfortable crossing into this territory, but somehow I feel this guy&#39;s history warrants a closer examination of the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Felix Warburg: &#039;The Jewish people throughout Eastern Europe, by sheer accident of geography, have suffered more from the war than any other element of the population. The potential vitality and the capacity for self-help that remains to those people after the last five years is amazing to me.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is something very obtuse about the above claim because practically all of Poland was a battlefield in WW1, which was then followed by the Polish Soviet War of 1920.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Warburg apparently looked at Poland and saw only Jewish suffering which differed in no obvious way from ethnic Polish suffering.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix Warburg: &#39;The Jewish people throughout Eastern Europe, by sheer accident of geography, have suffered more from the war than any other element of the population. The potential vitality and the capacity for self-help that remains to those people after the last five years is amazing to me.&#39;</p>
<p>There is something very obtuse about the above claim because practically all of Poland was a battlefield in WW1, which was then followed by the Polish Soviet War of 1920.</p>
<p>Warburg apparently looked at Poland and saw only Jewish suffering which differed in no obvious way from ethnic Polish suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Ghost</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Note that much of the Jewish wealth that so scares politicians nowadays had its origins in the huge financial bubble that now is passing into history. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anybody wonder why all five members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors are Jews.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jewish wealth and influence are likely to recede (at least on a relative basis) in the years ahead as the economy shifts away from parasitic financial bubbles that enrich the  few at the expense of the many towards more productive and useful activities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The heavily Jewish financial industry is on the ropes but farmers are prospering as never before.   And very few farmers and ranchers are Jewish.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that much of the Jewish wealth that so scares politicians nowadays had its origins in the huge financial bubble that now is passing into history. </p>
<p>Anybody wonder why all five members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors are Jews.</p>
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<p>Jewish wealth and influence are likely to recede (at least on a relative basis) in the years ahead as the economy shifts away from parasitic financial bubbles that enrich the  few at the expense of the many towards more productive and useful activities.</p>
<p>The heavily Jewish financial industry is on the ropes but farmers are prospering as never before.   And very few farmers and ranchers are Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: 5ds</title>
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		<dc:creator>5ds</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The heavily Jewish financial industry is on the ropes but farmers are prospering as never before.&quot; - Crimson Ghost &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i know very little about such things but i will guess that farmers and truck drivers and teachers and soldiers and fry cooks will be bailing out the financial industry. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The heavily Jewish financial industry is on the ropes but farmers are prospering as never before.&quot; &#8211; Crimson Ghost </p>
<p>i know very little about such things but i will guess that farmers and truck drivers and teachers and soldiers and fry cooks will be bailing out the financial industry. </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/vanity-fair-bre.html/comment-page-1#comment-59264</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kevin MacDonald is anti-semitic, how so?  And how is smearing MacDonald as anti-semitic any different from smearing Jimmy Carter or Mearsheimer &amp; Walt as anti-semitic?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not intended to be merely a rhetorical question, I am really curious as to the basis of your allegation, Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Over the weekend I spent some time reading a book by Stephen Kinzer detailing how the American and British governments conducted the overthrow of the Iranian regime in 1953.  Subsequently, the Shah maintained an iron hand over the Iranian people and was seen as a not so benevolent imposition of American power.  Ever since the Shah was forced from power in the late 70&#039;s, Iran has maintained a degree of hostility toward America.  I certainly don&#039;t see this hostility as some sort of intrinsic hatred of Americans.  Instead it should be seen as a justified resentment of America having imposed its own interests upon Iranians in a very undemocratic fashion, using bribes, controlled media...and whatever other levers of power available to impose American power upon suffering Iranians.  Granted most Americans did not actively support that coup, but it was performed for our &#039;benefit&#039;, by our governing body.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are not most Americans out here in flyover land likewise entitled to a degree of resentment toward those who impose our MidEast policies designed to &#039;benefit&#039; Israel upon us?  Why would any reasonable person conclude that resentment to be a form of racism as suggested by the &quot;anti-semitic&quot; labeling?  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin MacDonald is anti-semitic, how so?  And how is smearing MacDonald as anti-semitic any different from smearing Jimmy Carter or Mearsheimer &amp; Walt as anti-semitic?</p>
<p>This is not intended to be merely a rhetorical question, I am really curious as to the basis of your allegation, Phil.</p>
<p>Over the weekend I spent some time reading a book by Stephen Kinzer detailing how the American and British governments conducted the overthrow of the Iranian regime in 1953.  Subsequently, the Shah maintained an iron hand over the Iranian people and was seen as a not so benevolent imposition of American power.  Ever since the Shah was forced from power in the late 70&#39;s, Iran has maintained a degree of hostility toward America.  I certainly don&#39;t see this hostility as some sort of intrinsic hatred of Americans.  Instead it should be seen as a justified resentment of America having imposed its own interests upon Iranians in a very undemocratic fashion, using bribes, controlled media&#8230;and whatever other levers of power available to impose American power upon suffering Iranians.  Granted most Americans did not actively support that coup, but it was performed for our &#39;benefit&#39;, by our governing body.</p>
<p>Are not most Americans out here in flyover land likewise entitled to a degree of resentment toward those who impose our MidEast policies designed to &#39;benefit&#39; Israel upon us?  Why would any reasonable person conclude that resentment to be a form of racism as suggested by the &quot;anti-semitic&quot; labeling?  </p>
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