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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59347</link>
		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-Israel.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FULL STOP.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-Israel.&quot;</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.</p>
<p>FULL STOP.</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-Israel.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FULL STOP.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-Israel.&quot;</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>NO.</p>
<p>what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.</p>
<p>FULL STOP.</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59349</link>
		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Nakba commemoration has shadowed the 60th birthday stuff the way that Tibetan protesters have shadowed the Chinese Olympics, and has scared Zionists. Its narrative, of ethnic cleansing and landgrab in &#039;48, has gained traction, even among progressive Jews here, because that narrative is proved on a continuing basis by Israel settlement policy, the unending landgrab and cleansing.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Absolutely.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I will now blogspam here, in which (my) article I basically write the same thing using 5000 more words :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/05/al-nakba-word-myth-struggle.html&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
http://tinyurl.com/5pvpe4&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Nakba commemoration has shadowed the 60th birthday stuff the way that Tibetan protesters have shadowed the Chinese Olympics, and has scared Zionists. Its narrative, of ethnic cleansing and landgrab in &#39;48, has gained traction, even among progressive Jews here, because that narrative is proved on a continuing basis by Israel settlement policy, the unending landgrab and cleansing.&quot;</p>
<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>I will now blogspam here, in which (my) article I basically write the same thing using 5000 more words :-)</p>
<p>http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/05/al-nakba-word-myth-struggle.html<br />
or<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5pvpe4</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to tinyurl.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil Weiss</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59350</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Americangoy, you are right. I have never agreed with W&amp;M&#039;s insistence on speakng of israel&#039;s best interest, it is hard enough to know what america&#039;s best interest is without putting yourself in the mind of france or egypt or anyone else. israel has been gong down a wrongheaded path for a long time... &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americangoy, you are right. I have never agreed with W&amp;M&#39;s insistence on speakng of israel&#39;s best interest, it is hard enough to know what america&#39;s best interest is without putting yourself in the mind of france or egypt or anyone else. israel has been gong down a wrongheaded path for a long time&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59351</link>
		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mr. Weiss.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I may be so bold as to say here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While the neocons always look at the problem with the following question: &quot;What is best for Israel?&quot;, I tend to look at it from &quot;What is best for America?&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Somehow this can be spun as anti-semitic, racist and David Duke like :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate irony is (and remember, my position is I do not give a **** about Israel, one way or another) is that the neocons and the pro-Israel Lobby here in the USA REALLY IS BAD for Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, Saddam was a danger to Israel and from a realpolitik perspective had to be taken out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the price of taking out Saddam is a Shia, pro Iran state and possibly (even worse case scenario) actually does become a &quot;Mad Max&quot; kind of a situation, a la Somalia and an actual terrorist base, for al Kaida and others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do not think that, from a cold blooded pro Israel realpolitik perspective (the most cynical kind) taking out Saddam is ultimately worth destabilizing the whole Middle East (which &quot;destabilizing the whole Middle East&quot; was actually the neocons PLAN, starting with the &quot;Clean Break&quot; policy paper and then the PNAC organized to actually carry those policies out).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After all, no sane (and Saddam was secular, and could play the game) would DIRECTLY attack Israel with missiles, WMD, gas, whatever.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A terrorist organization, perhaps soon BASED in Iraq (after the US inevitably leaves) will have no qualms about doing so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have to say I really enjoy yours and Mr. Silverstein&#039;s blogs, they are a breath of fresh air and are written pretty well, and so are a joy to read.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr. Weiss.</p>
<p>If I may be so bold as to say here:</p>
<p>While the neocons always look at the problem with the following question: &quot;What is best for Israel?&quot;, I tend to look at it from &quot;What is best for America?&quot;.</p>
<p>Somehow this can be spun as anti-semitic, racist and David Duke like :-)</p>
<p>
The ultimate irony is (and remember, my position is I do not give a **** about Israel, one way or another) is that the neocons and the pro-Israel Lobby here in the USA REALLY IS BAD for Israel.</p>
<p>Yes, Saddam was a danger to Israel and from a realpolitik perspective had to be taken out.</p>
<p>But the price of taking out Saddam is a Shia, pro Iran state and possibly (even worse case scenario) actually does become a &quot;Mad Max&quot; kind of a situation, a la Somalia and an actual terrorist base, for al Kaida and others.</p>
<p>I do not think that, from a cold blooded pro Israel realpolitik perspective (the most cynical kind) taking out Saddam is ultimately worth destabilizing the whole Middle East (which &quot;destabilizing the whole Middle East&quot; was actually the neocons PLAN, starting with the &quot;Clean Break&quot; policy paper and then the PNAC organized to actually carry those policies out).</p>
<p>After all, no sane (and Saddam was secular, and could play the game) would DIRECTLY attack Israel with missiles, WMD, gas, whatever.</p>
<p>A terrorist organization, perhaps soon BASED in Iraq (after the US inevitably leaves) will have no qualms about doing so.</p>
<p>I have to say I really enjoy yours and Mr. Silverstein&#39;s blogs, they are a breath of fresh air and are written pretty well, and so are a joy to read.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of &quot;well written&quot;, holy cow - the above is the worst written comment of mine on any blog (hopefully you get the gist of my jumbled up thoughts).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my defense, I have a few margaritas in me tonight and, anyway, when I post articles on my blog there is always the blessed &quot;EDIT&quot; option :-)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &quot;well written&quot;, holy cow &#8211; the above is the worst written comment of mine on any blog (hopefully you get the gist of my jumbled up thoughts).</p>
<p>In my defense, I have a few margaritas in me tonight and, anyway, when I post articles on my blog there is always the blessed &quot;EDIT&quot; option :-)</p>
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		<title>By: cogit8</title>
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		<dc:creator>cogit8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, as I have stated previously, there is now no possibility of a genuine Palestinian State alongside of (or inside the control of)Israel. When the various reasons why this is become apparent, most people will realize that the two-state solution is a chimera, an unobtainable objective. And of course, you can hear the Jewish handringing which no doubt will occur when &quot;those Arabs refuse to accept Their State which we (out of the goodness of our Jewish hearts) have sincerely tried to give them&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &#039;settlements&#039; won&#039;t go away and the arabs won&#039;t leave peacefully like they did in 1948. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The acceptance of a two-state solution by modern zionists is quite similar to their so-called acceptance of the Partition Plan of 1947. They&#039;ll draw out the negotiations over &quot;final status&quot; items for the next two generations, while attempting to cleanse Gaza and the West Bank with tanks, bulldozers, and strangulating seige. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil, I don&#039;t hear a peep out of you concerning the biggest elephant in our room: the warmongering against Iran. Are you afraid to express an opinion? or just onboard with the Party Line?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, as I have stated previously, there is now no possibility of a genuine Palestinian State alongside of (or inside the control of)Israel. When the various reasons why this is become apparent, most people will realize that the two-state solution is a chimera, an unobtainable objective. And of course, you can hear the Jewish handringing which no doubt will occur when &quot;those Arabs refuse to accept Their State which we (out of the goodness of our Jewish hearts) have sincerely tried to give them&quot;. </p>
<p>The &#39;settlements&#39; won&#39;t go away and the arabs won&#39;t leave peacefully like they did in 1948. </p>
<p>The acceptance of a two-state solution by modern zionists is quite similar to their so-called acceptance of the Partition Plan of 1947. They&#39;ll draw out the negotiations over &quot;final status&quot; items for the next two generations, while attempting to cleanse Gaza and the West Bank with tanks, bulldozers, and strangulating seige. </p>
<p>Phil, I don&#39;t hear a peep out of you concerning the biggest elephant in our room: the warmongering against Iran. Are you afraid to express an opinion? or just onboard with the Party Line?</p>
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		<title>By: agog</title>
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		<dc:creator>agog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It tempting to be heartened by Goldberg&#039;s NYT op-ed, but if his recent grotesque interrogation of Obama for The Atlantic Monthly (once a screw...?) is anything to go by he still feels entitled to lord it over the political class as a gatekeeper with respect to acceptable postions on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The lobby, I&#039;m afraid, lives notwithstanding the best efforts of W&amp;M, PW, RS and a few other admirable figures.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It tempting to be heartened by Goldberg&#39;s NYT op-ed, but if his recent grotesque interrogation of Obama for The Atlantic Monthly (once a screw&#8230;?) is anything to go by he still feels entitled to lord it over the political class as a gatekeeper with respect to acceptable postions on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.</p>
<p>The lobby, I&#39;m afraid, lives notwithstanding the best efforts of W&amp;M, PW, RS and a few other admirable figures.  </p>
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		<title>By: ZOBR</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59355</link>
		<dc:creator>ZOBR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found an excellent Dutch Documentary about the Israel Lobby in America. I&#039;m sure most of you have seen it, but for those who have not, the documentary is gonna be very interesting...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an excellent Dutch Documentary about the Israel Lobby in America. I&#39;m sure most of you have seen it, but for those who have not, the documentary is gonna be very interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>http://youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/we-are-all-mear.html/comment-page-1#comment-59356</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil: I wouldn&#039;t get too excited about Goldberg&#039;s piece.  And God, if he&#039;s the best Jewish journalist we have out there then we&#039;re in trouble.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, he did make some helpful pts.  But this passage struck me as hopelessly timid &amp; wrong-headed: &quot;Barack Obama and John McCain...should be able to talk, in blunt terms, about the full range of dangers faced by Israel, including the danger Israel has brought upon itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But this won’t happen until Aipac and the leadership of the American Jewish community allow it to happen.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He expects that AIPAC &amp; the Jewish gerontocracy will &quot;allow&quot; Obama &amp; McCain to engage in &quot;straight talk&quot; about the I-P conflict?  Meaning, that they both should be able to call a spade &amp; spade &amp; criticize BOTH SIDES?  Come off it, man.  What kind of delusion is this guy lingering under?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AIPAC is petrified of precisely this type of freewheeling debate.  They won&#039;t ever &quot;allow&quot; it to happen.  They&#039;ll have to be dragged screaming &amp; kicking into such a debate.  And if we wait for the &quot;grandees&quot; to allow the candidates to talk freely, we&#039;ll be waiting till Mashiach comes if not longer.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil: I wouldn&#39;t get too excited about Goldberg&#39;s piece.  And God, if he&#39;s the best Jewish journalist we have out there then we&#39;re in trouble.</p>
<p>Yes, he did make some helpful pts.  But this passage struck me as hopelessly timid &amp; wrong-headed: &quot;Barack Obama and John McCain&#8230;should be able to talk, in blunt terms, about the full range of dangers faced by Israel, including the danger Israel has brought upon itself.</p>
<p>But this won’t happen until Aipac and the leadership of the American Jewish community allow it to happen.&quot;</p>
<p>He expects that AIPAC &amp; the Jewish gerontocracy will &quot;allow&quot; Obama &amp; McCain to engage in &quot;straight talk&quot; about the I-P conflict?  Meaning, that they both should be able to call a spade &amp; spade &amp; criticize BOTH SIDES?  Come off it, man.  What kind of delusion is this guy lingering under?</p>
<p>AIPAC is petrified of precisely this type of freewheeling debate.  They won&#39;t ever &quot;allow&quot; it to happen.  They&#39;ll have to be dragged screaming &amp; kicking into such a debate.  And if we wait for the &quot;grandees&quot; to allow the candidates to talk freely, we&#39;ll be waiting till Mashiach comes if not longer.</p>
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