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	<title>Comments on: Head&#8217;s Up! Incoming! They&#8217;re Over There! Two Neoconservatives Spotted, Crowing About Iraq, in Armchairs</title>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;As usual with the neocons, I wonder how much of Kagan&#039;s ideology comes out of a Jewish identification with Israel that I did not receive with my mother&#039;s milk but most Jews in the U.S. did. Clifford May of course fails to ask. Zero transparency.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No surprise there!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Foundation_for_the_Defense_of_Democracies#Origins_of_FDD&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Daniel McCarthy expressed an enhanced view of FDD&#039;s origins in the November 17, 2003, issue of The American Conservative.[1]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In early 2001, a tightly knit group of billionaire philanthropists conceived of a plan to win American sympathy for Israel&#039;s response to the Palestinian intifada. They believed that the Palestinian cause was finding too much support within crucial segments of the American public, particularly within the media and on college campuses, so they set up an organization, Emet: An Educational Initiative, Inc., to offer Israel the kind of PR that the Israeli government seemed unable to provide itself. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At first, Emet floundered, without an executive director or a well-defined mission. But that changed after Sept. 11, and Emet changed too, into what is now the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. The name is different, but the goal of influencing America&#039;s opinion-forming classes remains. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What makes all of this possible is the support the foundation receives from its billionaire backers. Its nearly $3 million annual budget comes from 27 major donors, most of whom are members of &quot;the Study Group&quot;--also sometimes called the &quot;Mega Group&quot; because of their sizeable contributions--a semi-formal organization of major Jewish philanthropists who meet twice a year to discuss joint projects. &lt;br /&gt;
Leonard Abramson was the point man for establishing Emet. He, Michael Steinhardt, and Edgar Bronfman were the foundation&#039;s board of directors at the time of its incorporation in the spring of 2001. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;As usual with the neocons, I wonder how much of Kagan&#39;s ideology comes out of a Jewish identification with Israel that I did not receive with my mother&#39;s milk but most Jews in the U.S. did. Clifford May of course fails to ask. Zero transparency.&quot;</p>
<p>No surprise there!</p>
<p>http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Foundation_for_the_Defense_of_Democracies#Origins_of_FDD</p>
<p>Daniel McCarthy expressed an enhanced view of FDD&#39;s origins in the November 17, 2003, issue of The American Conservative.[1]</p>
<p>In early 2001, a tightly knit group of billionaire philanthropists conceived of a plan to win American sympathy for Israel&#39;s response to the Palestinian intifada. They believed that the Palestinian cause was finding too much support within crucial segments of the American public, particularly within the media and on college campuses, so they set up an organization, Emet: An Educational Initiative, Inc., to offer Israel the kind of PR that the Israeli government seemed unable to provide itself. </p>
<p>At first, Emet floundered, without an executive director or a well-defined mission. But that changed after Sept. 11, and Emet changed too, into what is now the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. The name is different, but the goal of influencing America&#39;s opinion-forming classes remains. </p>
<p>What makes all of this possible is the support the foundation receives from its billionaire backers. Its nearly $3 million annual budget comes from 27 major donors, most of whom are members of &quot;the Study Group&quot;&#8211;also sometimes called the &quot;Mega Group&quot; because of their sizeable contributions&#8211;a semi-formal organization of major Jewish philanthropists who meet twice a year to discuss joint projects. <br />
Leonard Abramson was the point man for establishing Emet. He, Michael Steinhardt, and Edgar Bronfman were the foundation&#39;s board of directors at the time of its incorporation in the spring of 2001. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#039;Kagan treats the Iraq war as a great idea that had been &quot;foolishly&quot; waged for the first few years but is now returning benefits.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Iraq is not the only &quot;great idea&quot; of the neocon saboteurs. Afghanistan is shaping up to be the eff-up of the century, implies Eric Margolis:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The killing of 11 Pakistani soldiers by US air strikes last week showed that the American-led war in Afghanistan is relentlessly spreading into Pakistan, one of America’s oldest, most faithful allies. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has been openly advocating major ground and air attacks by US forces into Pakistan. American neoconservatives have been denouncing Pakistan as a &quot;rogue state&quot; and a &quot;sponsor of international terrorism,&quot; and are calling for US air and missile strikes against Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and reactors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Without the round the clock overhead presence of US airpower, which can respond in minutes, western forces in Afghanistan would risk being isolated, cut off from supplies, and defeated. A sizeable portion of NATO manpower in Afghanistan already goes to defending bases and supply depots. However, NATO’s long supply lines that bring in fuel, food, and ammunition across federally-administered tribal areas from US-run bases in Pakistan are increasingly under attack. Forty giant fuel tankers were recently destroyed at the Torkham border crossing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, the US and its NATO allies are edging ever closer to open warfare against Pakistan at a time when they are unable to defeat Taliban fighters inside Afghanistan due to lack of combat troops. The outgoing commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, US Gen. Dan McNeill, recently admitted he would need 400,000 soldiers to pacify that nation. The US and NATO have a combined force of around 60,000 troops in Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Widening the Afghan War into Pakistan is military stupidity on a grand scale and political madness. It could very well end up a bigger disaster than Iraq. But Washington and its obedient allies seem hell-bent on charging into a wider regional war that no number of heavy bombers will win.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis113.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Barack Obama has maintained some ambiguity on Iraq, but on Pakistan, he has firmly endorsed the neocon push to move into there and root out the terrorists. How many Amerikans are even aware that the U.S. has BASES IN PAKISTAN? Hello, it&#039;s five minutes to midnight; where&#039;s your KongressKlown?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does prospective President Obama know about General McNeill&#039;s estimate that it would take 400,000 troops to pacify Afghanistan? Isn&#039;t that the same thing that happened in the &quot;foolishly fought&quot; Iraq war -- not enough troops? Would a million be enough?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pay attention to the comments of Margolis [a military vet and no fool] about NATO&#039;s long supply lines in hostile territory. That&#039;s what drove the Russians out. Afghanistan is gonna be Obama&#039;s Masada; Obama&#039;s Alamo. In fact, Obama spelt backwards IS Alamo, innit? No wait, &#039;Amabo.&#039; And when NATO gets screwed backwards in America&#039;s next military defeat (Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan make three royal fuck-ups in a row), we can ironically call him President Amabo. Like his predecessor Airman Bush, Amabo&#039;s no frickin&#039; military genius.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>&#39;Kagan treats the Iraq war as a great idea that had been &quot;foolishly&quot; waged for the first few years but is now returning benefits.&#39;</p>
<p>Iraq is not the only &quot;great idea&quot; of the neocon saboteurs. Afghanistan is shaping up to be the eff-up of the century, implies Eric Margolis:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>The killing of 11 Pakistani soldiers by US air strikes last week showed that the American-led war in Afghanistan is relentlessly spreading into Pakistan, one of America’s oldest, most faithful allies. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has been openly advocating major ground and air attacks by US forces into Pakistan. American neoconservatives have been denouncing Pakistan as a &quot;rogue state&quot; and a &quot;sponsor of international terrorism,&quot; and are calling for US air and missile strikes against Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and reactors.</p>
<p>Without the round the clock overhead presence of US airpower, which can respond in minutes, western forces in Afghanistan would risk being isolated, cut off from supplies, and defeated. A sizeable portion of NATO manpower in Afghanistan already goes to defending bases and supply depots. However, NATO’s long supply lines that bring in fuel, food, and ammunition across federally-administered tribal areas from US-run bases in Pakistan are increasingly under attack. Forty giant fuel tankers were recently destroyed at the Torkham border crossing.</p>
<p>Now, the US and its NATO allies are edging ever closer to open warfare against Pakistan at a time when they are unable to defeat Taliban fighters inside Afghanistan due to lack of combat troops. The outgoing commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, US Gen. Dan McNeill, recently admitted he would need 400,000 soldiers to pacify that nation. The US and NATO have a combined force of around 60,000 troops in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Widening the Afghan War into Pakistan is military stupidity on a grand scale and political madness. It could very well end up a bigger disaster than Iraq. But Washington and its obedient allies seem hell-bent on charging into a wider regional war that no number of heavy bombers will win.</p>
<p>http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis113.html</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Barack Obama has maintained some ambiguity on Iraq, but on Pakistan, he has firmly endorsed the neocon push to move into there and root out the terrorists. How many Amerikans are even aware that the U.S. has BASES IN PAKISTAN? Hello, it&#39;s five minutes to midnight; where&#39;s your KongressKlown?</p>
<p>Does prospective President Obama know about General McNeill&#39;s estimate that it would take 400,000 troops to pacify Afghanistan? Isn&#39;t that the same thing that happened in the &quot;foolishly fought&quot; Iraq war &#8212; not enough troops? Would a million be enough?</p>
<p>Pay attention to the comments of Margolis [a military vet and no fool] about NATO&#39;s long supply lines in hostile territory. That&#39;s what drove the Russians out. Afghanistan is gonna be Obama&#39;s Masada; Obama&#39;s Alamo. In fact, Obama spelt backwards IS Alamo, innit? No wait, &#39;Amabo.&#39; And when NATO gets screwed backwards in America&#39;s next military defeat (Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan make three royal fuck-ups in a row), we can ironically call him President Amabo. Like his predecessor Airman Bush, Amabo&#39;s no frickin&#39; military genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A couple days ago: US soldier refuses to report for active duty in Iraq due to ‘Illegal Occupation’: A month after US army reservist Matthis Chiroux publicly refused to deploy to Iraq, the former sergeant last Sunday set himself up for possible prosecution by failing to report for active duty with his unit in South Carolina.&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Tonight at midnight, I may face further action from the army for refusing to reactivate to participate in the Iraq occupation,&quot; Chiroux told reporters in Washington.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;I stand here today in defense of those who have been stripped of their voices in this occupation, the warriors of this nation...&quot;, Chiroux read from a statement as his father Rob, who had travelled to Washington from Alabama to support his son on Father&#039;s Day, stood beside him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last month, Chiroux rejected an order calling him back to active duty in Iraq, saying he considers the war &quot;illegal and unconstitutional.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chiroux served five years in the army, with tours in Afghanistan, Japan, Germany and the Philippines.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He was honorably discharged last year and was placed in the Individual Ready Reserves (IRR), a pool of former soldiers who can be &quot;reactivated&quot; in a national emergency or war.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Prior to the Iraq war, IRR members were rarely recalled to active duty, according to the Military Times, an independent newspaper for members of the US armed forces and their families.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Many believed they never would be called -- but when the army found itself stretched by unexpected combat demands in Iraq in the summer of 2004 it began issuing mobilization orders,&quot; Military Times wrote in an article published a year ago on Sunday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to the paper, hundreds of IRR members &quot;refused to report or simply ignored their mailed mobilization orders.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matthis&#039; father Rob, a rocket scientist who lives in the army town of Huntsville, Alabama, said mobilizing IRR members was a form of back-door draft.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;If our country is in such a dire emergency that we need to conscript manpower, congress has to vote to reinstate the draft,&quot; the elder Chiroux told AFP.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;But they won&#039;t do that because if congress said we need to bring back the general draft, the war in Iraq would be resolved very quickly,&quot; he said.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Moms and dads, who represent millions and millions of voters, would say: wait a minute -- you want to draft my kid? Iraq&#039;s got to stop.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple days ago: US soldier refuses to report for active duty in Iraq due to ‘Illegal Occupation’: A month after US army reservist Matthis Chiroux publicly refused to deploy to Iraq, the former sergeant last Sunday set himself up for possible prosecution by failing to report for active duty with his unit in South Carolina.<br />
&quot;Tonight at midnight, I may face further action from the army for refusing to reactivate to participate in the Iraq occupation,&quot; Chiroux told reporters in Washington.</p>
<p>&quot;I stand here today in defense of those who have been stripped of their voices in this occupation, the warriors of this nation&#8230;&quot;, Chiroux read from a statement as his father Rob, who had travelled to Washington from Alabama to support his son on Father&#39;s Day, stood beside him.</p>
<p>Last month, Chiroux rejected an order calling him back to active duty in Iraq, saying he considers the war &quot;illegal and unconstitutional.&quot;</p>
<p>Chiroux served five years in the army, with tours in Afghanistan, Japan, Germany and the Philippines.</p>
<p>He was honorably discharged last year and was placed in the Individual Ready Reserves (IRR), a pool of former soldiers who can be &quot;reactivated&quot; in a national emergency or war.</p>
<p>Prior to the Iraq war, IRR members were rarely recalled to active duty, according to the Military Times, an independent newspaper for members of the US armed forces and their families.</p>
<p>&quot;Many believed they never would be called &#8212; but when the army found itself stretched by unexpected combat demands in Iraq in the summer of 2004 it began issuing mobilization orders,&quot; Military Times wrote in an article published a year ago on Sunday.</p>
<p>According to the paper, hundreds of IRR members &quot;refused to report or simply ignored their mailed mobilization orders.&quot;</p>
<p>Matthis&#39; father Rob, a rocket scientist who lives in the army town of Huntsville, Alabama, said mobilizing IRR members was a form of back-door draft.</p>
<p>&quot;If our country is in such a dire emergency that we need to conscript manpower, congress has to vote to reinstate the draft,&quot; the elder Chiroux told AFP.</p>
<p>&quot;But they won&#39;t do that because if congress said we need to bring back the general draft, the war in Iraq would be resolved very quickly,&quot; he said.</p>
<p>&quot;Moms and dads, who represent millions and millions of voters, would say: wait a minute &#8212; you want to draft my kid? Iraq&#39;s got to stop.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here is Justin Raimondo, quoting Shmuel Rosner:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;WINEP has just published the final version of a report by the Task Force on the Future of U.S.-Israel relations. The title is appealing: How to Deepen U.S.-Israel Cooperation on the Iranian Nuclear Challenge. But no less appealing is the list of people endorsing this report: Tony Lake and Susan Rice of the Obama campaign, Vin Weber, James Woolsey of the McCain camp.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://antiwar.com/justin/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I swear, I read the word &quot;appealing&quot; -- twice -- as &quot;appalling.&quot; Then realized it was out of context, coming from Rosner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just goes to show how you can see what you want to see, using your onboard realtime editing.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>Here is Justin Raimondo, quoting Shmuel Rosner:</p>
<p>&quot;WINEP has just published the final version of a report by the Task Force on the Future of U.S.-Israel relations. The title is appealing: How to Deepen U.S.-Israel Cooperation on the Iranian Nuclear Challenge. But no less appealing is the list of people endorsing this report: Tony Lake and Susan Rice of the Obama campaign, Vin Weber, James Woolsey of the McCain camp.&quot;</p>
<p>http://antiwar.com/justin/</p>
<p>I swear, I read the word &quot;appealing&quot; &#8212; twice &#8212; as &quot;appalling.&quot; Then realized it was out of context, coming from Rosner.</p>
<p>Just goes to show how you can see what you want to see, using your onboard realtime editing.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Go neocons, go!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Over 4,000 guys who were honorably discharged after Gulf War I&lt;br /&gt;
have been called back to go to Iraq eight years later. Sample:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/12/u_s_army_veteran_sues_over&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The neocons actually believe if we or Israel attack Iran there won&#039;t be any need for ground troops. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Without the backdoor draft, we couldn&#039;t even handle the current situation. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh well, those guys volunteered, so who cares? I just want to get on American Idol or an MTV reality show, or into an ivy league. Anyway, if they ever need the draft once we or Israel bomb Iran,&lt;br /&gt;
not to worry--we have lotsa young ladies who can go help too when their number comes up. Should be fun for them, tussling with the Muslim men fair and square...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go neocons, go!</p>
<p>Over 4,000 guys who were honorably discharged after Gulf War I<br />
have been called back to go to Iraq eight years later. Sample:<br />
<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/12/u_s_army_veteran_sues_over</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to democracynow.org</a></p>
<p>The neocons actually believe if we or Israel attack Iran there won&#39;t be any need for ground troops. </p>
<p>Without the backdoor draft, we couldn&#39;t even handle the current situation. </p>
<p>Oh well, those guys volunteered, so who cares? I just want to get on American Idol or an MTV reality show, or into an ivy league. Anyway, if they ever need the draft once we or Israel bomb Iran,<br />
not to worry&#8211;we have lotsa young ladies who can go help too when their number comes up. Should be fun for them, tussling with the Muslim men fair and square&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;speaking of volunteers. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Mr (William) Kristol, did you serve in the military?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;No, I did not have that pleasure. I served in other ways. I did have a friend who served.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;C-span for at least 10 months prior to the second jewish-demanded slaughter of iraq was all jewcon/neopet all the time. and with repeats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;viewers calling c-span to  give a different take would be cut off or declared(falsely) to have violated the one call/month limit or brian lamb and the other hosts would &quot;hit the wrong button&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of volunteers. </p>
<p>&quot;Mr (William) Kristol, did you serve in the military?&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;No, I did not have that pleasure. I served in other ways. I did have a friend who served.&quot;</p>
<p>C-span for at least 10 months prior to the second jewish-demanded slaughter of iraq was all jewcon/neopet all the time. and with repeats.</p>
<p>viewers calling c-span to  give a different take would be cut off or declared(falsely) to have violated the one call/month limit or brian lamb and the other hosts would &quot;hit the wrong button&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Funny how the truth creeps in, even when they lie:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;------------&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PARIS, June 17 -- President Nicolas Sarkozy Tuesday announced a major new defense policy that would integrate French troops into the command structure of the NATO alliance for the first time in more than four decades.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We can renew our relations with NATO without fearing for our independence and without the risk of being unwillingly dragged into a war,&quot; Sarkozy told senior government and military officials in a speech Tuesday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tinyurl.com/4q5n99&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Getting closer to NATO means PRECISELY &quot;being unwillingly dragged into a war,&quot; as NATO twists arms to supplement its hopelessly outgunned garrison of 60,000 multinational trops in Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Neocon Sarkozy is maneuvering to send innocent French youth to die in another bloody useless neocon war. The Afghans are gonna show NATO, just like they showed the Russians. France hasn&#039;t lost a war recently, so they&#039;re about ready for another lethal folly, engineered by the neocon saboteurs.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Funny how the truth creeps in, even when they lie:</p>
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<p>PARIS, June 17 &#8212; President Nicolas Sarkozy Tuesday announced a major new defense policy that would integrate French troops into the command structure of the NATO alliance for the first time in more than four decades.</p>
<p>&quot;We can renew our relations with NATO without fearing for our independence and without the risk of being unwillingly dragged into a war,&quot; Sarkozy told senior government and military officials in a speech Tuesday.</p>
<p>http://tinyurl.com/4q5n99</p>
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<p>Getting closer to NATO means PRECISELY &quot;being unwillingly dragged into a war,&quot; as NATO twists arms to supplement its hopelessly outgunned garrison of 60,000 multinational trops in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Neocon Sarkozy is maneuvering to send innocent French youth to die in another bloody useless neocon war. The Afghans are gonna show NATO, just like they showed the Russians. France hasn&#39;t lost a war recently, so they&#39;re about ready for another lethal folly, engineered by the neocon saboteurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hoop</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/c-spans-book-tv-which-usually-pits-ideological-adversaries-paired-up-clifford-may-president-of-the-foundation-for-defense.html/comment-page-1#comment-57817</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At least 51 killed in huge bombing in baghdad today. Then again it is assumed since the lives were Arab and not Jewish, Kagan will go on blustering about Iraqi success.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least 51 killed in huge bombing in baghdad today. Then again it is assumed since the lives were Arab and not Jewish, Kagan will go on blustering about Iraqi success.</p>
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