Comments on: Can Israel Teach Free Speech to the U.S.? Here’s Hoping. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html/comment-page-1#comment-57818 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/17/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html#comment-57818 <p>.</p> <p>"The Jewish mandarins who man so many turrets of our cultural establishment pulled up the portcullis (I think that metaphor's right), excluded them."</p> <p>Great metaphors, Phil, particularly the defensive/paranoid connotations of "turrets." But a portcullis is like a garage door -- raise it to open it, and vice versa.</p> <p>From Wikipedia:</p> <p>"There would often be two portcullises to the main entrance. The one closest to the inside would be closed first and then the one furthest away. This was used to trap the enemy and often, burning wood would be dropped onto them from the roof. Pouring hot oil is a myth, it was far too valuable and rare at the time to waste as such. Also, archers could shoot arrows at the trapped enemies."</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portcullis</p> <p>Bloody hell, how stupid do you have to be to rush into a tunnelled entryway blocked by a portcullis at the far end, and then the portcullis where you just entered drops shut, trapping you like a possum in a cage?</p> <p>About as stupid as rushing into the Iraqi briar patch on the advice of a bunch of neocon saboteurs ... and then letting the same kindly folks steer the agenda into attacking Iran. DOH!</p> .

"The Jewish mandarins who man so many turrets of our cultural establishment pulled up the portcullis (I think that metaphor's right), excluded them."

Great metaphors, Phil, particularly the defensive/paranoid connotations of "turrets." But a portcullis is like a garage door — raise it to open it, and vice versa.

From Wikipedia:

"There would often be two portcullises to the main entrance. The one closest to the inside would be closed first and then the one furthest away. This was used to trap the enemy and often, burning wood would be dropped onto them from the roof. Pouring hot oil is a myth, it was far too valuable and rare at the time to waste as such. Also, archers could shoot arrows at the trapped enemies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portcullis

Bloody hell, how stupid do you have to be to rush into a tunnelled entryway blocked by a portcullis at the far end, and then the portcullis where you just entered drops shut, trapping you like a possum in a cage?

About as stupid as rushing into the Iraqi briar patch on the advice of a bunch of neocon saboteurs … and then letting the same kindly folks steer the agenda into attacking Iran. DOH!

]]> By: Ed http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html/comment-page-1#comment-57819 Ed Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/17/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html#comment-57819 <p>"Can Israel Teach Free Speech to the U.S.?"</p> <p>Doubtful, considering the Zionist Occupied Congress is only getting worse:</p> <p>'Will next U.S. Congress top current record number of Jewish lawmakers?' <br /> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/993690.html</p> <p>I think all Jewish members of Congress should be identified as to whether or not they are Zionists whenever they are quoted on the Mideast, the same way, for example, that Tome DeLay was often identified as a Christian Zionist.</p> <p>For example: "Jewish Zionist Rahm Emanuel said today that the Palestinians need to..."</p> "Can Israel Teach Free Speech to the U.S.?"

Doubtful, considering the Zionist Occupied Congress is only getting worse:

'Will next U.S. Congress top current record number of Jewish lawmakers?'
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/17/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html#comment-57820 <p>Hah-Hah. Ed, you're funny! ROFL.</p> Hah-Hah. Ed, you're funny! ROFL.

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html/comment-page-1#comment-57821 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/17/can-israel-teach-free-speech-to-the-us-heres-hoping.html#comment-57821 <p>just because remnick wanted to APPEAR as if he could grapple with the ideas of walt and meersheimer doesn't mean that he did. his 'talk of the town' was the height of intellectual dishonesty. i think that of most of the (jewish) reviewers. just because remnick etc. tip their hat to some positive quality in the text they are trying to destroy , doesn't mean they are actually grappling with the ideas. i have seen this technique over and over at the nytimes (neocon)book review. what makes it so obvious is the flimsiness of the criticisms. "shoddy scholarship" , "canard", the fact that the criticisms are all the same , from reviewer to reviewer.<br /> remnick is such a lightweight. </p> just because remnick wanted to APPEAR as if he could grapple with the ideas of walt and meersheimer doesn't mean that he did. his 'talk of the town' was the height of intellectual dishonesty. i think that of most of the (jewish) reviewers. just because remnick etc. tip their hat to some positive quality in the text they are trying to destroy , doesn't mean they are actually grappling with the ideas. i have seen this technique over and over at the nytimes (neocon)book review. what makes it so obvious is the flimsiness of the criticisms. "shoddy scholarship" , "canard", the fact that the criticisms are all the same , from reviewer to reviewer.
remnick is such a lightweight.

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