Here is Noam Chomsky, prophet in a black sweater, saying that polls show a large majority of Americans say that the Middle East should become a nuclear-free zone. American warships, Israel, everybody. But adds that these views are cast aside by the politicians. Reminds me of the fact that nukes destabilized the region once before. Recent histories of the '67 war have suggested that Nasser threatened Israel, and flew war planes by Dimona, because he feared that Israel was about to get nukes. Nobody likes it when their neighbor gets nukes…
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Create the conditions by which nukes are not needed.
Universal recognition of Israel, including by Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, would be a start.
Then with acceptance as the horse, the cart will follow.
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"Nobody likes it when their neighbor gets nukes…"
Nope. But the U.S. and Israel tend to get all pre-emptive about it. Along those lines, the ever-chauvinist JPost offers a spin on the recent shake-up of U.S. Air Force leadership that the U.S. press (I guaran-damn-tee you) will not touch with a ten-thousand-foot pole. Frankly, I'm shocked that even the scrappy Israeli press would stick they toe into these murky waters:
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US Defense Secretary Robert Gates launched the US Air Force in a new direction Monday by announcing an unusual choice as the service's next uniformed chief. Gates recommended that President Bush nominate Gen. Norton Schwartz, a Jewish 35-year veteran with a background in Air Force special operations, as the new Air Force chief of staff, replacing Gen. Michael Moseley, who has been sacked.
When the Jewish Community Centers Armed Forces and Veteran's Committee presented its Military Leadership Award to Schwartz in 2004, he said he was "Proud to be identified as Jewish as well as an American military leader."
http://tinyurl.com/66jzfk
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Now to the 64,000-shekel question. With the U.S. and Israel locked in an escalating confrontation with Iran — the Israeli minister Mofaz last Friday having described armed conflict with Iran as "unavoidable" — is it antisemitic to ask whether Schwartz can be objective? To ask whether he is a Jewish neocon?
I mean, we don't want a rerun of the Dreyfus affair or anything. But was Moseley fired for resisting the rush toward aerial intervention, and replaced by "attack Jew" Schwartz who is onboard with Olmert's proposed sound-and-light show over Tehran?
[Note that Bush is in Europe today, urging that Iranian bank assets in Europe be frozen. This is not unlike Roosevelt's policy during 1941 of isolating and starving out Japan, to provoke it into a military attack.]
For perspective, consider a hypothetical case: the U.S. is in an escalating war of words with mainland China; a Taiwanese minister describes armed conflict as "unavoidable." And in the midst of this, the U.S. fires its air force chief and replaces him with a Taiwanese-American. Would Americans be entitled to question the advisability, objectivity and timing of such a choice, without being labeled as "yellow peril" reactionaries?
If the Israel Lobby succeeds in pushing the U.S. into armed aggression against Iran, it will be a crime that — unlike their insider-cabal maneuvering to goad on the Iraq attack — they will be unable to deny. Sanctioning Iran has been the noisy headline theme of the last several AIPAC policy conferences.
Apologies for being hopelessly OT but thought some might be interested to learn that Freedom Watch is suing OPEC.
http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2008/06/09/daily22.html
Madness reigns in the land of the free!
… and the world should be full of magic, and the unicorns should come back, and then the elves, singing, dancing, spilling into the streets from the forest…
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Thank you Jim Haygood. I think you are right.
In this connection we should note that in their very supportive comment on the firings, the reliably Zionist NYTimes editorial board refers to the loose nukes incident. The latter was widely interperated as a signal from the saner minds in the military that they were rejecting Bushes orders to attack Iran. For some reason their heads did not roll right away, but now Gates has managed it.
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Lets put aside the Jewish Lobby for a minute and consider a related but even more sinister phenomenon. To wit:
The same odious thugs who are behind AIPAC are also the major financeers of the politics of the Jewish State.
This bombshell was dropped on me by the great political philosopher Schlomo Avineri, writing in the opinion section of the indispensable Haaretz. I will copy it to here. Yet again.
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Last update – 13:01 08/06/2008
Not what the Zionist forefathers had in mind
By Shlomo Avineri
Tags: Israel
Every year, intellectuals and public figures hold what seems like an endless spate of symposia on the various aspects of Israel-Diaspora relations – gatherings that touch on a number of crucial theoretical, religious, ethical, historic and political dimensions. Yet one issue that is never discussed is campaign contributions from wealthy Diaspora Jews to Israeli political candidates – be they for party primaries or the general election – as well as these donors' influence on the Israeli political system. The time has come for a serious examination of this issue.
This matter has never been a secret. Nearly every investigation into the activities of our sitting prime ministers have focused on the various methods of campaign fund-raising from foreign donors in one way or another. Even if Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is speaking the truth when he says all the cash Morris Talansky gave him was for his campaign for Jerusalem mayor and for Likud chairman, this is a practice that must stop. Over the past few weeks, Israelis have been bombarded with newspaper stories detailing how most of the country's political figures have raised enormous amounts of cash from Jews abroad. Without going into specifics and naming names, we all know that some have evaded criminal investigations by the skin of their teeth. In addition, the identities of the most generous donors and their political affiliations are known to all.
The law limits the amount of money Israeli citizens and corporations may donate to political candidates. Indeed, there is no financial law that cannot be circumvented in some creative way, yet the issue of foreign donations remains a loose end. The sums from abroad are astronomical.
The need to raise money for political campaigns, especially party primaries, is one of the key factors that has corrupted the norms of government in this country. Yet soliciting donations from abroad is a serious blow to the main principle of democracy. It usurps a significant part of the will of the sovereign – in this case, the citizens – and enables well-heeled foreigners who are not citizens to directly influence the election results.
No other democratic state in the world permits campaign funding from foreigners. It is clear that the special ties that bind Israel and Diaspora Jewry have created a unique situation. We live in a world where Jews abroad express solidarity with Israel and the Zionist enterprise by way of contributions – to the United Jewish Appeal, academic institutions, local municipalities, non-profit athletic organizations, educational programs and the like. This slippery slope eventually led to funding for political candidates, and the regrettable experiment of directly electing the prime minister only solidified the link between candidates and their foreign financial backers.
This situation must end. Israel correctly denies Diaspora Jews the right to vote, and Israelis who reside abroad cannot cast a ballot. How does one reconcile wealthy Jews – some of whom earned their fortune in ways that would best be left unexplored at the moment – using their financial muscle to determine who will be prime minister, minister or mayor?
Every piece of legislation designed to regulate or limit the scope of foreign donations is destined to fail, as was proven in the investigation into the various non-profit groups. There is only one way, extreme and drastic as it is, to put an end to this subversion of the democratic order: an absolute ban on all foreign donations, direct or indirect, whether for primaries or general elections.
The only effective sanction should be similarly drastic and simple: Anyone who violates the law will be ineligible for office. I'm not naive – this law also could be circumvented, though doing so would be much more difficult.
Israel is a Jewish state and a state of all its citizens. It serves as a rallying point for the Jews of the Diaspora. And yet, letting a group of Jewish millionaire and billionaire non-citizens use their wherewithal to interfere in Israel's political matters is intolerable, undemocratic and corrupting. None of the founding fathers of the Zionist movement could have dreamed of a Jewish state whose fate was determined by Jews in the Diaspora. It's time to seriously examine the issue, despite the opposition – self-serving and expected as it may be – of most of the country's political leadership. In the meantime, Israelis would be well-advised to demand each and every candidate declare that he does not receive foreign contributions. It is likely to be an effective step.
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Does that clarify the direction of the Jewish State for you? A little?
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Avineri is expressing himself in a very quiet and dispassionate tone, but he is quite aware that he is dropping an ideological bomb. He is violating the deepest taboo of Zionist politics. He is the first one ever to point at the 800 pound gorilla that has been lurking in the corner of the room. One may surmise that he has been led to do so only by feelings of deepest despair for the future of his country.
What is the source of the power of this taboo? He doesnt say, but I think its not hard to figure it out. The dirty secret is that the Jewish State was not the creation of its citizens, but of a group of foreigners, the rich American Jews who prevailed on Truman to get the United Nations to legitimize the Jewish State. In other words, the Jewish State is fundamentally inauthentic. Not only is its course determined by foreigners now, but it was thus from the beginning.
And now I am guessing, but I suspect that the Americans behind the creation of Israel were not, on the whole, the nicer sorts of Jews. Not people one would like to invite for dinner. More like the Meyer Lanskys, perhaps.
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I didnt mean it absolutely literally when I said that Avineri was the first to point at the gorilla. I meant that he was the first to do so from within the boundries of 'respectable opinion'. And this man is more than 'respectable'. His credentials are absolutely impeccable. If there were a Nobel Prize in Philosophy he would have at least two or three.
With such a weighty nugget of truth coming from such an unimpeachable source, I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of the Jewish State.
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I cannot understand how you can work for Buchanan, Phil. Here is a typical dose of his racism:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66701
This is a filthy, suicidal alliance on your part.
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So in US and Israel NeoImperialism has given way to NeoMeyerLanskyism. If you dont show the proper Respect to our Great White Godfather, we will bump you off of course and then drop bombs on your family.
Will they get to Avineri for having violated the code of omerta? God forbid.
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Former South Dakota Senator James Abourezk, who is of Arab background, writes:
'Like a Moslem undertaking the Hajj, the once in a lifetime trip to Mecca, or a Catholic chancing to see the Pope speak from his Vatican window, presidential candidates seemingly long to trudge to the annual AIPAC conference to pay fealty to Israel and its Lobby.
'This year we were fortunate enough to witness John McCain, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton taking turns losing their dignity before the AIPAC crowd. At one point in his parody on The Daily Show, Jon Stewart spoke of John McCain taking with him Senator Joe Lieberman on a visit to Israel, advising McCain that when you visit Israel “you don’t need to bring your own Jew.” '
http://www.counterpunch.org/abourezk06102008.html
Mwa ha ha ha … why does Stewart's quip remind me of the late Hunter S. Thompson, in 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,' bringing along his own lawyer on the four-hour ride through the desert from L.A. to Vegas? In the open-top convertible, Thompson quaffs heroic doses of peyote, vodka, and mescaline on the 100 mph trip over, preparing himself to attend a DEA convention in the Nixon era.
As Abourezk describes so well in the rest of his essay, the whole AIPAC scene is bizarre, incomprehensible, surrealistic, wacko. Definitely an event where an interloper gentile would want to bring his own Jew as a sanity check (though even the stalwart Phil looked a little taken aback by it all, on the al Jazeera panel).
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Better not FUCK with our GODFATHER, Nigger.
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Better not FUCK with our YAHWEH, Raghead.
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Technically speaking, I do not believe that Buchanan is involved in managing The American Conservative, but Phil probably knows better.
Buchanan compares Barack to Reagan. How is the article racist?
As for Easton's analysis of Avineri's complaint, together they make my case that we should really think in terms of Zionist Virtual Imperialism. The Zionist Virtual Colonial Motherland has a political economic oligarchy that consists of 4-500 hyperwealthy Zionist Jews.
This elite is served by a complex bureacratic structure consisting of Israel advocacy and Jewish communal organizations as well as think tanks, various academic institutes, and and a plethora of media organizations. A subset of this bureaucracy along with a few of the oligarchs (e.g., Martin Peretz and Bernard-Henri Levy)constitutes the highly motivated Zionist intelligentsia.
Zionist virtual imperialism is founded on the Jewish colony in Palestine, which is the keystone of the imperial structure although really only a small portion of the today's Zionist virtual imperial state.
Altogether the 4-500 oligarchs have a net wealth probably in excess of $200 billion — comparable to Israel's GDP. If a GDP is defined for the economic sector that belongs to the Zionist virtual imperial state, its size is (conservatively) probably approximately $2 trillion or about 1/6 that of the US economy.
Obviously in some sense the Zionist virtual imperial state (Jundonia) functions at a highler level of economic efficiency than the USA, and the point is rather obvious. Judonia does not have to worry about the cash burn associated with a citizenry or maintaining physical infrastructure or a standing army. It just piggybacks on real states like the USA, the UK, France, Germany etc., when necessary.
In addition to the possession of Zionist colony, a highly profitable homeland security and propaganda economic sector, and neocolonial revenue streams coming from the enforced privatization of the state assets of various nations, Judonia has rendered the USA an intimidated and dependent client state.
Careful reading of primary Zionist literature indicates that the achievements of Zionist virtual imperialism corresponds quite well to the goals of the primary Zionist ideologists of the 1880s and 1890s, who had no interest in emigrating themselves but believes that Jewish intellectuals merited far more wealth, far higher status and far more power than they possessed in the Eastern European context.
I discuss the political structure of Zionist domination in http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc199522865 .
I discuss the development of Judonia in http://members.aol.com/ThorsProvoni/JudoniaComplete/JudoniaCompleteA.htm#_Toc199522884 .
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Better not FUCK with our FREEDOM, Osama.
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Have to love the Phil Weiss fan base. How many times have I read here that Jews don't serve in the armed forces. Now here is an Air Force general who reaches the top. but somehow this was all engineered by the LOBBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and is some sort of threat. Enlighten me has to the logic.
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Get your FUCKING IDOLS out of HIS HOLY TEMPLE, you Devils.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP about ISRAEL, you SelfHating Traitors.
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There is nothing wrong with writing for the American Conservative. If they are interested in Phil's views then more power to them.
There are serious problems with American foreign policy and our addiction to war. The left by itself is too weak to change that. It will require a truly bipartisan effort.
A Very Short History of Western Civilization
ProtoMeyerLanskyism
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NeoMeyerLanskyism
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OK I give up. You're on your own.
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'If a GDP is defined for the economic sector that belongs to the Zionist virtual imperial state…' What does this mean?
Paul, get back on the medication. You've really lost it.
I am trying to identify an an economy that belongs to the Zionist Virtual Imperial State.
If the concept is valid, I should be able to calculate a GDP so to speak.
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Get away from my FUCKING DAUGHTER you PERVERTED MOTHERFUCKER.
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What does it mean to own an 'economy' that is bigger than their net worth?
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Get your FUCKING IDOLS out of the temple of FUCKING YAHWEH you FUCKING INFIDELS
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Keep your FUCKING HANDS out of the FUCKING PANTS of our LITTLE FUCKING CHILDREN you FUCKING SATANISTS
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Paul Easton, evidently a big Phil Weiss fan
It means
1. that they are able to create product (earnings, or value) from assets they do not own or own fully or
2. that they own partially or fully assets to produce product which is sold to generate revenue to produce more product. (The total value of the product within a given year could easily exceed the asset value of the plant.)
There are other ways that the value of product in a given year can be greater than the value of assets owned.
I think I can summarize in this case that economic size of Judonia (and therefore its influence) is far larger than the total value of assets held by the principle oligarchs and organizations within Judonia, whose assets I did not count in the original $200 billion calculation.
In general I have found that calculating the GDP for the virtual state is different from calculating that for the USA, and I am still thinking about the right way to discuss the economic "weight" of a virtual state like Judonia vis a vis a real state like the USA.
Holocaust victims need nukes.
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Especially those 'Holocaust victims' that emigrated to Israel from Argentina or Yemen after WW II. For beginners: Germany didn't have any concentration camps for Jews in Argentina or Yemen during WW II. My point is: The majority of today's Israelis are not WW II Hitler-refugees and their decendants.
But still, Germany supplied Israel with state of the art 1 billion Euros submarines that were custom made to be outfitted by Israel with atomic warheads.
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GET THE FUCK OUT of OUR FUCKING HOLY LAND you FUCKING SAND-NIGGERS.
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Phil, you didn't okay a comment of mine on anti-Zionism the other day that was at least relevant, but you're tolerating the 10+ spam comments from this Paul Easton troll?
i dont think no one oks nothing neo. it comes right back and it is there.
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hows tricks neo?
you know, i begin to see that matrix thing might make more sense than i thot, in a way.
its not that it is an illusion in the physical sense. but in the functional sense there is ultimately nothing to sustain it, and it persists only because of cognative inertia.
it is like wily fox after he walks off the
cliff. he has not noticed yet so he does not know that he is falling, until he looks down and sees the void.
and so this world so glorious and new has already begun to crumble into the air, into thin air. but hardly anyone can grasp that yet. they see indeed, but they do not percieve. would that isaiah could be present at this day.
so whats next, neo?
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very interesting. but what does this mean:
'Zionist virtual imperialism is founded on the Jewish colony in Palestine, which is the keystone of the imperial structure'
do you mean they actually own the place? are many of the oligarchs actually israelis?
but it is not much of a place, in any case, with about half the per capita gnp of the first world nations, and about 5% of the population of the us. how could it be a keystone? yes it is the keystone of the judonic ideological superstructure, but of the economy?
anyhow, thanks for boiling it down for us. i hope you will do some more of that.
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"very interesting. but what does this mean."
It means Judonia has a foot in the nation-state framework, which is not virtual, but made of laws and institutions. It can operate inside and outside this framework. Equally important it has a place to develop the nuclear and biological deterrence it will need to stay afloat.
Martillo is Morpheus.
quite so. and paul is santa barbera and phil is jesus. but where the fuck is mohammed???
"do you mean they actually own the place? are many of the oligarchs actually israelis?"
Political decisions of the Israeli government are subordinate to those of the international Zionist Jewish oligarchs, when the oligarchs are in agreement — the situation has been true since the Balfour Declaration.
The international oligarchs have owned the lion's share of the Israeli private sector since the Ottoman period, and a large part of the state-owned Israeli economic sector has passed into private (i.e., oligarch hands since Simcha Ehrlich reigned as economic czar).
Very few of oligarchs are Israeli. One could so identify Haim Saban, but he was born in Egypt.
The Israeli-born oligarchs typically belong to the tourism sector (no surprise there! — and it is something I consider wholly stolen from Palestinians) or to the homeland security sector. These Israelis, who are now members of the 500, all live in the US or the UK as far as I know, but I am looking for funding in part because I want to establish the truth on the subject to the best of my ability.
See http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/05/israel-lobby-and-american-society.html or http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/05/fight-judonia-now-or-never.html .
Keating, your patron saint is wandering in mondoweiss causing calamitous spamm to sprout everywhere. Should we martyrize her a second time?
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