Comments on: Will Stephen J. Sniegoski’s Dissection of the Neocons Get ‘Boycotted’?

By: Oarwell

Oarwell — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Don't diss my man Glenn Greenwald. He is doing an ENORMOUS service to this country with his writing, dissecting with clinical precision the hypocrisies, mendacity, and cognitive dissonances of our media and political elites. If he chooses to hold fire on a topic that you, Phil, have decided to (bravely) subspecialize in, it might be a matter of strategy winning out over tactical considerations. Better for us all that he sticks to constitutional issues. His work on Telcom amnesty has been nothing short of phenomenal, and was in part (I think) translated into yesterday's NYT editorial, 'Bush vs. the Bill of Rights.'

Don't be jealous. Applaud this mensch.

(Disclaimer: I haven't read 'Tragic Legacy,' but admit that when I first saw the "good vs. evil" subtitle I thought it a tad overwrought in its assumption that Manicheanism is what made the Bush executive so odious. The "us v. them, smoke 'em out" simple-mindedness of the Bushoids always struck me as simply part of the propaganda drill, the routine demonizing of "the other" that takes place prior to the bloodletting.)

I agree with Raimondo's statements yesterday about Russert (highlighting the process where the White House leaked bullshit intel to Judy Miller and Michael Gordon, then Cheney goes on Russert's show and says golly it's in the NYT, and Russert the GE courtesan prompts him ("aluminum tubes, my master?")), but hey, we read it first in Greenwald's blog.

By: MRW

MRW — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Thanks for the book recommendation.

By: Lyndsey

Lyndsey — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

"boycotted... by the Jewish establishment" in the U.S. Amazing, true. And it took an Israeli to understand this. I feel that Sniegoski will face the same boycott...."

Then the issue is two fold, it isn't just what the Israel lobby did in the Middle East, but what the Jewish lobby is doing in the West. It just can't go on.

By: Kraut

Kraut — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I am 100% with you Oarwell, it's all about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour

Glenn does a good job, in looking into the standard "good vs. evil" meme. And, Phil, he watches the whole story via the prism he is trained for: law.

And whoever you are that don't want "us" Germans comment here, I spare you the latest complications of the German Axis of the Gord frontman with the headline: In doubt against freedom = Im Zweifel gegen die Freiheit.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

"I wonder whether Sniegoski will get on "Fresh Air," with Terry Gross, or on any NPR show. I feel that his last name will hurt him. There is prejudice against people who Jews believe are Polish."

This reminds of a comment Paul Gottfried made on a Takimag string today: “The larger problem is that the neocons, save for their gentile hangers-on who are merely contemptible, would be ideological nutcases with a wide range of hostilities even if Israel never existed. They seem to fall into rage syndrome as soon as Germans, Russians, or the burden of Southern history become discussion themes.”

I used to put Neocons/Jabotinskians into the religious nationalist category until I had a fairly long chat with Harvard Professor Herb Kelman about Jabotinsky and then went back to read Jabotinsky in the original.

Neocons/Jabotinskians are ethnic fundamentalists (see The Nazi Conscience by Koonz) and they are part of the intelligentsia (i.e., mobilized intellectuals) of the Zionist Virtual Colonial Motherland, which runs a full-blown imperial system, within which the USA is a dependant and intimidated client state.

Of course, "Israel is not the be-all and end-all of their vision of foreign affairs, Sniegoski says in fairness," but State of Israel is the keystone of the system, whose raison d'etre is increasing the wealth, status, and power of the Jewish political economic oligarchy and of its intelligentsia.

By: syvanen

syvanen — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I agree with the comments about Glenn Greenwald. Just because he has not picked up THAT hot potato is not a criticism. He has done so much more, he deserves a little slack on this issue.

By: peters

peters — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

i am unaware of anyone complaining about germans posting. however i did post " what is with the germans? does anyone know?" the german posts are generally sort of mystifying to me, including the one above by kraut. i don't know if it is a language problem or i am out of the loop.
also i am not sure if i have detected a trend among the german posters of being apologists for israel. since it is hard to understand the language i may have that wrong. i thought it was sort of a fascinating issue. is there some sort of conditioning going on over there? i thought one of the genuises here had some information.
i also want to distinguish myself from peter who posts here. we seem to be quite different.