Comments on: The Magical Mearsheimer Tour Is Coming to Take You Away http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 01:16:47 +0000 hourly 1 By: jonathan ekman http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57956 jonathan ekman Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57956 <p>YNET's piece on the lecture at Hebrew<br /> University implied that most of the audience<br /> was at least somewhat hostile, but at least<br /> someone had the courage to invite them.</p> YNET's piece on the lecture at Hebrew
University implied that most of the audience
was at least somewhat hostile, but at least
someone had the courage to invite them.

]]> By: Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57957 Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57957 <p>Jerusalem Post June 12, 2008</p> <p>"I would certainly prefer that people not call me an anti-Semite," Mearsheimer said in a phone interview with The Jerusalem Post as he and Walt were being driven from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv. </p> <p>"But it doesn't bother me, because I know unequivocally I am not an anti-Semite, nor is Steve [Walt]. In fact we are both philo-Semites and we both think it is a wonderful thing there is a State of Israel, and we are not in any way shape or form trying to delegitimize Israel." <br /> _____________</p> <p>- "We are not in any way trying to delegitimize Israel." <br /> Is that a correct and honest statement?</p> <p>In their original article in the LRB they said that Israel's citizenship law contradicts "core American values". I consider this a correct statement that legitimately delegitimizes Israel.</p> <p>One can be a philo-Semite or believing Jew and still deligitimize Israel - there is nothing inherently contradictory to that. </p> Jerusalem Post June 12, 2008

"I would certainly prefer that people not call me an anti-Semite," Mearsheimer said in a phone interview with The Jerusalem Post as he and Walt were being driven from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv.

"But it doesn't bother me, because I know unequivocally I am not an anti-Semite, nor is Steve [Walt]. In fact we are both philo-Semites and we both think it is a wonderful thing there is a State of Israel, and we are not in any way shape or form trying to delegitimize Israel."
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- "We are not in any way trying to delegitimize Israel."
Is that a correct and honest statement?

In their original article in the LRB they said that Israel's citizenship law contradicts "core American values". I consider this a correct statement that legitimately delegitimizes Israel.

One can be a philo-Semite or believing Jew and still deligitimize Israel – there is nothing inherently contradictory to that.

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57958 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57958 <p>.</p> <p>It's a credit to Israel that M&W are able to visit the country and make public appearances.</p> <p>Americans conceive of the U.S. as an open-debate, free-speech country. But the suppression of free speech is often invisible. Fulbright grants are being cancelled for Palestinian students -- some of them simply can't get out of Gaza. In other cases, ICE arbitrarily denies visas to foreigners who have criticized US policies. Or seizes foreign visitors at the airport and sends them straight home (as in the expulsion of Cat Stevens / Yusuf Islam).</p> <p>It's sad when Americans have to look up to Israel as an examplar of free speech. But it's probably true; surely true when it comes to discussions of zionism and the influence of the Lobby.</p> .

It's a credit to Israel that M&W are able to visit the country and make public appearances.

Americans conceive of the U.S. as an open-debate, free-speech country. But the suppression of free speech is often invisible. Fulbright grants are being cancelled for Palestinian students — some of them simply can't get out of Gaza. In other cases, ICE arbitrarily denies visas to foreigners who have criticized US policies. Or seizes foreign visitors at the airport and sends them straight home (as in the expulsion of Cat Stevens / Yusuf Islam).

It's sad when Americans have to look up to Israel as an examplar of free speech. But it's probably true; surely true when it comes to discussions of zionism and the influence of the Lobby.

]]> By: Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57959 Klaus Bloemker, Frankfurt Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57959 <p>"It's a credit to Israel that M&W are able to visit the country and make public appearances."<br /> __________________</p> <p>Yes, that's true.</p> <p>But still, it's as if a couple of free-market Americans had came to Soviet Russia claiming they were philo-Soviets.</p> <p>To Israel's credit, it isn't the Soviet Union. </p> "It's a credit to Israel that M&W are able to visit the country and make public appearances."
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Yes, that's true.

But still, it's as if a couple of free-market Americans had came to Soviet Russia claiming they were philo-Soviets.

To Israel's credit, it isn't the Soviet Union.

]]> By: Paul Easton http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57960 Paul Easton Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57960 <p>.<br /> ~Klas~ asked us yesterday 'What do you think about what Commentary Magazine has written about Rachel Corries book? 'The (Self-)Deceit of Rachel Corrie''</p> <p>thanks for asking Klas.</p> <p>i think that yahweh has banished the souls of the idolitors from hisher presence, casting them into the outer darkness, and thereby rendered them mad, like unto crazed hyenas.</p> .
~Klas~ asked us yesterday 'What do you think about what Commentary Magazine has written about Rachel Corries book? 'The (Self-)Deceit of Rachel Corrie''

thanks for asking Klas.

i think that yahweh has banished the souls of the idolitors from hisher presence, casting them into the outer darkness, and thereby rendered them mad, like unto crazed hyenas.

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57961 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57961 <p>what is it with the germans? anybody know?</p> what is it with the germans? anybody know?

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57962 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57962 <p>what is it with the germans? anybody know?</p> what is it with the germans? anybody know?

]]> By: Charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57963 Charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57963 <p>What is it with the Americans, who attacked Iraq with majority opinion and majority congress, executive branch, and press, all beating the war drums? At least the majority of Germans did not. <br /> On the other hand, looks like now their current government is doing what it can to help Bush isolate Iran (Like France), as Roosevelt did to isolate Imperial Japan... One step forward, Germans, two steps back? </p> What is it with the Americans, who attacked Iraq with majority opinion and majority congress, executive branch, and press, all beating the war drums? At least the majority of Germans did not.
On the other hand, looks like now their current government is doing what it can to help Bush isolate Iran (Like France), as Roosevelt did to isolate Imperial Japan… One step forward, Germans, two steps back?

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57964 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57964 <p>.</p> <p>peters -- consult Charles Mackay, 'Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Krauts'</p> <p>http://tinyurl.com/6yx355</p> .

peters — consult Charles Mackay, 'Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Krauts'

http://tinyurl.com/6yx355

]]> By: Paul Easton http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html/comment-page-1#comment-57965 Paul Easton Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/14/todays-one-day-i-feel-blessed-to-be-a-jew-living-right-now-in-jewish-and-world-history-because-wow-is-there-a-lot-going-on.html#comment-57965 <p>.<br /> listen ~martillo~. since you are intrested in the origins of things, how about this idea. that the judonian conspiracy goes all the way back to the priests of the temple in jerusalam, in concert with their allies the zealots, who were also gangster thugs who hid their apostasy behind a mask of godliness, entirely similar to the zionists of today. </p> .
listen ~martillo~. since you are intrested in the origins of things, how about this idea. that the judonian conspiracy goes all the way back to the priests of the temple in jerusalam, in concert with their allies the zealots, who were also gangster thugs who hid their apostasy behind a mask of godliness, entirely similar to the zionists of today.

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