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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
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		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Norm rocks!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The histrionics directed at Dr. Finkelstein have always been an attempt at misdirection. Otherwise, they would actually address the issues he raises.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;——-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ M.K. Gandhi&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm rocks!</p>
<p>The histrionics directed at Dr. Finkelstein have always been an attempt at misdirection. Otherwise, they would actually address the issues he raises.</p>
<p>——-</p>
<p>First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ M.K. Gandhi</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Norman Finkelstein&#039;s disagreement with the W&amp;M thesis &lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/02/finkelstein-antisemitic-stereotypes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;pilpul&lt;/i&gt; or quodlibet for the Roman Catholics among us&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Norman Finkelstein&#39;s disagreement with the W&amp;M thesis <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/02/finkelstein-antisemitic-stereotypes.html" rel="nofollow"><i>pilpul</i> or quodlibet for the Roman Catholics among us</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One characteristic I’ve noticed about many diaspora Jews is their proclivity towards throwing one another under the bus when things get stressful. It must be a function of their innate ruthlessness, but they will quickly turn on their own.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is one reason I support the existence of Israel (but not the supremacist political ideology of Zionism): it forces them to stand shoulder to shoulder, as a chain, and account for themselves and each other as adults. Essentially, it forces them to grow up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problems is the perpetually stunted diaspora Jewish Zionists who, as always, want it all. They want Israel, but they don’t want to live there; they want America to wage wars against Israel’s enemies, but they don’t want to do the fighting themselves; they want the American taxpayer to underwrite Israel to the tune of billions, but they don’t want to part with their own fortunes to support it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jewish Zionists should either emigrate to Israel, or cease being Zionists. Their childish duel-identity must come to an end. If this was done, American underwriting, enabling and goading of Israel towards its own (murderously) immature behavior would also cease. And those Jews that stayed would have to start taking accountability for ALL of their own fellow Americans instead of existing in this stunted kind of no man&#039;s land of conflicted and divided loyalties.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One characteristic I’ve noticed about many diaspora Jews is their proclivity towards throwing one another under the bus when things get stressful. It must be a function of their innate ruthlessness, but they will quickly turn on their own.</p>
<p>This is one reason I support the existence of Israel (but not the supremacist political ideology of Zionism): it forces them to stand shoulder to shoulder, as a chain, and account for themselves and each other as adults. Essentially, it forces them to grow up.</p>
<p>The problems is the perpetually stunted diaspora Jewish Zionists who, as always, want it all. They want Israel, but they don’t want to live there; they want America to wage wars against Israel’s enemies, but they don’t want to do the fighting themselves; they want the American taxpayer to underwrite Israel to the tune of billions, but they don’t want to part with their own fortunes to support it.</p>
<p>Jewish Zionists should either emigrate to Israel, or cease being Zionists. Their childish duel-identity must come to an end. If this was done, American underwriting, enabling and goading of Israel towards its own (murderously) immature behavior would also cease. And those Jews that stayed would have to start taking accountability for ALL of their own fellow Americans instead of existing in this stunted kind of no man&#39;s land of conflicted and divided loyalties.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;______________________________________________________&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;O Let the Mainstream Media Shine Its Everlasting Light on Me!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>______________________________________________________</p>
<p>&quot;O Let the Mainstream Media Shine Its Everlasting Light on Me!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wrote &quot;grin&quot; in between carets and it didn&#039;t take.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote &quot;grin&quot; in between carets and it didn&#39;t take.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jimmy Carter says no politician can openly defy Israel and still get elected.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBuua8z_jFc&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy Carter says no politician can openly defy Israel and still get elected.</p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBuua8z_jFc</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What trash Stewart Ain wrote.  Just stupid &amp; petty &amp; so typical of provincial American Jewish journalism.  And to think that he actually had the balls to ask Finkelstein whether his mother was a kapo.  A vile accusation first raised by that filth, Dershowitz.  If I were Ain&#039;s editor I&#039;d chastise him severely.  But I&#039;ll bet Gary Rosenblatt told Ain to ask the question.  How sad.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Larry Cohler Esses is the only reporter for that paper who could&#039;ve done that interview justice.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What trash Stewart Ain wrote.  Just stupid &amp; petty &amp; so typical of provincial American Jewish journalism.  And to think that he actually had the balls to ask Finkelstein whether his mother was a kapo.  A vile accusation first raised by that filth, Dershowitz.  If I were Ain&#39;s editor I&#39;d chastise him severely.  But I&#39;ll bet Gary Rosenblatt told Ain to ask the question.  How sad.</p>
<p>Larry Cohler Esses is the only reporter for that paper who could&#39;ve done that interview justice.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;whose tone is often too stridently moralistic for me&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s probably what attracts me, Phil. It seems from very opposite camps our mothers taught us similar lessons. Must have drawn similar conclusions from our past???&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know, I shouldn&#039;t compare them, but then.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;********************************************&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What puzzles me most, is that he is tainted via his reception on the right up to the point of being called a Neo-Nazi. Kept me from touching his books. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But at the same time the main propaganda assault is against the left as being the &quot;real&quot; successor of the Nazis, and I think here Norman is &quot;the&quot; central figure.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;******************************************&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said: From a German point of view Zionism is very, very understandable. It didn&#039;t start with the Nazis. Both in Austria and here there were other parties that played with antisemitism, long before the Nazis. ... There doesn&#039;t seem to be much awareness over in the US about these facts.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;whose tone is often too stridently moralistic for me&quot;</p>
<p>That&#39;s probably what attracts me, Phil. It seems from very opposite camps our mothers taught us similar lessons. Must have drawn similar conclusions from our past???</p>
<p>I know, I shouldn&#39;t compare them, but then.</p>
<p>********************************************</p>
<p>What puzzles me most, is that he is tainted via his reception on the right up to the point of being called a Neo-Nazi. Kept me from touching his books. </p>
<p>But at the same time the main propaganda assault is against the left as being the &quot;real&quot; successor of the Nazis, and I think here Norman is &quot;the&quot; central figure.</p>
<p>******************************************</p>
<p>That said: From a German point of view Zionism is very, very understandable. It didn&#39;t start with the Nazis. Both in Austria and here there were other parties that played with antisemitism, long before the Nazis. &#8230; There doesn&#39;t seem to be much awareness over in the US about these facts.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;... His thesis sought to expose as a shoddy piece of research Joan Peters’ best-selling book, “From Time Immemorial,”&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I suspect this is a mistake that is repeated over and over again. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway the title of his thesis is:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Bibliography&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the Jewish Question to the Jewish State: An Essay on the Theory of Zionism&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He returns to the subject of his thesis in: &quot;Image and Reality&quot;, as the title suggests (I haven&#039;t read it yet). In his thesis he studies the &quot;theory&quot; of Zionism only. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Admittedly I wonder about the &quot;mistake&quot; concerning his thesis in the Israeli database (follow link in bibliography). The obvious mistake would have made it 123 pages instead of 213.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Bibliography&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Norman_Finkelstein#thesis_-_Time_Immorial&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230; His thesis sought to expose as a shoddy piece of research Joan Peters’ best-selling book, “From Time Immemorial,”&quot;</p>
<p>I suspect this is a mistake that is repeated over and over again. </p>
<p>Anyway the title of his thesis is:</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Bibliography</p>
<p>From the Jewish Question to the Jewish State: An Essay on the Theory of Zionism</p>
<p>He returns to the subject of his thesis in: &quot;Image and Reality&quot;, as the title suggests (I haven&#39;t read it yet). In his thesis he studies the &quot;theory&quot; of Zionism only. </p>
<p>Admittedly I wonder about the &quot;mistake&quot; concerning his thesis in the Israeli database (follow link in bibliography). The obvious mistake would have made it 123 pages instead of 213.</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Bibliography</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Norman_Finkelstein#thesis_-_Time_Immorial</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The verse from &#039;Midnight Special&#039; is usually rendered as &quot;ever-loving&quot; light ... though Wikipedia cites an alternate reading of &quot;ever-living&quot; light.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Special_%28song%29&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>The verse from &#39;Midnight Special&#39; is usually rendered as &quot;ever-loving&quot; light &#8230; though Wikipedia cites an alternate reading of &quot;ever-living&quot; light.</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Special_%28song%29</p>
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