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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;One Must Be a Jew to Tell the Goyim How To Talk About Israel&#8217;&#8211;WSJ Editor</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is significance to what Phil calls &quot;exceptionalism&quot;. It is a jewel of Jewish identity, to acknowledge responsibility for the world, and of the collective commitment of that responsibility.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is NOT something to be renounced, but something to more and more enthusiastically endorsed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is NOT a value that conotes elitism in the slightest, in fact the oppossite. To the extent that it is NOT adopted by Jews, instead regarding the association rather than the responsibility as primary (or only thing known), is the mistake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, asking &quot;Is it good for the Jews?&quot; is also an EXCELLENT question, a question that should be asked by every Jew that comments on events that affect individual Jews, or Jews as a community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, the inference is that by asking &quot;is it good for Jews?&quot; that that implies &quot;fuck others&quot;, which is NOT the norm of Jewish deliberation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Phil sometimes demonstrates a fear of offending Goyim, analagous to the invocation of fear of offending Jews that he condemns.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I sense an inner dialog with his parents nearly constantly, and with imaginations of his wife&#039;s parents.&lt;/p&gt;

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It is right to dialog about family issues within the family.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is insensitive or much worse, to address intra-family concerns in public. Phil willingly occassionally condemns his parents&#039; worldview, as example.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its a wrong. They are not here to clarify, to confirm or revise. They are not hear to illuminate how their experience plays in the world.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is significance to what Phil calls &quot;exceptionalism&quot;. It is a jewel of Jewish identity, to acknowledge responsibility for the world, and of the collective commitment of that responsibility.</p>
<p>It is NOT something to be renounced, but something to more and more enthusiastically endorsed.</p>
<p>It is NOT a value that conotes elitism in the slightest, in fact the oppossite. To the extent that it is NOT adopted by Jews, instead regarding the association rather than the responsibility as primary (or only thing known), is the mistake.</p>
<p>Also, asking &quot;Is it good for the Jews?&quot; is also an EXCELLENT question, a question that should be asked by every Jew that comments on events that affect individual Jews, or Jews as a community.</p>
<p>Again, the inference is that by asking &quot;is it good for Jews?&quot; that that implies &quot;fuck others&quot;, which is NOT the norm of Jewish deliberation.</p>
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Phil sometimes demonstrates a fear of offending Goyim, analagous to the invocation of fear of offending Jews that he condemns.</p>
<p>I sense an inner dialog with his parents nearly constantly, and with imaginations of his wife&#39;s parents.</p>
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It is right to dialog about family issues within the family.</p>
<p>It is insensitive or much worse, to address intra-family concerns in public. Phil willingly occassionally condemns his parents&#39; worldview, as example.</p>
<p>Its a wrong. They are not here to clarify, to confirm or revise. They are not hear to illuminate how their experience plays in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil Weiss wrote: &#039;reforming Jewish identity means challenging 1, Jewish parochialism--Is it good for the Jews?--and 2, Jewish exceptionalism--&quot;We have a special role, we care about justice and healing the world&quot; &#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This starts going to Jewish religious tenets and indoctrination that informs Jewish character and communal atmosphere -- ie Tikkun Olam (heal the world, repair the world) or the concept of “choseness.” Good for Phil, because one can’t address the problem of Jewish Zionism and the larger problem of Jewish contemptuous and usurious treatment of non-Jews without addressing Jewish religious tenets and delusions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because Jews existed as a tiny minority in a diaspora for millennia, Judaism evolved sophisticated and complex control mechanisms to keep Jews in the fold. This involved racial and social indoctrination, but it also needed a good P.R. cover to keep the more idealistic young from rejecting the Jews as just another tribe of parochial bigots, and to point non-Jews towards as a red-herring. Hence it came up with phony feel-good concepts like Tikkun Olam that ostensibly “proved” Jews were a more moral, enlightened and evolved people, (and were on a sacred mission) but it’s all illusion and spin, as demonstrated by the facts on the ground that anyone with even one eye open can plainly see by observing collective Jewish behavior and its manifestations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That’s another highly evolved characteristic of organized Jewry: the ability to lie to itself and everyone else with a strait face. It’s also characteristic of functioning sociopaths.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Weiss wrote: &#39;reforming Jewish identity means challenging 1, Jewish parochialism&#8211;Is it good for the Jews?&#8211;and 2, Jewish exceptionalism&#8211;&quot;We have a special role, we care about justice and healing the world&quot; &#39;</p>
<p>This starts going to Jewish religious tenets and indoctrination that informs Jewish character and communal atmosphere &#8212; ie Tikkun Olam (heal the world, repair the world) or the concept of “choseness.” Good for Phil, because one can’t address the problem of Jewish Zionism and the larger problem of Jewish contemptuous and usurious treatment of non-Jews without addressing Jewish religious tenets and delusions.</p>
<p>Because Jews existed as a tiny minority in a diaspora for millennia, Judaism evolved sophisticated and complex control mechanisms to keep Jews in the fold. This involved racial and social indoctrination, but it also needed a good P.R. cover to keep the more idealistic young from rejecting the Jews as just another tribe of parochial bigots, and to point non-Jews towards as a red-herring. Hence it came up with phony feel-good concepts like Tikkun Olam that ostensibly “proved” Jews were a more moral, enlightened and evolved people, (and were on a sacred mission) but it’s all illusion and spin, as demonstrated by the facts on the ground that anyone with even one eye open can plainly see by observing collective Jewish behavior and its manifestations.</p>
<p>That’s another highly evolved characteristic of organized Jewry: the ability to lie to itself and everyone else with a strait face. It’s also characteristic of functioning sociopaths.</p>
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		<title>By: tomwhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomwhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fascinated by this track. Extraordinary how&quot;religion&quot; has returned as basic fact of life after a few centuries of  being of &quot;no account.&quot; Jews must declare Jewishness in order to speak of Jewish issues, as the wsj guy claims? But how about Christians, of which I am one? No rights in re Jewish issues? Not bloody likely. We are joined at the hip, willy nilly. High time Christians let fly on &quot;Jewish issues&quot; altho we mostly won&#039;t out of ghastly, misplaced politesse and, of course, money fear. This is my first post. Thou shalt hear herald more (I daresay). tomwhite&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinated by this track. Extraordinary how&quot;religion&quot; has returned as basic fact of life after a few centuries of  being of &quot;no account.&quot; Jews must declare Jewishness in order to speak of Jewish issues, as the wsj guy claims? But how about Christians, of which I am one? No rights in re Jewish issues? Not bloody likely. We are joined at the hip, willy nilly. High time Christians let fly on &quot;Jewish issues&quot; altho we mostly won&#39;t out of ghastly, misplaced politesse and, of course, money fear. This is my first post. Thou shalt hear herald more (I daresay). tomwhite</p>
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		<title>By: charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every American must always ask, &quot;Is it good for the Jews?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
This means, the Jews all over the world. And always let the self-identified Jews decide. Not only who is a Jew, but what&#039;s in their best interest. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The analogy is: &quot;Is it in the best interest of the child?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a policy rule imbedded in USA current law. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It means, you never have to grow up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It means, others will pay for your ego and life style.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is emotional, fiscal, monetary, and intellectual slavery.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is the Sermon On The Mount written only for Jews.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How many gentiles have died for it to date? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gentiles don&#039;t matter. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s the whole point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;USA, Awake!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every American must always ask, &quot;Is it good for the Jews?&quot;<br />
This means, the Jews all over the world. And always let the self-identified Jews decide. Not only who is a Jew, but what&#39;s in their best interest. </p>
<p>The analogy is: &quot;Is it in the best interest of the child?&quot;</p>
<p>It&#39;s a policy rule imbedded in USA current law. </p>
<p>It means, you never have to grow up.</p>
<p>It means, others will pay for your ego and life style.</p>
<p>It is emotional, fiscal, monetary, and intellectual slavery.</p>
<p>It is the Sermon On The Mount written only for Jews.</p>
<p>How many gentiles have died for it to date? </p>
<p>Gentiles don&#39;t matter. </p>
<p>That&#39;s the whole point.</p>
<p>USA, Awake!</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Science fiction and literature in general show evidence of a similar Gramscian hegemony over discourse: &lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/07/learning-to-love-zionist-imperialism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Learning to Love Zionist Imperialism&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science fiction and literature in general show evidence of a similar Gramscian hegemony over discourse: <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/07/learning-to-love-zionist-imperialism.html" rel="nofollow">Learning to Love Zionist Imperialism</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sword of gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sword of gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Love the Nazi slogan Keating, very subtle. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the Nazi slogan Keating, very subtle. </p>
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		<title>By: Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did Stephens really use the derogatory term, goyim, (“One must be at least a Jew to tell the goyim how they may or may not talk about Israel.”) in his response? If so, why was he not fired immediately from the WSJ, given that, regardless of how many Jews work in finance, the majority of its readers are still &quot;goyim&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are the goyim that beaten down that they don&#039;t even object to such slurs?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish I could find the original letter to see if he really did use that term. Somehow, I can&#039;t believe that he would be published, even in the JPost. (The letter Phil linked to is incomplete). Anyone know how to find a version of the complete original?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Stephens really use the derogatory term, goyim, (“One must be at least a Jew to tell the goyim how they may or may not talk about Israel.”) in his response? If so, why was he not fired immediately from the WSJ, given that, regardless of how many Jews work in finance, the majority of its readers are still &quot;goyim&quot;?</p>
<p>Are the goyim that beaten down that they don&#39;t even object to such slurs?</p>
<p>I wish I could find the original letter to see if he really did use that term. Somehow, I can&#39;t believe that he would be published, even in the JPost. (The letter Phil linked to is incomplete). Anyone know how to find a version of the complete original?</p>
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		<title>By: morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>morris</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ ED (a commenter above)&lt;br /&gt;
Didn&#039;t ED say it perfectly!&lt;br /&gt;
Absolutely as it is.&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s probably paid in pain for the insight.&lt;br /&gt;
And yes Phil raised the right issues.&lt;br /&gt;
The elders must be watching the errant! Thinking of tricks to keep everyone in the fold.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ED (a commenter above)<br />
Didn&#39;t ED say it perfectly!<br />
Absolutely as it is.<br />
He&#39;s probably paid in pain for the insight.<br />
And yes Phil raised the right issues.<br />
The elders must be watching the errant! Thinking of tricks to keep everyone in the fold.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;talk heard on various sitcoms and the local street:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;i am spanish. are you? no. i am jewish. i am italian. are you? no. i am jewish. i am dutch. are you? no. i am jewish. i am an american. are you? no. i am jewish.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;heard on miami talk radio wiod:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;those dirty, filthy, murdering, lying arabs&quot;. the speaker was a little old jewish lady transplanted from ny. the host(jewish) told her to calm herself so to not trouble her old heart. the next caller, a young, jamaican woman tried to make a comment that maybe the palestinians have some amount of rights. the host cut her off and said that &quot;antisemitism is alive and well.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk heard on various sitcoms and the local street:</p>
<p>&quot;i am spanish. are you? no. i am jewish. i am italian. are you? no. i am jewish. i am dutch. are you? no. i am jewish. i am an american. are you? no. i am jewish.&quot; </p>
<p>heard on miami talk radio wiod:</p>
<p>&quot;those dirty, filthy, murdering, lying arabs&quot;. the speaker was a little old jewish lady transplanted from ny. the host(jewish) told her to calm herself so to not trouble her old heart. the next caller, a young, jamaican woman tried to make a comment that maybe the palestinians have some amount of rights. the host cut her off and said that &quot;antisemitism is alive and well.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wiod might&#039;ve been larry &quot;totally pointless&quot; king&#039;s station when he was a radio talker.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wiod might&#39;ve been larry &quot;totally pointless&quot; king&#39;s station when he was a radio talker.</p>
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