Comments on: U.S. Occupation of Iraq Makes Israeli Occupation Look, er, Undemocratic

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1004143.html

By: wnt4

wnt4 — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

"the surge has worked so far"

Worked how? Violence (civilian casualties) are still worse than in 2005, and nobody was crowing victory then.

More importantly, why should any intelligent, humane person WANT the USA to 'win' in Iraq? By any rational reading of events (we lied about Saddam's weapons and invaded, for reasons still unclear, though hotly debated - Weiss has argued that Jewish society in the United States bears a particular responsibility), we're the bad guys there. A US victory would just encourage the bad guys.

"the U.S. is bent on making democracy work in Baghdad. What can the Israelis say for their occupation of 41 years?"

Israel's position seems to me more defensible than the USA's - at least they live next door to the people they're brutalizing, which puts them squarely in the company of Russia and China. The US stands alone in the world's absolute worst humanitarian disaster, which it deliberately stepped into by invading a country thousands of miles away. In contrast, there was never a singular Israeli decision to make war against the Arabs without provocation - Israel has become part of a cycle of violence and retaliation. Further, death tolls from Israel's brutality are several orders of magnitude less than Iraq's accepted body count - so far.

"The U.S. is bent on making democracy work in Baghdad"

Nothing says democracy like the occupying army ignoring the people and government's demands that it should leave.

By: morris

morris — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

The dog and the tail, have committed equal barbarity consistently, as bad as as the worst the world has ever seen.Their has been parallels in logistical approaches, eg. walling in nieghbourhoods.Breaking Geneva conventions.Abu Gharibs (according to the UN) still going on on Ships in the Indian ocean.If anyone feels otherwise they have no right to say anything bad about WWII.And the dog and the tail are the same animal, many are so proud to be jewish.

By: saifedean

saifedean — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I can't wait till Richard Witty logs on to tell us that he once knew an orphan who twisted an ankle, and that the Palestinians should therefor stop their anti-Semitic insistence that Israelis don't set up a racist state.

God, I tried to mock Witty's callous indifference to human suffering, but this is nowhere near as disgusting as the actual garbage he writes here.

By: Glenn Condell

Glenn Condell — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

The Lobby has it's fangs in the Australian media too, but not nearly as deeply as in the US. So while I can find no coverage in the Sydney Morning Herald of the Nablus raids, they did at least publish Antony Loewenstein's Lobby-critical letter yesterday, and at the head of the queue too.

http://www.smh.com.au/letters/index.html