Comments on: The Klein Effect: Huffpo Accuses Mainstream Jewish Groups of Feting the Bloody Neocons http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 03:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: 5 dancing shlomos http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55448 5 dancing shlomos Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55448 <p>"Let the reckoning begin". yes. and that is why so many jews are speaking small and half and pretzeled truths so late - fear.</p> "Let the reckoning begin". yes. and that is why so many jews are speaking small and half and pretzeled truths so late – fear.

]]> By: Joachim Martillo http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55449 Joachim Martillo Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55449 <p>The same people (American Zionist oligarchs) that fund the organized Jewish community fund the think tanks and media organizations that have hosted Neocons and other members of the Zionist intelligentsia.</p> <p>But keep in mind that the relationship is circular. The Zionist intelligentsia mobilizes and canvasses the Zionist oligarchs, and without this mobilization the OJC simply would not function.</p> <p>For example, the oligarchs fund all sorts of Jewish educational activities from pre-school through post-graduate both because the Zionist intelligentsia needs to train/indoctrinate American Jews as a resource and also because the intelligentsia needs to train and recruit the next generation of the intelligentsia.<br /> </p> The same people (American Zionist oligarchs) that fund the organized Jewish community fund the think tanks and media organizations that have hosted Neocons and other members of the Zionist intelligentsia.

But keep in mind that the relationship is circular. The Zionist intelligentsia mobilizes and canvasses the Zionist oligarchs, and without this mobilization the OJC simply would not function.

For example, the oligarchs fund all sorts of Jewish educational activities from pre-school through post-graduate both because the Zionist intelligentsia needs to train/indoctrinate American Jews as a resource and also because the intelligentsia needs to train and recruit the next generation of the intelligentsia.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55450 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55450 <p>When are we going to apply those political values to the Middle East? </p> <p>The Middle East objectively is a DIFFERENT WORLD than the US.</p> <p>What would you do Phil? 2002 was real.</p> When are we going to apply those political values to the Middle East?

The Middle East objectively is a DIFFERENT WORLD than the US.

What would you do Phil? 2002 was real.

]]> By: the Sword of Gideon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55451 the Sword of Gideon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55451 <p>Joachim, does your wife like to take it up the ass or is she more of the blow job type.</p> Joachim, does your wife like to take it up the ass or is she more of the blow job type.

]]> By: Breasal http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55452 Breasal Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55452 <p>Witty and SOG </p> <p>good cop bad cop</p> <p>same police force</p> <p>By the way Pearlman, everyone knows it's you, aren't you ashamed to talk like that? Or is miscegenation such a crime that shame goes out the window?</p> Witty and SOG

good cop bad cop

same police force

By the way Pearlman, everyone knows it's you, aren't you ashamed to talk like that? Or is miscegenation such a crime that shame goes out the window?

]]> By: Breasal http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55453 Breasal Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55453 <p>Witty and SOG </p> <p>good cop bad cop</p> <p>same police force</p> <p>By the way Pearlman, everyone knows it's you, aren't you ashamed to talk like that? Or is miscegenation such a crime that shame goes out the window?</p> Witty and SOG

good cop bad cop

same police force

By the way Pearlman, everyone knows it's you, aren't you ashamed to talk like that? Or is miscegenation such a crime that shame goes out the window?

]]> By: Doppler http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55454 Doppler Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55454 <p>Klein says neocons are trying to get him fired at Time. Perhaps someone could report on exactly how this plays out. Who calls whom? Because, if a major advertiser calls and says my ad dollars will be cut off if you don't retaliate to marginalize this guy, well, it would be good to know who that is. That way, neocons could patronize that advertiser, and America firsters could maybe vote their dollars elsewhere.</p> <p>Doppler</p> Klein says neocons are trying to get him fired at Time. Perhaps someone could report on exactly how this plays out. Who calls whom? Because, if a major advertiser calls and says my ad dollars will be cut off if you don't retaliate to marginalize this guy, well, it would be good to know who that is. That way, neocons could patronize that advertiser, and America firsters could maybe vote their dollars elsewhere.

Doppler

]]> By: roy belmont http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55455 roy belmont Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55455 <p>Todd's comments http://tiny.cc/AuU4g are the most cogent I've seen anywhere. Calm, reasoned, with obvious restraint. And like the best Americans now, frustrated and disgusted.<br /> (I had an amazingly bizarre series of obstacle getting this to publish)</p> Todd's comments link to tiny.cc
are the most cogent I've seen anywhere. Calm, reasoned, with obvious restraint. And like the best Americans now, frustrated and disgusted.
(I had an amazingly bizarre series of obstacle getting this to publish)

]]> By: grettir http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55456 grettir Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55456 <p>Phil,</p> <p>I think I am your mirror image from the other side: Jewish mate and interest and respect for Jewish mores from childhood. At an individual level "Jewish" has always meant the best to me.</p> <p>And yet one must ask, How is it that the interest and profit of this tiny group must shake the world?</p> <p>In all seriousness, How would the world not better itself by ridding itself of their influence?</p> <p>I do not raise the National Socialist slogans such as "The Jews are our misfortune." But their aptness and the temptation to use them are daily more evident. Shoot out the eye of another Arab child, anyone?</p> <p>Jews must live with this: the organized community tried to bury Spinoza and Mendelssohn, and in their place put goy-hating Maimonides on a pedestal.</p> <p>For all you Heebs, Kikes, Yids, out there, I feel your pain, share the memory of your traditions. Sadly, this is the end of the line, the bus stops here. Geh shoin! You cannot daily davan that the goy should perish and simultaneously wish to be one. Ghetto or freedom, the choice is yours.</p> Phil,

I think I am your mirror image from the other side: Jewish mate and interest and respect for Jewish mores from childhood. At an individual level "Jewish" has always meant the best to me.

And yet one must ask, How is it that the interest and profit of this tiny group must shake the world?

In all seriousness, How would the world not better itself by ridding itself of their influence?

I do not raise the National Socialist slogans such as "The Jews are our misfortune." But their aptness and the temptation to use them are daily more evident. Shoot out the eye of another Arab child, anyone?

Jews must live with this: the organized community tried to bury Spinoza and Mendelssohn, and in their place put goy-hating Maimonides on a pedestal.

For all you Heebs, Kikes, Yids, out there, I feel your pain, share the memory of your traditions. Sadly, this is the end of the line, the bus stops here. Geh shoin! You cannot daily davan that the goy should perish and simultaneously wish to be one. Ghetto or freedom, the choice is yours.

]]> By: Glenn Condell http://mondoweiss.net/2008/07/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html/comment-page-1#comment-55457 Glenn Condell Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/31/the-klein-effect-huffpo-accuses-mainstream-jewish-groups-of-feting-the-bloody-neocons.html#comment-55457 <p>xymphora says:</p> <p>'False-flag self-hating? There is a rather obvious attempt at damage control orchestrated by World Jewry and fronted by Zionist - not to mention, huge Iraq attack cheerleader - Joe Klein. The fear is that the Iraq/Iran war debacle, which is now directly impinging on the privileged lifestyle of the average American, will end up being blamed on the two-faced American Jewish community, and in particular on its Jewish Billionaire 'leaders'. It is thus time to throw Doug Feith and his fellow war criminal co-conspirators under the bus (". . . a small group of Jewish neoconservatives"), and save the larger group so it may continue to scheme for future war crimes. The idea is to put all the blame on a handful of neocons, making sure to emphasize that the real blame still lies with Gentiles Bush and Cheney, increase the credibility of the charge by having the usual suspects like Foxman throw the slur around, and thus limit the damage to a tiny group of 'dual loyalists'.'<br /> </p> xymphora says:

'False-flag self-hating? There is a rather obvious attempt at damage control orchestrated by World Jewry and fronted by Zionist – not to mention, huge Iraq attack cheerleader – Joe Klein. The fear is that the Iraq/Iran war debacle, which is now directly impinging on the privileged lifestyle of the average American, will end up being blamed on the two-faced American Jewish community, and in particular on its Jewish Billionaire 'leaders'. It is thus time to throw Doug Feith and his fellow war criminal co-conspirators under the bus (". . . a small group of Jewish neoconservatives"), and save the larger group so it may continue to scheme for future war crimes. The idea is to put all the blame on a handful of neocons, making sure to emphasize that the real blame still lies with Gentiles Bush and Cheney, increase the credibility of the charge by having the usual suspects like Foxman throw the slur around, and thus limit the damage to a tiny group of 'dual loyalists'.'

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