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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54009</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, I for one love the fact that you are willing to treat this blog as a sort of work in progress for your thoughts. &lt;br /&gt;
You actually change your mind - in PUBLIC!&lt;br /&gt;
I hardly know anyone willing to do that privately.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I for one love the fact that you are willing to treat this blog as a sort of work in progress for your thoughts. <br />
You actually change your mind &#8211; in PUBLIC!<br />
I hardly know anyone willing to do that privately.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54010</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Any points that I made that you do agree with, even to an extent?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess you didn&#039;t get my parallel to speak softly but carry a big stick.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which is speak softly, but ACT benevolently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My criticism of your comments is that you rely solely on political means and nearly solely in opposition.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rather than inspire universalism, you condemn parochialism, and in end up in FACT become parochial (but your tribe is those that criticize Israel or neo-conservatives).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My emphasis is on becoming a better Jew/human (in substance over form), rather than a politically correct one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I criticized your unwillingness to sincerely research and interview others with differing opinions than yourself, and SUMMARIZE what you learn, rather than generalize in the effort to propagate your position.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any points that I made that you do agree with, even to an extent?</p>
<p>I guess you didn&#39;t get my parallel to speak softly but carry a big stick.</p>
<p>Which is speak softly, but ACT benevolently.</p>
<p>My criticism of your comments is that you rely solely on political means and nearly solely in opposition.</p>
<p>Rather than inspire universalism, you condemn parochialism, and in end up in FACT become parochial (but your tribe is those that criticize Israel or neo-conservatives).</p>
<p>My emphasis is on becoming a better Jew/human (in substance over form), rather than a politically correct one.</p>
<p>I criticized your unwillingness to sincerely research and interview others with differing opinions than yourself, and SUMMARIZE what you learn, rather than generalize in the effort to propagate your position.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54011</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also, I never asked in any way for you to self-censor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I asked you to use your tongue and paper and blog for GOOD, and to regard the tone and texture of that as important.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That in the effort to adopt universalism rather than parochialism that you universally respect others sensitivies, rather than use the term &quot;truth&quot; as a means in any way to assault.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I never asked in any way for you to self-censor.</p>
<p>I asked you to use your tongue and paper and blog for GOOD, and to regard the tone and texture of that as important.</p>
<p>That in the effort to adopt universalism rather than parochialism that you universally respect others sensitivies, rather than use the term &quot;truth&quot; as a means in any way to assault.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve F</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54012</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think a pretty good definition of anti-semitism is holding Jews or Jewish organizations to standards that other peoples never get held to - and doing so with a straight face. Israel is far from perfect and MANY of its policies should be criticized.  But I feel there is a tendency here to single out Israel for actions any other rational state would take if it was in the same position as Israel.  You justify some of this by condemning your parochial childhood upbringing.  But all groups in America 50 years ago were parochial - the enlightened among us gotten past that. Hold Israel to the same standards as others - especially its antagonists - and no one can level the accusation of anti-semitism - or your aiding and abetting anti-semitism - but until you do, I&#039;m afraid both charges have some merit. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a pretty good definition of anti-semitism is holding Jews or Jewish organizations to standards that other peoples never get held to &#8211; and doing so with a straight face. Israel is far from perfect and MANY of its policies should be criticized.  But I feel there is a tendency here to single out Israel for actions any other rational state would take if it was in the same position as Israel.  You justify some of this by condemning your parochial childhood upbringing.  But all groups in America 50 years ago were parochial &#8211; the enlightened among us gotten past that. Hold Israel to the same standards as others &#8211; especially its antagonists &#8211; and no one can level the accusation of anti-semitism &#8211; or your aiding and abetting anti-semitism &#8211; but until you do, I&#39;m afraid both charges have some merit. </p>
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		<title>By: Defenestrator</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54013</link>
		<dc:creator>Defenestrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very smart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How can we expect gentiles to not be anti-Jew, when Jews are anti-gentile?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would rational states continue to colonize land in occupied territories, without annexing the land and its citizens and providing citizenship to those?  Maybe in 19th century Ireland, but we aren&#039;t in the 19th century anymore.  Instead, Israel&#039;s actions all seem believing it is the strong victim, rather than the oppressing power.  Until Israel truly wants peace, those not blinded by neo-manifest destiny or religious zealotry will criticize its policies and actions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When was the last time Israel was burned supporting a Palestinian?  They have given no Palestinian the support needed to make change, but rather flourish by giving lip service, tightening checkpoints, authorizing more colonies, and then complaining that the Palestinians are not playing nice.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very smart.</p>
<p>How can we expect gentiles to not be anti-Jew, when Jews are anti-gentile?</p>
<p>Would rational states continue to colonize land in occupied territories, without annexing the land and its citizens and providing citizenship to those?  Maybe in 19th century Ireland, but we aren&#39;t in the 19th century anymore.  Instead, Israel&#39;s actions all seem believing it is the strong victim, rather than the oppressing power.  Until Israel truly wants peace, those not blinded by neo-manifest destiny or religious zealotry will criticize its policies and actions.</p>
<p>When was the last time Israel was burned supporting a Palestinian?  They have given no Palestinian the support needed to make change, but rather flourish by giving lip service, tightening checkpoints, authorizing more colonies, and then complaining that the Palestinians are not playing nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve F</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54014</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To Defenestrator - some in Israel did wish to annex the territories.  They were rightly called crazies.  The majority want a 2-state solution. The Kadima party wants peace - not &quot;manifest destiny or religious zealotry&quot;.  Remember the Camp David and Taba proposals.  That is where we likely will end up. Israelis realize they are oppressors.  Most of them hate this.  They just see a perilous road out.  Some of you haters on this blog should talk to real Israelis rather than the ones you conjure up in your minds.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Defenestrator &#8211; some in Israel did wish to annex the territories.  They were rightly called crazies.  The majority want a 2-state solution. The Kadima party wants peace &#8211; not &quot;manifest destiny or religious zealotry&quot;.  Remember the Camp David and Taba proposals.  That is where we likely will end up. Israelis realize they are oppressors.  Most of them hate this.  They just see a perilous road out.  Some of you haters on this blog should talk to real Israelis rather than the ones you conjure up in your minds.</p>
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		<title>By: charles  Keating</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54015</link>
		<dc:creator>charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who besides Witty thinks Phil has a snowball&#039;s chance in hell of interviewing a leading spokesman for AIPAC or any of the appointed honcho neocons in the past or present Bush2&#039;s regime, or leading right-wing thinktanks? Assume the understanding is that the full unedited interview will be put on primetime TV and spread across all major newspapers on page one. How about Phil getting an interview with Lieberman on the same basis?  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who besides Witty thinks Phil has a snowball&#39;s chance in hell of interviewing a leading spokesman for AIPAC or any of the appointed honcho neocons in the past or present Bush2&#39;s regime, or leading right-wing thinktanks? Assume the understanding is that the full unedited interview will be put on primetime TV and spread across all major newspapers on page one. How about Phil getting an interview with Lieberman on the same basis?  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54016</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil would have to make the effort to do so, in a way that others would regard as fair.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thats not the story now. Who knows if he could restore that in a way that he would agree to?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On &quot;censorship&quot;. It is the same type of curse as calling someone &quot;anti-semitic&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;You are a censorer.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How is that possible? You have a blog. You yourself do the broadcasting. You are the writer, editor, censor of posts if you like.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil would have to make the effort to do so, in a way that others would regard as fair.</p>
<p>Thats not the story now. Who knows if he could restore that in a way that he would agree to?</p>
<p>On &quot;censorship&quot;. It is the same type of curse as calling someone &quot;anti-semitic&quot;. </p>
<p>&quot;You are a censorer.&quot;</p>
<p>How is that possible? You have a blog. You yourself do the broadcasting. You are the writer, editor, censor of posts if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54017</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;...But I feel there is a tendency here to single out Israel for actions any other rational state would take if it was in the same position as Israel.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surely even a cursory glance outside the MSM at the apparent connections between Israel, AIPAC, the neocons and the push for war with Iran is enough to justify this tendency?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;But I feel there is a tendency here to single out Israel for actions any other rational state would take if it was in the same position as Israel.&quot;</p>
<p>Surely even a cursory glance outside the MSM at the apparent connections between Israel, AIPAC, the neocons and the push for war with Iran is enough to justify this tendency?</p>
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		<title>By: samuel burke</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/anti-anti-semitism.html/comment-page-1#comment-54018</link>
		<dc:creator>samuel burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;we in american just want to be better americans, and whats missing from the narrative sold to the american jews by their zionist propagandist masters is that there can be no separation between being a good american and being a good jew.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;israel is the dividing line.&lt;br /&gt;
our interests do not converge, and the past is full of evidence of israeli actions that if it were any other country would be considered treasonous or acts of open war under the cover of having been done by another nation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;you poor poor american zionist jews just cant seem to understand this, you always go to the big boogyman in your closet, antisemitism to justify your positions vis a vis israel whenever anyone criticizes israel or zionism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;jewsagainstzionism.com chronicles this conjoining of judaism and zionism from its inception, and predicted the harm that it wold do to your people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;zionism has so conjoined the state with judaism that you do not allow yourself the ability to criticize it for fear that you are being a self hating jew or some such crazy newspeak created by the zionist project.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what i find most valuable in Phils blog is his transparency in trying to be an american citizen devoid of the self imposed controls that your community wishes to impose on your people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;liberate yourself Phil and try to liberate as many of your fellow brothers from the scourge known as zio judaism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;zionism and judaism can be mutually exclusive for the betterment of both.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we in american just want to be better americans, and whats missing from the narrative sold to the american jews by their zionist propagandist masters is that there can be no separation between being a good american and being a good jew.</p>
<p>israel is the dividing line.<br />
our interests do not converge, and the past is full of evidence of israeli actions that if it were any other country would be considered treasonous or acts of open war under the cover of having been done by another nation.</p>
<p>you poor poor american zionist jews just cant seem to understand this, you always go to the big boogyman in your closet, antisemitism to justify your positions vis a vis israel whenever anyone criticizes israel or zionism.</p>
<p>jewsagainstzionism.com chronicles this conjoining of judaism and zionism from its inception, and predicted the harm that it wold do to your people.</p>
<p>zionism has so conjoined the state with judaism that you do not allow yourself the ability to criticize it for fear that you are being a self hating jew or some such crazy newspeak created by the zionist project.</p>
<p>what i find most valuable in Phils blog is his transparency in trying to be an american citizen devoid of the self imposed controls that your community wishes to impose on your people.</p>
<p>liberate yourself Phil and try to liberate as many of your fellow brothers from the scourge known as zio judaism.</p>
<p>zionism and judaism can be mutually exclusive for the betterment of both.</p>
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