Comments on: Giant Jews Jumpin for Joe http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 03:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html/comment-page-1#comment-53564 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/26/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html#comment-53564 <p>Phil,<br /> I can't tell if you take heart that AIPAC and other organizations like both Obama and Biden (and McCain), or that you wish that Obama won through sticking it to AIPAC.</p> <p>I prefer a responsive organization to changing objective conditions.</p> <p>My sense is that the majority of Jews that I know would strongly prefer a confident (for Israel) humane, intelligent, and competent American administration, to a dogmatic, strictly strategic, idiotic and incompetent one like the one we have now.</p> <p>McCain promises slivers of competence, with regions of incompetence. </p> <p>In contrast Obama/Biden promises humanity, intelligence, creativity, diplomacy, competence.</p> Phil,
I can't tell if you take heart that AIPAC and other organizations like both Obama and Biden (and McCain), or that you wish that Obama won through sticking it to AIPAC.

I prefer a responsive organization to changing objective conditions.

My sense is that the majority of Jews that I know would strongly prefer a confident (for Israel) humane, intelligent, and competent American administration, to a dogmatic, strictly strategic, idiotic and incompetent one like the one we have now.

McCain promises slivers of competence, with regions of incompetence.

In contrast Obama/Biden promises humanity, intelligence, creativity, diplomacy, competence.

]]> By: 5 dancing shlomos http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html/comment-page-1#comment-53565 5 dancing shlomos Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/26/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html#comment-53565 <p> surprised joe the six-pack slug never served in(he served but not in uniform) the j,000,000ish terrorist force.</p> <p>following is a selection from mahmoud darwish. darwish is a reminder why j,000,000ry hate all others. j,000,000ish contributions to culture are mediocre to garbage to degrading to destructive. those who have made great contributions and are claimed by j,000,000ry left the group(cant say religion. it aint. maybe suffering no matter how fake is a religion?) and become human.</p> <p>slugs, warts like biden and cheney have left the human race and become j,000,000s.</p> surprised joe the six-pack slug never served in(he served but not in uniform) the j,000,000ish terrorist force.

following is a selection from mahmoud darwish. darwish is a reminder why j,000,000ry hate all others. j,000,000ish contributions to culture are mediocre to garbage to degrading to destructive. those who have made great contributions and are claimed by j,000,000ry left the group(cant say religion. it aint. maybe suffering no matter how fake is a religion?) and become human.

slugs, warts like biden and cheney have left the human race and become j,000,000s.

]]> By: 5 dancing shlomos http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html/comment-page-1#comment-53566 5 dancing shlomos Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/26/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html#comment-53566 <p>O those who pass between fleeting words<br /> carry your names, and be gone <br /> Rid our time of your hours, and be gone <br /> Steal what you will from the blueness of the sea <br /> And the sand of memory <br /> Take what pictures you will, so that you understand <br /> That which you never will: <br /> How a stone from our land builds the ceiling of our sky</p> <p>From you steel and fire, from us our flesh <br /> From you yet another tank, from us stones<br /> From you teargas, from us rain...</p> <p>It is time for you to be gone <br /> Live wherever you like, but do not live among us <br /> It is time for you to be gone <br /> Die wherever you like, but do not die among us<br /> For we have work to do in our land</p> <p>So leave our country <br /> Our land, our sea <br /> Our wheat, our salt, our wounds <br /> Everything, and leave <br /> The memories of memory <br /> those who pass between fleeting words!</p> <p><br /> -- Mahmoud Darwish, Those who pass between fleeting words, 1988. </p> O those who pass between fleeting words
carry your names, and be gone
Rid our time of your hours, and be gone
Steal what you will from the blueness of the sea
And the sand of memory
Take what pictures you will, so that you understand
That which you never will:
How a stone from our land builds the ceiling of our sky

From you steel and fire, from us our flesh
From you yet another tank, from us stones
From you teargas, from us rain…

It is time for you to be gone
Live wherever you like, but do not live among us
It is time for you to be gone
Die wherever you like, but do not die among us
For we have work to do in our land

So leave our country
Our land, our sea
Our wheat, our salt, our wounds
Everything, and leave
The memories of memory
those who pass between fleeting words!

– Mahmoud Darwish, Those who pass between fleeting words, 1988.

]]> By: 5ds http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html/comment-page-1#comment-53567 5ds Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/26/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html#comment-53567 <p>the poem above posted at lawrence of cyberia</p> the poem above posted at lawrence of cyberia

]]> By: 5ds http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html/comment-page-1#comment-53568 5ds Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/26/giant-jews-jumpin-for-joe.html#comment-53568 <p>s/b "the worship of suffering no matter how fake" (and forcing others to accept this "religion"</p> s/b "the worship of suffering no matter how fake" (and forcing others to accept this "religion"

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