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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;August 22nd, 2008 &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Border police escalated the violence in Ni’lin, beating one resident nearly to death on Thursday. Occupation forces went on to seal the village on Friday in an attempt to isolate the local struggle *against the Wall*. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On Thursday, the people of Ni’lin gathered in the middle of the village for a demonstration against the Apartheid Wall. Confrontations flared up between local youth and Occupation forces, who fired on demonstrators with tear and sound bombs in addition to metal-coated rubber bullets. Clashes continued in the streets of Ni’lin, with soldiers targeting homes and residents.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Border police also brutalized a local resident, Haythem ‘Elayan Musa, while he was attempting to visit his grandmother. He was surrounded outside her home and severely beaten, with the attackers aiming blows at his head. Leaving the scene, a border policeman fired a single &quot;rubber&quot; bullet from close range at the semi-conscious Musa, striking him in the head.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>August 22nd, 2008 </p>
<p>Border police escalated the violence in Ni’lin, beating one resident nearly to death on Thursday. Occupation forces went on to seal the village on Friday in an attempt to isolate the local struggle *against the Wall*. </p>
<p>On Thursday, the people of Ni’lin gathered in the middle of the village for a demonstration against the Apartheid Wall. Confrontations flared up between local youth and Occupation forces, who fired on demonstrators with tear and sound bombs in addition to metal-coated rubber bullets. Clashes continued in the streets of Ni’lin, with soldiers targeting homes and residents.</p>
<p>Border police also brutalized a local resident, Haythem ‘Elayan Musa, while he was attempting to visit his grandmother. He was surrounded outside her home and severely beaten, with the attackers aiming blows at his head. Leaving the scene, a border policeman fired a single &quot;rubber&quot; bullet from close range at the semi-conscious Musa, striking him in the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can&#039;t have final borders until there is a potentially viable Palestinian state.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe with imminent closure, Hamas would actually accept the PA governmental authority, maybe not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they didn&#039;t reconcile and accept Israeli existence and regard PA agreements with Israel as binding, an imposed solution is murder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is true. No matter how ethically uncomfortable we are with the continued status of statelessness for the Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza, there has to be a path to move on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There certainly are things that Israel can do, and should do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, your and the world&#039;s impatience is not the order of the day, as appealing as it sounds.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#39;t have final borders until there is a potentially viable Palestinian state.</p>
<p>Maybe with imminent closure, Hamas would actually accept the PA governmental authority, maybe not.</p>
<p>If they didn&#39;t reconcile and accept Israeli existence and regard PA agreements with Israel as binding, an imposed solution is murder.</p>
<p>It is true. No matter how ethically uncomfortable we are with the continued status of statelessness for the Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza, there has to be a path to move on.</p>
<p>There certainly are things that Israel can do, and should do.</p>
<p>But, your and the world&#39;s impatience is not the order of the day, as appealing as it sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the murdering people of walls.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hello walls,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;we love walls. long walls, high walls, blocking walls,&#039;settlement&#039;(squatment) walls, leftwing and rightwing walls, land and resources grabbing walls, killing walls. our favorite wall is the wall that talks to god - sends our instructions to god.  we love this natural wall, the julan. we will keep it forever because greed gave it to us. talk is... talk, talk, talk. gives us time to prepare for war, to kill more palestinians. keep talking. deceiving talk/ peace talkers are another wall - our secret wall.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the murdering people of walls.</p>
<p>hello walls,</p>
<p>we love walls. long walls, high walls, blocking walls,&#39;settlement&#39;(squatment) walls, leftwing and rightwing walls, land and resources grabbing walls, killing walls. our favorite wall is the wall that talks to god &#8211; sends our instructions to god.  we love this natural wall, the julan. we will keep it forever because greed gave it to us. talk is&#8230; talk, talk, talk. gives us time to prepare for war, to kill more palestinians. keep talking. deceiving talk/ peace talkers are another wall &#8211; our secret wall.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 dancing shlomos</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 dancing shlomos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;snippet from israel adam shamir:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Avnery wrote a piece warning the Palestinians: don’t you dream of living with Jews in one state, because the Jews would rather expel or exterminate you. An Indian-style reservation is as good as you may ever hope to get from us. Our friend John Spritzler wrote a strong reply http://spritzlerj. blogspot. com/ to Avnery, saying: “This is no different from a Mafia thug giving &quot;friendly advice&quot; to a shop owner, warning what the consequences will be for failure to pay the Mafia&#039;s &quot;protection&quot; fee. Here we see Avnery the Zionist dropping his facade of &quot;kindly friend of the Palestinians&quot; and making it perfectly clear where he stands: challenge the Zionist project of an exclusively Jewish sovereignty in most of Palestine , and we will all unite as a &quot;fascist right wing&quot; to drive you out of Palestine.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;all &quot;good&quot; lefty zionists(a zionist is a zionist is a squat) leave and take your toxic wastes, shutup, drop dead, return to your home - hell. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snippet from israel adam shamir:</p>
<p>Avnery wrote a piece warning the Palestinians: don’t you dream of living with Jews in one state, because the Jews would rather expel or exterminate you. An Indian-style reservation is as good as you may ever hope to get from us. Our friend John Spritzler wrote a strong reply <a href="http://spritzlerj.">link to </a><br /> blogspot. com/ to Avnery, saying: “This is no different from a Mafia thug giving &quot;friendly advice&quot; to a shop owner, warning what the consequences will be for failure to pay the Mafia&#39;s &quot;protection&quot; fee. Here we see Avnery the Zionist dropping his facade of &quot;kindly friend of the Palestinians&quot; and making it perfectly clear where he stands: challenge the Zionist project of an exclusively Jewish sovereignty in most of Palestine , and we will all unite as a &quot;fascist right wing&quot; to drive you out of Palestine.&quot; </p>
<p>all &quot;good&quot; lefty zionists(a zionist is a zionist is a squat) leave and take your toxic wastes, shutup, drop dead, return to your home &#8211; hell. </p>
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		<title>By: Denis Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This morning I had a revelation of a sort -- ur, not from an angel; but from my own thimble brain -- about why Jews are behaving so horribly in the occupied territories.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As a devout Catholic I had to assume that Israel finally getting back together has something to do with Divine Providence -- so why were the &quot;chosen people&quot; coming on like &quot;Israel, Israel, Uber Alles?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I finally figured out that God is allowing Israelis to commit every terrible sin so that they will be humbled -- once they come to their senses and see what they have done, mostly to the Palestinians -- so they will realize that being the chosen people doesn&#039;t make them such big shots as He brings them back together physically.  God is big on humility -- especially with anyone who hangs around close to him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I may drone on a little further on the same theme: Saint Augustine, the greatest Catholic thinker had an actual angel type revelation before his end leading him to feel that all he had written was so much straw (his words).  Why did God reveal such to him and not the rest of us?  Because we did not need to know it but he needed it to keep his &quot;greatest thinker&quot; self humble.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do we have to protect Israel?  Because 1/3 of Israelis (like 2/3 of all Jews) are American citizens (I assume those making Aliya don&#039;t give up their American citizenship -- bad strategic mistake) and, if Israel were to over overwhelmed by the Arabs, the US Marines would have to go in there and evacuate almost half the country (most all would be claiming to be Americans) to bring back here.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which reminds me of a joke -- supposedly a real suggestion: my brother Kevin says we should give the Palestinians the burned out areas of the Bronx -- as former Jewish land.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I had a revelation of a sort &#8212; ur, not from an angel; but from my own thimble brain &#8212; about why Jews are behaving so horribly in the occupied territories.</p>
<p>As a devout Catholic I had to assume that Israel finally getting back together has something to do with Divine Providence &#8212; so why were the &quot;chosen people&quot; coming on like &quot;Israel, Israel, Uber Alles?&quot;</p>
<p>I finally figured out that God is allowing Israelis to commit every terrible sin so that they will be humbled &#8212; once they come to their senses and see what they have done, mostly to the Palestinians &#8212; so they will realize that being the chosen people doesn&#39;t make them such big shots as He brings them back together physically.  God is big on humility &#8212; especially with anyone who hangs around close to him.</p>
<p>If I may drone on a little further on the same theme: Saint Augustine, the greatest Catholic thinker had an actual angel type revelation before his end leading him to feel that all he had written was so much straw (his words).  Why did God reveal such to him and not the rest of us?  Because we did not need to know it but he needed it to keep his &quot;greatest thinker&quot; self humble.<br />
**********************<br />
Why do we have to protect Israel?  Because 1/3 of Israelis (like 2/3 of all Jews) are American citizens (I assume those making Aliya don&#39;t give up their American citizenship &#8212; bad strategic mistake) and, if Israel were to over overwhelmed by the Arabs, the US Marines would have to go in there and evacuate almost half the country (most all would be claiming to be Americans) to bring back here.<br />
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Which reminds me of a joke &#8212; supposedly a real suggestion: my brother Kevin says we should give the Palestinians the burned out areas of the Bronx &#8212; as former Jewish land.</p>
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		<title>By: 5ds</title>
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		<dc:creator>5ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this longer selection from spritzler taken from joachim martillo&#039;s site. also there is a critique of spritzler:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sunday, August 24, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
Uri Avnery&#039;s Despicable &quot;Devil&#039;s Hoof&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
by John Spritzler&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In his &quot;The Devil&#039;s Hoof&quot; Uri Avnery writes as if he were giving friendly advice to Palestinians. But his real message is a despicable threat: If you frame your struggle not as one for a separate Palestinian state but rather for full equality with Jews in a single state for all of Palestine, then we--the Jews of Israel--will ethnically cleanse you from all of Palestine. Using his &quot;friendly advice&quot; writing style, Avnery warns:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;There is no chance at all that the Jewish public will agree, in this generation or the next, to live as a minority in a state dominated by an Arab majority. 99.99% of the Jewish population will fight against this tooth and nail. The demography will not stop haunting them, but on the contrary, it will push them to do things which are unthinkable today. Ethnic cleansing will become a practical agenda. Even moderate Israelis will be driven into the arms of the fascist right-wing. All means of oppression will become acceptable when the Jewish majority adopts the aim of causing the Arabs to leave the country before they have a chance of becoming the majority.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
This is no different from a Mafia thug giving &quot;friendly advice&quot; to a shop owner, warning what the consequences will be for failure to pay the Mafia&#039;s &quot;protection&quot; fee. Here we see Avnery the Zionist dropping his facade of &quot;kindly friend of the Palestinians&quot; and making it perfectly clear where he stands: challenge the Zionist project of an exclusively Jewish sovereignty in most of Palestine, and we will all unite as a &quot;fascist right wing&quot; to drive you out of Palestine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s look closely at what Avnery and a Mafia thug have in common. The Mafia thug does not want the recipient of his &quot;advice&quot; to know how the Mafia can be defeated, and he does not support the efforts of people to do so. Likewise, Avnery does not want Palestinians to know how Zionism can be defeated, and he does not support the efforts of people to do so.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this longer selection from spritzler taken from joachim martillo&#39;s site. also there is a critique of spritzler:</p>
<p>Sunday, August 24, 2008<br />
Uri Avnery&#39;s Despicable &quot;Devil&#39;s Hoof&quot; <br />
by John Spritzler</p>
<p>In his &quot;The Devil&#39;s Hoof&quot; Uri Avnery writes as if he were giving friendly advice to Palestinians. But his real message is a despicable threat: If you frame your struggle not as one for a separate Palestinian state but rather for full equality with Jews in a single state for all of Palestine, then we&#8211;the Jews of Israel&#8211;will ethnically cleanse you from all of Palestine. Using his &quot;friendly advice&quot; writing style, Avnery warns:</p>
<p>&quot;There is no chance at all that the Jewish public will agree, in this generation or the next, to live as a minority in a state dominated by an Arab majority. 99.99% of the Jewish population will fight against this tooth and nail. The demography will not stop haunting them, but on the contrary, it will push them to do things which are unthinkable today. Ethnic cleansing will become a practical agenda. Even moderate Israelis will be driven into the arms of the fascist right-wing. All means of oppression will become acceptable when the Jewish majority adopts the aim of causing the Arabs to leave the country before they have a chance of becoming the majority.&quot;<br />
This is no different from a Mafia thug giving &quot;friendly advice&quot; to a shop owner, warning what the consequences will be for failure to pay the Mafia&#39;s &quot;protection&quot; fee. Here we see Avnery the Zionist dropping his facade of &quot;kindly friend of the Palestinians&quot; and making it perfectly clear where he stands: challenge the Zionist project of an exclusively Jewish sovereignty in most of Palestine, and we will all unite as a &quot;fascist right wing&quot; to drive you out of Palestine.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s look closely at what Avnery and a Mafia thug have in common. The Mafia thug does not want the recipient of his &quot;advice&quot; to know how the Mafia can be defeated, and he does not support the efforts of people to do so. Likewise, Avnery does not want Palestinians to know how Zionism can be defeated, and he does not support the efforts of people to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: David Frum</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Frum</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good luck with that plan.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Every breath of the ultra-Zionist Likud/Shas faction over the last few decades has been to obliterate any hope for the 1967 borders.  Any Israeli government that voiced support for such a plan would be brought down by votes or by scandal in days.  Any American president who didn&#039;t exercise a veto over that plan at the UN Security Council would face a similar but different fate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That plan is one that brings actual justice to the situation.  Zionist Expansionism and the Israel Lobby are by definition opposed to justice in this situation.  Invaders do not retreat of their own volition.  Israel is still rules by the Invaders, and the US is still beholden to the Invader sympathizers.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with that plan.  </p>
<p>Every breath of the ultra-Zionist Likud/Shas faction over the last few decades has been to obliterate any hope for the 1967 borders.  Any Israeli government that voiced support for such a plan would be brought down by votes or by scandal in days.  Any American president who didn&#39;t exercise a veto over that plan at the UN Security Council would face a similar but different fate.</p>
<p>That plan is one that brings actual justice to the situation.  Zionist Expansionism and the Israel Lobby are by definition opposed to justice in this situation.  Invaders do not retreat of their own volition.  Israel is still rules by the Invaders, and the US is still beholden to the Invader sympathizers.</p>
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		<title>By: RonL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonL</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why should the US impose our will on Israel here, so long as we continue to occupy land we stole from the indigenous neolothic peoples, and Mexico?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love America. So why are so called conservatives supporting claims of occupations, which can and are made in spades about us?  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should the US impose our will on Israel here, so long as we continue to occupy land we stole from the indigenous neolothic peoples, and Mexico?</p>
<p>I love America. So why are so called conservatives supporting claims of occupations, which can and are made in spades about us?  </p>
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		<title>By: David Frum</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Frum</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Ron, I&#039;d be happy to let Israel deal with it themselves, if they gave back all the money, tech, and weapons we mistakenly donated to them, and agreed to no more security help.  Could you look into setting that up for us?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On second thought, just hand it all to the Palestinians.  They really need it what with being occupied and in a state of genocide.  Surely you would have no objections?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, your simple rhetorical attempt to quench any effort by the US to bring about justice through a false use of hypocrisy didn&#039;t work like it normally does?  I suggest you scratch that particular line of propaganda off your list.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But thank you for completely proving my point, that anything and everything will be said by ultra-Zionists to stop any kind of resolution based on actual justice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ps.  I imagine you&#039;re quite happy with the US taking out Iraq and Iran.  Where&#039;s your accusations of hypocrisy there?  We&#039;re all waiting.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ron, I&#39;d be happy to let Israel deal with it themselves, if they gave back all the money, tech, and weapons we mistakenly donated to them, and agreed to no more security help.  Could you look into setting that up for us?</p>
<p>On second thought, just hand it all to the Palestinians.  They really need it what with being occupied and in a state of genocide.  Surely you would have no objections?</p>
<p>Oh, your simple rhetorical attempt to quench any effort by the US to bring about justice through a false use of hypocrisy didn&#39;t work like it normally does?  I suggest you scratch that particular line of propaganda off your list.</p>
<p>But thank you for completely proving my point, that anything and everything will be said by ultra-Zionists to stop any kind of resolution based on actual justice.</p>
<p>ps.  I imagine you&#39;re quite happy with the US taking out Iraq and Iran.  Where&#39;s your accusations of hypocrisy there?  We&#39;re all waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Condell</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;You can&#039;t have final borders until there is a potentially viable Palestinian state.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s just keep kicking that can down the road for a few more decades, eh Richard? You ought to have the Litani by then, if not the whole Eretz enchilada. The PA are corrupt Israeli lapdogs - everyone seems to know this except you and the US MSM. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hamas won the election and weren&#039;t allowed by Israel and the Big Dog it wags to form a gov&#039;t. The prospect of a Palestinian state can ever appear viable while Israel can prevent it at will. You are not interested in taking the USraeli foot off the Palestinian throat so that something viable can be arranged - nosiree. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can see why you might feel that way, being   an Israeli of the mind (or heart or soul - anything but actually living there) but ferchrissakes don&#039;t expect us to swallow that &#039;sadly, we have no peace partner&#039; bullshit.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;You can&#39;t have final borders until there is a potentially viable Palestinian state.&#39;</p>
<p>Let&#39;s just keep kicking that can down the road for a few more decades, eh Richard? You ought to have the Litani by then, if not the whole Eretz enchilada. The PA are corrupt Israeli lapdogs &#8211; everyone seems to know this except you and the US MSM. </p>
<p>Hamas won the election and weren&#39;t allowed by Israel and the Big Dog it wags to form a gov&#39;t. The prospect of a Palestinian state can ever appear viable while Israel can prevent it at will. You are not interested in taking the USraeli foot off the Palestinian throat so that something viable can be arranged &#8211; nosiree. </p>
<p>I can see why you might feel that way, being   an Israeli of the mind (or heart or soul &#8211; anything but actually living there) but ferchrissakes don&#39;t expect us to swallow that &#39;sadly, we have no peace partner&#39; bullshit.</p>
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