In the last five minutes, literally, I've been directed to two websites run by American Jews who like me have stopped drinking the kool-aid on Israel.
Here is Steven Lendman, a retired Chicago businessman. He's 74, dedicated, handsome. Has a brilliant report on Gaza:
Here's a brief snapshot of Gaza. It measures 360 square kilometers in
area or about half the size of Chicago for its 1.5 million residents -
in the world's largest and most congested open-air prison. Over 40% of
them live in eight densely overcrowded refugee camps, and in the best
of times, their conditions are inadequate, adverse and sometimes grim.
Under siege, they're intolerable.
International law (including the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention) obligates occupying powers to protect civilian populations…
And here's Roger Tucker. He lives in North Carolina and says a one-state solution is the only feasible solution. Has a beautiful idea for a flag. Just imagine an Israeli-Palestinian Olympic team, and how much support American Jews would give them, and how beautiful it would be to have moral legitimacy again in the international community! I do believe Jewish opinion is changing in a granular way. The tide is ours.
Lendman's blog details precisely how and why Israel is a true rogue state under international law principles and criteria.
Tucker's blog explains how he finally grew away from the usual propaganda by and about Israel, and he focuses on a bi-national state solution. As of today if he doesn't get funding help he will no longer be able to afford writing new stuff for his blog. He lives on very little.
You've got to be kidding. A half assed buddhist in NC and a guy in Chicago who writes the most turgid bullshit essays this side of Karl Marx. Hell, Keatings wife is more Jewish than these two guys and she sleeps with a fucking neo-nazi.
First, I'd like to thank Philip for his mention of me and my site, link to
And my gratitude to Mr. Keating for his comment and his kind email. And, last but not least, to "Sword of Gideon" who reminds us why it is so important to fight Zionism and "the Jewish State." In other times, such seriously disturbed people would have been locked up in institutions for the mentally ill – or, if they were Germans during the Third Reich, they'd be goose stepping and heil hitlering while assaulting people who just happened to be Jewish. And, now, they effectively run the show.
They definitely effectively run the show. Their imperitive is to stifle all free thought or exchange of views.Dirty tricks abound that no no limit.Debasing human nature and the soul is the only currency.And they masquerade as pious!All at a time that could be humanity's 11th hour.Faked suicides, and stitched up prisoners. And so much of the truths are common knowledge (thanks to the internet).There is simply no reasoning. Yet they are dragging everone to the gutter.
Not feeling the love guys. Pretty bellicose for a Budhhist though, interesting. Perhaps your not what, meditating properly Roger.
I am trying to find on Tucker's site where he explains how he grew away from the propaganda. Can anyone help here?
I am trying to find on Tucker's site where he explains how he grew away from the propaganda. Can anyone help here?
I am trying to find on Tucker's site where he explains how he grew away from the propaganda. Can anyone help here?
SOG,
You could use a little meditation AND medication to stall your settler mentality.
I just love the concept of some sort of half assed buddhist who was supposedly born Jewish sitting in North Carolina taking the side of those jolly lads from Hamas and Hezbollah, You couldn't make that one up if you tried.
This is from Noah Feldman. I am pretty sure this is the kind of attitude that Jews know is stashed in their collective psyche. No wonder there might be paranoia about anti-semitism. Again apologies, I know that those who are leaving it behind are choosing to belong to the human race. Thank you to those.
"One time at Maimonides a local physician — a well-known figure in the
community who later died tragically young — addressed a school
assembly on the topic of the challenges that a modern Orthodox
professional may face. The doctor addressed the Talmudic dictum that
the saving of a life trumps the Sabbath. He explained that in its
purest form, this principle applies only to the life of a Jew. The
rabbis of the Talmud, however, were unprepared to allow the life of a
non-Jew to be extinguished because of the no-work commandment, and so
they ruled that the Sabbath could be violated to save the life of a
non-Jew out of concern for maintaining peaceful relations between the
Jewish and non-Jewish communities.
Depending on how you look at it, this ruling is either an example of
outrageously particularist religious thinking, because in principle it
values Jewish life more than non-Jewish life, or an instance of
laudable universalism, because in practice it treats all lives
equally. The physician quite reasonably opted for the latter
explanation. And he added that he himself would never distinguish
Jewish from non-Jewish patients: a human being was a human being.
This appealing sentiment did not go unchallenged. One of my teachers
rose to suggest that the doctor's attitude was putting him in danger
of violating the Torah. The teacher reported that he had himself heard
from his own rabbi, a leading modern-Orthodox Talmudist associated
with Yeshiva University, that in violating the Sabbath to treat a
non-Jew, intention was absolutely crucial. If you intended to save the
patient's life so as to facilitate good relations between Jews and
non-Jews, your actions were permissible. But if, to the contrary, you
intended to save the patient out of universal morality, then you were
in fact guilty of violating the Sabbath, because the motive for acting
was not the motive on the basis of which the rabbis allowed the
Sabbath violation to occur.
Later, in class, the teacher apologized to us students for what he
said to the doctor. His comments, he said, were inappropriate — not
because they were wrongheaded, but because non-Jews were present in
the audience when he made them. The double standard of Jews and
non-Jews, in other words, was for him truly irreducible: it was not
just about noting that only Jewish lives merited violation of the
Sabbath, but also about keeping the secret of why non-Jewish lives
might be saved. To accept this version of the tradition would be to
accept that the modern Orthodox project of engagement with the world
could not proceed in good faith."
The one-state solution is currently a malicious fantasy.
As appealing as it may be in idea, in practise it likely results in civil war.
That anyone can advocate for that, in the name of opposing violence, is beyond me.
It is not even more democratic, as the cultures are largely separate and to impose majority rule onto a LARGE minority is far less democratic than partition.
This is in response to peters' query. See link to one-state.net
"The one-state solution is currently a malicious fantasy.
As appealing as it may be in idea, in practise it likely results in civil war."
The civil war in the west bank has already started. We just don't think of it as a civil war because one side use tanks and F-16s and the other side uses stones and dynamite.
Thanks for the links to these two websites. While Mr. Tucker has a lot of good links to articles, etc., he should be careful, if he really cares about Palestine, about including works from Israel Shamir. None other than Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada fame exposed the fraud and anti-semitism of this huckster. Also, I was shocked to see on Mr. Lendman's blog roll the overtly anti-semitic Ziopedia. As a self-proclaimed progressive, how the hell can he include that racist, crackpot dreck that belongs more on an Aryan Nations website? Honestly, the Palestinians do NOT need friends like this, and only gives ammunition to the Zionist establishment (left and right) to dismiss principled anti-Zionist Jews and non-Jews, and equate them with anti-semites.
Thanks for the links to these two websites. While Mr. Tucker has a lot of good links to articles, etc., he should be careful, if he really cares about Palestine, about including works from Israel Shamir. None other than Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada fame exposed the fraud and anti-semitism of this huckster. Also, I was shocked to see on Mr. Lendman's blog roll the overtly anti-semitic Ziopedia. As a self-proclaimed progressive, how the hell can he include that racist, crackpot dreck that belongs more on an Aryan Nations website? Honestly, the Palestinians do NOT need friends like this, and only gives ammunition to the Zionist establishment (left and right) to dismiss principled anti-Zionist Jews and non-Jews, and equate them with anti-semites.
I am delighted to announce that the first of three necessary phases to the achievement of a one democratic state solution may be happening on its own.
See link to thenational.ae
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The proposed strategy can be viewed at link to countercurrents.org
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The One State solution is not the answer.
The Palestines would be treated no better than they are now and just like the blacks used to be treated in America.
To make Israel democratic and bearable to non Jewish citizens you would have to end zionism and the whole concept of a Jewish State which means Israel, formerly Palestine, would have to turn into something else.
Israel is a racist, cultist, tribal state exactly like, in mentality and actions, the Islamic radicals we call terrorist.
Nope, it won't work. There must be two seperate states.
The two-state solution of a healthy Israel as neighbor to a healthy Palestine is the most practical and the most just outcome.
Roger is here propagating.
Its too bad that he doesn't address the questions that I've raised.
Its a state of denial to run on idealism solely, or expansionism.
Both dogmas, both having some basis to call themselves good, but not seeking good in fact, more in idea.
Further,
Like Saif earlier, he is presenting solely a political solution (as if structure changes consciousness), when social solutions of peaceful interaction are the important areas of work.
In my experience, knowing Israelis that had genuine Palestinian and Bedouin friends prior to the 87 intifada, but could no longer after, it is a string of ironies (and malevolence) that led to the current situation.
Not if the structure is an especially bony head. Some bone is more pourous than other.
The one-state solution is the inevitable outcome from the failure of the two-state solution. If just stands to reason. There will be no Palestinian state, but there will be a Palestinian people being ruled by the Israelis. Since the transfer or genocide option is off the table, then it is one people on one land. To not recognize this and to not recognize the fraud of the "peace process" towards a two-state solution is to relegate the Palestinians into perpetually oppressed status.
The Palestinians should immediately drop their demand for two states. They then should begin to demand civil liberties and equality with the Jews. Restoration of their property (at least in the West Bank), restoration of their water rights and the right to vote. Demand that foreign governments stop giving money to the PA. This latter structure is simply a cover for Israeli oppression of the Arabs.
It will not be an easy struggle, but it one that the Palestinians would eventually win. What country on earth would not accept the rightiousness of such a political struggle? If non-violence could be taught to the Palestinians then so much the better, but as we saw with the ANC that is not necessary.